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Old 04-22-2006, 06:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4 or 6 ???

I am in the process of acquiring a 2002 or 3 toyota tacoma and would like to
ask those who have experience whether they would recomend a 4 or 6 cylinder
for use for camping travel on backroads and which transmision to consider
and why .

The truck would not be used to haul other than camping gear to locations
requiring 4 wheel drive and of modest grade .

Piror to test driving ( for which there is no substitute ) I would like to
hear from owners as to there satisfaction and knowledge of pros and cons .

regards ,
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Old 04-22-2006, 08:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

If you get the 6, you can choose between the manual or automatic trans, the
4 only comes with the automatic. For my money, I'd prefer the 6 with the
manual trans.




"Norman Dowds" <dowds3926@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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>I am in the process of acquiring a 2002 or 3 toyota tacoma and would like
>to
> ask those who have experience whether they would recomend a 4 or 6
> cylinder
> for use for camping travel on backroads and which transmision to consider
> and why .
>
> The truck would not be used to haul other than camping gear to locations
> requiring 4 wheel drive and of modest grade .
>
> Piror to test driving ( for which there is no substitute ) I would like to
> hear from owners as to there satisfaction and knowledge of pros and cons .
>
> regards ,
> n
>
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Old 04-22-2006, 08:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

I prefer the 6

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Old 04-22-2006, 09:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???


"Norman Dowds" <dowds3926@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:GYx2g.60423$P01.34618@pd7tw3no...[color=blue]
>I am in the process of acquiring a 2002 or 3 toyota tacoma and would like
>to
> ask those who have experience whether they would recomend a 4 or 6
> cylinder
> for use for camping travel on backroads and which transmision to consider
> and why .
>
> The truck would not be used to haul other than camping gear to locations
> requiring 4 wheel drive and of modest grade .
>
> Piror to test driving ( for which there is no substitute ) I would like to
> hear from owners as to there satisfaction and knowledge of pros and cons .
>
> regards ,
> n
>
>[/color]


4 cylinder only with a manual. 6 cylinder with either.


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Old 04-24-2006, 07:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

I have an 03 4cyl with manual. If you are concerned about gas, get the 4. I
haul a 450lb snowmobile in my truck with a 75lb ramp through snow with no
problems.

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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If you get the 6, you can choose between the manual or automatic trans,[/color]
the[color=blue]
> 4 only comes with the automatic. For my money, I'd prefer the 6 with the
> manual trans.
>
>
>
>
> "Norman Dowds" <dowds3926@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:GYx2g.60423$P01.34618@pd7tw3no...[color=green]
> >I am in the process of acquiring a 2002 or 3 toyota tacoma and would like
> >to
> > ask those who have experience whether they would recomend a 4 or 6
> > cylinder
> > for use for camping travel on backroads and which transmision to[/color][/color]
consider[color=blue][color=green]
> > and why .
> >
> > The truck would not be used to haul other than camping gear to locations
> > requiring 4 wheel drive and of modest grade .
> >
> > Piror to test driving ( for which there is no substitute ) I would like[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > hear from owners as to there satisfaction and knowledge of pros and cons[/color][/color]
..[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > regards ,
> > n
> >
> >[/color]
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:42:09 GMT, "Brad P" <bradp_xx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>I have an 03 4cyl with manual. If you are concerned about gas, get the 4. I
>haul a 450lb snowmobile in my truck with a 75lb ramp through snow with no
>problems.[/color]


I would go for 4cyl too. With stock tires, you will have no power
issues off road. If you feel the need for big rubber, you should
regear truck be it 4cyl or V6 to maintain proper performance.
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

I went from stock 28 tires to 31, there is abit of decrease in speed on
large hills but overall, nothing serious besides a slightly off speedo.

If you have a 4 banger, and go beyond 31s, then perhaps a regear would be
necessary. But the inside stickers on mine say max tire size is 31.

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> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I have an 03 4cyl with manual. If you are concerned about gas, get the 4.[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> >haul a 450lb snowmobile in my truck with a 75lb ramp through snow with no
> >problems.[/color]
>
>
> I would go for 4cyl too. With stock tires, you will have no power
> issues off road. If you feel the need for big rubber, you should
> regear truck be it 4cyl or V6 to maintain proper performance.
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Old 04-24-2006, 11:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

"Norman Dowds" <dowds3926@shaw.ca> wrote:[color=blue]
>I am in the process of acquiring a 2002 or 3 toyota tacoma and would like to
>ask those who have experience whether they would recomend a 4 or 6 cylinder
>for use for camping travel on backroads and which transmision to consider
>and why .
>
>The truck would not be used to haul other than camping gear to locations
>requiring 4 wheel drive and of modest grade .
>
>Piror to test driving ( for which there is no substitute ) I would like to
>hear from owners as to there satisfaction and knowledge of pros and cons .
>[/color]
I've owned a '96 Taco (4x4, 3.4L V6, manual tranny) for roughly eight years now.
Seriously overpowered unless you're towing a large load. For just stuff in the
bed, a 4-banger with a manual tranny would have plenty of guts.
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:12:41 GMT, "Brad P" <bradp_xx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>I went from stock 28 tires to 31, there is abit of decrease in speed on
>large hills but overall, nothing serious besides a slightly off speedo.
>
>If you have a 4 banger, and go beyond 31s, then perhaps a regear would be
>necessary. But the inside stickers on mine say max tire size is 31.[/color]


I understand where you are coming from but 28 to 31 will result in
about a 11% overall power loose in the amount of effort applied to
grond at same driveshaft input levels and around 10% and above it is
time to consider regearing especailly if they is a good bit of hauling
of road (and not t mention it eases load on trany, engine and clutch
too)

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Old 04-25-2006, 02:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???


"Andy Hill" <andy_hill@hp.com> wrote in message
news:bpqp42dq9ri6kh5vart2ahskusgl5p8knt@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> "Norman Dowds" <dowds3926@shaw.ca> wrote:[color=green]
> >I am in the process of acquiring a 2002 or 3 toyota tacoma and would like[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> >ask those who have experience whether they would recomend a 4 or 6[/color][/color]
cylinder[color=blue][color=green]
> >for use for camping travel on backroads and which transmision to consider
> >and why .
> >
> >The truck would not be used to haul other than camping gear to locations
> >requiring 4 wheel drive and of modest grade .
> >
> >Piror to test driving ( for which there is no substitute ) I would like[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> >hear from owners as to there satisfaction and knowledge of pros and cons[/color][/color]
..[color=blue][color=green]
> >[/color]
> I've owned a '96 Taco (4x4, 3.4L V6, manual tranny) for roughly eight[/color]
years now.[color=blue]
> Seriously overpowered unless you're towing a large load. For just stuff[/color]
in the[color=blue]
> bed, a 4-banger with a manual tranny would have plenty of guts.[/color]

I have an older 22R and I have been very happy with the four. The only
thing that I could complain about is that I can't pass Corvettes. But hey!,
I bought a four wheel drive truck. Oh yeah, I trouble getting out of second
gear in Colorado, but I like the scenery anyway. It hasn't ever left me
stranded.


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Old 04-25-2006, 06:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:06:45 -0700, "Brad Taylor" <BradTaylor@ev1.net>
wrote:
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>I have an older 22R and I have been very happy with the four. The only
>thing that I could complain about is that I can't pass Corvettes. But hey!,
>I bought a four wheel drive truck. Oh yeah, I trouble getting out of second
>gear in Colorado, but I like the scenery anyway. It hasn't ever left me
>stranded.[/color]


Colorado is has some beautiful country. I have traveled it many times.
That thin air there can really tax a motor at time. Not sure what year
you have but if you model allows it, advance the timing about 6 to 8
degrees over stock and it will help it some at altitude. When I travel
out there with my 89 burb, I advance the timing about 8 degrees over
what I run here and it does help at they realy high altitudes. Deeper
gears can help too.
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Old 04-25-2006, 11:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???

Another factor to consider is if you want to add after market engine
modifications. There are a lot more out there for the 6 cylinder over the
four. Although you could get a four cylinder and add a super charger..

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"Brad Taylor" <BradTaylor@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> "Andy Hill" <andy_hill@hp.com> wrote in message
> news:bpqp42dq9ri6kh5vart2ahskusgl5p8knt@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> "Norman Dowds" <dowds3926@shaw.ca> wrote:[color=darkred]
>> >I am in the process of acquiring a 2002 or 3 toyota tacoma and would
>> >like[/color][/color]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >ask those who have experience whether they would recomend a 4 or 6[/color][/color]
> cylinder[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >for use for camping travel on backroads and which transmision to
>> >consider
>> >and why .
>> >
>> >The truck would not be used to haul other than camping gear to locations
>> >requiring 4 wheel drive and of modest grade .
>> >
>> >Piror to test driving ( for which there is no substitute ) I would like[/color][/color]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >hear from owners as to there satisfaction and knowledge of pros and cons[/color][/color]
> .[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >[/color]
>> I've owned a '96 Taco (4x4, 3.4L V6, manual tranny) for roughly eight[/color]
> years now.[color=green]
>> Seriously overpowered unless you're towing a large load. For just stuff[/color]
> in the[color=green]
>> bed, a 4-banger with a manual tranny would have plenty of guts.[/color]
>
> I have an older 22R and I have been very happy with the four. The only
> thing that I could complain about is that I can't pass Corvettes. But
> hey!,
> I bought a four wheel drive truck. Oh yeah, I trouble getting out of
> second
> gear in Colorado, but I like the scenery anyway. It hasn't ever left me
> stranded.
>
>[/color]


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Old 04-26-2006, 12:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: 4 or 6 ???


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:06:45 -0700, "Brad Taylor" <BradTaylor@ev1.net>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I have an older 22R and I have been very happy with the four. The only
> >thing that I could complain about is that I can't pass Corvettes. But[/color][/color]
hey!,[color=blue][color=green]
> >I bought a four wheel drive truck. Oh yeah, I trouble getting out of[/color][/color]
second[color=blue][color=green]
> >gear in Colorado, but I like the scenery anyway. It hasn't ever left me
> >stranded.[/color]
>
>
> Colorado is has some beautiful country. I have traveled it many times.
> That thin air there can really tax a motor at time. Not sure what year
> you have but if you model allows it, advance the timing about 6 to 8
> degrees over stock and it will help it some at altitude. When I travel
> out there with my 89 burb, I advance the timing about 8 degrees over
> what I run here and it does help at they realy high altitudes. Deeper
> gears can help too.
> -----------------
> The SnoMan
> [url]www.thesnoman.com[/url][/color]

Thanks for the advice. If I were to reset the timing there, I'd have to
walk back to Houston. I'm not very good with fiddling with such devices. I
have the ability to build a beautiful engine and have. But I can't make the
damn thing run right. Fine tuning just didn't come with my package. When I
used to take my trail bike up into the rockies, I would add a .02 (I think)
wire to the main jet in order to ride over the Sangre de Cristo range at
Coledale. I think the pass is right around 10k. My '84 originally came
with an altitude adjusting carb which was great in the mountains. I never
had any trouble getting up and over anything with that carb. But it costs
about a thousand dollars uninstalled and I just can't justify it here in
Houston. I still don't have any real discernable problems at altitude, but
there some passes, like Loveland Pass on I-70 and the road that goes up to
Silverton from Durango that I never leave second gear. After I get some
major work done on it this summer, I'm looking to take it up there again for
some nostalgic roaming.


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Old 04-26-2006, 07:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:56:02 -0700, "Brad Taylor" <BradTaylor@ev1.net>
wrote:
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>Thanks for the advice. If I were to reset the timing there, I'd have to
>walk back to Houston. I'm not very good with fiddling with such devices. I
>have the ability to build a beautiful engine and have. But I can't make the
>damn thing run right. Fine tuning just didn't come with my package. When I
>used to take my trail bike up into the rockies, I would add a .02 (I think)
>wire to the main jet in order to ride over the Sangre de Cristo range at
>Coledale. I think the pass is right around 10k. My '84 originally came
>with an altitude adjusting carb which was great in the mountains. I never
>had any trouble getting up and over anything with that carb. But it costs
>about a thousand dollars uninstalled and I just can't justify it here in
>Houston. I still don't have any real discernable problems at altitude, but
>there some passes, like Loveland Pass on I-70 and the road that goes up to
>Silverton from Durango that I never leave second gear. After I get some
>major work done on it this summer, I'm looking to take it up there again for
>some nostalgic roaming.[/color]


I was last out there in 2003 and be traveling out there since the
70's. I know the loveland pass well. Try 160 west out of Wasenburg to
Cortez (it takes you past Great Sand Dunes and Cortez is a nice town
and Mesa Verede is near by too) and then 141 north out of Cortez for a
pretty drive up into Telluride then on to Montrose and 90 to Black
Canyon. I70 from Grand junction to Denver is pretty and Dillion area
just before pass on west side of pass is nice too. Route 9 north near
Dillon to 34 and into Grand Lake area and then north in to Rocky
Mountain National Park is pretty too. If you can built a engine and
have the sence to put a piece of wire in jets (nice trick) to lean it
out, you can get a timing light and retime engine as Yotas that timing
can be adjusted on is easy to do and it will help a lot. As you can
guess though on some of thouse route gas stations are few and far
between. My old Burb has a 40 gallon fuel tank which is pefect for
such extended trips. You should travel through them in winter like I
have a few times, it is awesome to see.
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:21:26 GMT, "Tony" <ac!ark_10@verizon.n@t>
wrote:
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>Although you could get a four cylinder and add a super charger[/color]


A Super would make a 4cyl run great at high altitude.
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