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Old 06-05-2006, 01:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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89 Toyota Pickup Troubles

Driving along at highway speed in my son's 89 pickup 4 cyl fuel injected.
Suddenly it just died. Got it over to the side to find that all the
electrical stuff worked but the vehicle wouldn't start.

Towed it home but couldn't find the problem. I assumed that it was a fuel
pump or filter. After I got under the vehicle I found that what I believe is
the Oxygen sensor was hanging loose by a few wires.

I believe in this vehicle the sensor is part of the the exhaust system. The
question is:

Would the loose Oxygen Sensor cause the vehicle to stop running?

That would be a much easier fix that a fuel pump replacement since they're
in the gas tank


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Old 06-05-2006, 01:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 89 Toyota Pickup Troubles

In article <a1Qgg.4263$vq3.2030@trndny09>,
"Franknphilly" <francisi1@verizon.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Driving along at highway speed in my son's 89 pickup 4 cyl fuel injected.
> Suddenly it just died. Got it over to the side to find that all the
> electrical stuff worked but the vehicle wouldn't start.
>
> Towed it home but couldn't find the problem. I assumed that it was a fuel
> pump or filter. After I got under the vehicle I found that what I believe is
> the Oxygen sensor was hanging loose by a few wires.
>
> I believe in this vehicle the sensor is part of the the exhaust system. The
> question is:
>
> Would the loose Oxygen Sensor cause the vehicle to stop running?
>
> That would be a much easier fix that a fuel pump replacement since they're
> in the gas tank[/color]

For it to just die would take more than an oxygen sensor.
The oxygen sensor only affects the fuel injection system in that it
adjusts the fuel to air ratio once the engine is warmed up.

For the truck to just die requires something electrical.
Like the electric fuel pump in the gas tank, or the ECU.
I would do a thorough check of all wire harnesses.

The fuel pump itself shouldn't just die, unless a wire was broken.

Check all the fuses as well.

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Old 06-05-2006, 08:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 89 Toyota Pickup Troubles

Same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago.. some of the O2 sensor
wiring had been pulled loose in some offroad brush... Check the 15A EFI fuse
under your hood.. If it's blown.. Crawl back underneath and check all the o2
sensor wiring again... if it were hanging, it could have slid up against
the exhaust and melted through the wire insulation causing your fuel
injection system to short out... That's what happened to me, and after some
re-wiring It was good as new..
Ian

"Ernie Leimkuhler" <ernie@stagesmith.com> wrote in message
news:ernie-454A31.23590504062006@news.west.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> In article <a1Qgg.4263$vq3.2030@trndny09>,
> "Franknphilly" <francisi1@verizon.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Driving along at highway speed in my son's 89 pickup 4 cyl fuel[/color][/color]
injected.[color=blue][color=green]
> > Suddenly it just died. Got it over to the side to find that all the
> > electrical stuff worked but the vehicle wouldn't start.
> >
> > Towed it home but couldn't find the problem. I assumed that it was a[/color][/color]
fuel[color=blue][color=green]
> > pump or filter. After I got under the vehicle I found that what I[/color][/color]
believe is[color=blue][color=green]
> > the Oxygen sensor was hanging loose by a few wires.
> >
> > I believe in this vehicle the sensor is part of the the exhaust system.[/color][/color]
The[color=blue][color=green]
> > question is:
> >
> > Would the loose Oxygen Sensor cause the vehicle to stop running?
> >
> > That would be a much easier fix that a fuel pump replacement since[/color][/color]
they're[color=blue][color=green]
> > in the gas tank[/color]
>
> For it to just die would take more than an oxygen sensor.
> The oxygen sensor only affects the fuel injection system in that it
> adjusts the fuel to air ratio once the engine is warmed up.
>
> For the truck to just die requires something electrical.
> Like the electric fuel pump in the gas tank, or the ECU.
> I would do a thorough check of all wire harnesses.
>
> The fuel pump itself shouldn't just die, unless a wire was broken.
>
> Check all the fuses as well.
>
> --
> Welding Instructor - South Seattle Comm. Coll.
> - Divers Institute of Technology
> CWI/CWE
> WABO Examiner[/color]


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Old 06-06-2006, 10:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 89 Toyota Pickup Troubles

Eazy E is a Genius !

That's exactly what it was. A 15 cent fuse. Many thanks sir !!!



"EasyE" <ezeuconn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qwWgg.46180$Lm5.24293@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> Same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago.. some of the O2 sensor
> wiring had been pulled loose in some offroad brush... Check the 15A EFI
> fuse
> under your hood.. If it's blown.. Crawl back underneath and check all the
> o2
> sensor wiring again... if it were hanging, it could have slid up against
> the exhaust and melted through the wire insulation causing your fuel
> injection system to short out... That's what happened to me, and after
> some
> re-wiring It was good as new..
> Ian
>
> "Ernie Leimkuhler" <ernie@stagesmith.com> wrote in message
> news:ernie-454A31.23590504062006@news.west.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> In article <a1Qgg.4263$vq3.2030@trndny09>,
>> "Franknphilly" <francisi1@verizon.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Driving along at highway speed in my son's 89 pickup 4 cyl fuel[/color][/color]
> injected.[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Suddenly it just died. Got it over to the side to find that all the
>> > electrical stuff worked but the vehicle wouldn't start.
>> >
>> > Towed it home but couldn't find the problem. I assumed that it was a[/color][/color]
> fuel[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > pump or filter. After I got under the vehicle I found that what I[/color][/color]
> believe is[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > the Oxygen sensor was hanging loose by a few wires.
>> >
>> > I believe in this vehicle the sensor is part of the the exhaust system.[/color][/color]
> The[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > question is:
>> >
>> > Would the loose Oxygen Sensor cause the vehicle to stop running?
>> >
>> > That would be a much easier fix that a fuel pump replacement since[/color][/color]
> they're[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > in the gas tank[/color]
>>
>> For it to just die would take more than an oxygen sensor.
>> The oxygen sensor only affects the fuel injection system in that it
>> adjusts the fuel to air ratio once the engine is warmed up.
>>
>> For the truck to just die requires something electrical.
>> Like the electric fuel pump in the gas tank, or the ECU.
>> I would do a thorough check of all wire harnesses.
>>
>> The fuel pump itself shouldn't just die, unless a wire was broken.
>>
>> Check all the fuses as well.
>>
>> --
>> Welding Instructor - South Seattle Comm. Coll.
>> - Divers Institute of Technology
>> CWI/CWE
>> WABO Examiner[/color]
>
>[/color]


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Old 06-07-2006, 07:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 89 Toyota Pickup Troubles

Any Time.... I know 1st and 2nd Gen. trucks very well... I beat them beyond
recognition... soooo I've got some knowledge on the stupid little problems
that you can have over the years..
Glad I could help!
IAn

"Franknphilly" <francisi1@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:_krhg.4933$vq3.811@trndny09...[color=blue]
> Eazy E is a Genius !
>
> That's exactly what it was. A 15 cent fuse. Many thanks sir !!!
>
>
>
> "EasyE" <ezeuconn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:qwWgg.46180$Lm5.24293@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...[color=green]
> > Same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago.. some of the O2 sensor
> > wiring had been pulled loose in some offroad brush... Check the 15A EFI
> > fuse
> > under your hood.. If it's blown.. Crawl back underneath and check all[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > o2
> > sensor wiring again... if it were hanging, it could have slid up[/color][/color]
against[color=blue][color=green]
> > the exhaust and melted through the wire insulation causing your fuel
> > injection system to short out... That's what happened to me, and after
> > some
> > re-wiring It was good as new..
> > Ian
> >
> > "Ernie Leimkuhler" <ernie@stagesmith.com> wrote in message
> > news:ernie-454A31.23590504062006@news.west.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
> >> In article <a1Qgg.4263$vq3.2030@trndny09>,
> >> "Franknphilly" <francisi1@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Driving along at highway speed in my son's 89 pickup 4 cyl fuel[/color]
> > injected.[color=darkred]
> >> > Suddenly it just died. Got it over to the side to find that all the
> >> > electrical stuff worked but the vehicle wouldn't start.
> >> >
> >> > Towed it home but couldn't find the problem. I assumed that it was a[/color]
> > fuel[color=darkred]
> >> > pump or filter. After I got under the vehicle I found that what I[/color]
> > believe is[color=darkred]
> >> > the Oxygen sensor was hanging loose by a few wires.
> >> >
> >> > I believe in this vehicle the sensor is part of the the exhaust[/color][/color][/color]
system.[color=blue][color=green]
> > The[color=darkred]
> >> > question is:
> >> >
> >> > Would the loose Oxygen Sensor cause the vehicle to stop running?
> >> >
> >> > That would be a much easier fix that a fuel pump replacement since[/color]
> > they're[color=darkred]
> >> > in the gas tank
> >>
> >> For it to just die would take more than an oxygen sensor.
> >> The oxygen sensor only affects the fuel injection system in that it
> >> adjusts the fuel to air ratio once the engine is warmed up.
> >>
> >> For the truck to just die requires something electrical.
> >> Like the electric fuel pump in the gas tank, or the ECU.
> >> I would do a thorough check of all wire harnesses.
> >>
> >> The fuel pump itself shouldn't just die, unless a wire was broken.
> >>
> >> Check all the fuses as well.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Welding Instructor - South Seattle Comm. Coll.
> >> - Divers Institute of Technology
> >> CWI/CWE
> >> WABO Examiner[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]


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