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Old 07-02-2006, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
Usul Muad'Dib
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Fuel Filter

Forgive me if this question has ben asked and answered a number of times.
I'm not a regular on this NG.

My question concerns the fuel filter on my 1989 SR5 V6 pickup. The service
dept at Toyota tells me it is not replaceable.

Is this true?

Norm


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Old 07-02-2006, 06:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Filter

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 21:54:01 GMT, "Usul Muad'Dib" <Usul
Muad'Dib@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Forgive me if this question has been asked and answered a number of times.
>I'm not a regular on this NG.
>
>My question concerns the fuel filter on my 1989 SR5 V6 pickup. The service
>dept at Toyota tells me it is not replaceable.
>
>Is this true?[/color]

Over-simplification. It can be replaced, but they have such a large
dirt capacity that they very rarely need replacement before 500,000
miles, if ever. You'd have to run many tanks of filthy gas through
before you could clog it.

And it's on there with metal fittings where the threads get
distorted from the torque of installation - you run the real risk of
stripping the steel fuel line flare nuts getting it apart without the
proper wrenches, and that repair costs much more than a simple filter
change.

--<< Bruce >>--

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Old 07-03-2006, 12:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Filter


"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:n4hga2tbuo8rsd72ssm4v1a40ii3hbepju@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>
> Over-simplification. It can be replaced, but they have such a large
> dirt capacity that they very rarely need replacement before 500,000
> miles, if ever. You'd have to run many tanks of filthy gas through
> before you could clog it.
>
> And it's on there with metal fittings where the threads get
> distorted from the torque of installation - you run the real risk of
> stripping the steel fuel line flare nuts getting it apart without the
> proper wrenches, and that repair costs much more than a simple filter
> change.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>[/color]
Does an 86' with a 22R have a similar fuel filter?


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Old 07-03-2006, 03:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Filter

In article <TX0qg.66$Og3.12@trnddc06>,
"Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> news:n4hga2tbuo8rsd72ssm4v1a40ii3hbepju@4ax.com...[color=green]
> >
> > Over-simplification. It can be replaced, but they have such a large
> > dirt capacity that they very rarely need replacement before 500,000
> > miles, if ever. You'd have to run many tanks of filthy gas through
> > before you could clog it.
> >
> > And it's on there with metal fittings where the threads get
> > distorted from the torque of installation - you run the real risk of
> > stripping the steel fuel line flare nuts getting it apart without the
> > proper wrenches, and that repair costs much more than a simple filter
> > change.
> >
> > --<< Bruce >>--
> >[/color]
> Does an 86' with a 22R have a similar fuel filter?[/color]

No.
I wish it did.

22R trucks with carbs have the fuel filter clipped to the frame right
next to the fuel tank.
It is pretty easy to change out, and they only cost about $6.
Just wear gloves and goggles as it can dribble gas on you in the process.

22R fuel injected have the fuel filter bolted to the side of the block
under the intake manifold, above the starter motor, and they cost about
$15.
It is a bit of a braille affair, done more by feel than sight.
The fuel lines are bolted to the ends of the fuel filter using "banjo
bolts".
These are torqued on quite tight and can be a bear to remove.
Fuel injected systems run with a 20psi fuel line so when you release one
of the bolts, gas will spray out the end for a little while.
I just wrap the bolt and wrench with a rag to catch it.
There is one 12mm bolt above and one below the filter connecting it to
the side of the block.

When you replace the FI filter you should get new copper washers along
with the filter.

--
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Fuel Filter


"Ernie Leimkuhler" <ernie@stagesmith.com> wrote in message
news:ernie-7DEE9E.00222003072006@news.west.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> In article <TX0qg.66$Og3.12@trnddc06>,
> "Joseph Wind" <jpg@gif.com.invalid> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:n4hga2tbuo8rsd72ssm4v1a40ii3hbepju@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> > Over-simplification. It can be replaced, but they have such a large
>> > dirt capacity that they very rarely need replacement before 500,000
>> > miles, if ever. You'd have to run many tanks of filthy gas through
>> > before you could clog it.
>> >
>> > And it's on there with metal fittings where the threads get
>> > distorted from the torque of installation - you run the real risk of
>> > stripping the steel fuel line flare nuts getting it apart without the
>> > proper wrenches, and that repair costs much more than a simple filter
>> > change.
>> >
>> > --<< Bruce >>--
>> >[/color]
>> Does an 86' with a 22R have a similar fuel filter?[/color]
>
> No.
> I wish it did.
>
> 22R trucks with carbs have the fuel filter clipped to the frame right
> next to the fuel tank.
> It is pretty easy to change out, and they only cost about $6.
> Just wear gloves and goggles as it can dribble gas on you in the process.
>
> 22R fuel injected have the fuel filter bolted to the side of the block
> under the intake manifold, above the starter motor, and they cost about
> $15.
> It is a bit of a braille affair, done more by feel than sight.
> The fuel lines are bolted to the ends of the fuel filter using "banjo
> bolts".
> These are torqued on quite tight and can be a bear to remove.
> Fuel injected systems run with a 20psi fuel line so when you release one
> of the bolts, gas will spray out the end for a little while.
> I just wrap the bolt and wrench with a rag to catch it.
> There is one 12mm bolt above and one below the filter connecting it to
> the side of the block.
>
> When you replace the FI filter you should get new copper washers along
> with the filter.
>[/color]

Lucky I have a Carb 22R. I'll probably change it on the next oil change.
Thanks for the info!


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