Tire trouble!

Hello,

I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra... Tires have worn out in 11k miles! Didn't know
why until Toyota sent me a recall for bad ball joints! So all the time I was
driving, the front end alignment was very bad.. It was due to the bad ball
joints..

Called the complaint line for Toyota after I had the ball joints replaced
and the front end aligned and asked if they could help me out with the tire
replacement.. It was a flat out "NO"..

So no more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!

PC

Dude, the ball joint recall has nothing to do with freeplay that could
cause premature tire wear. As ray responded to your cross post in
alt.toyota, the alignment is done because of the recall (removing ball
joints requires re-setting the alignment), not because the original ball
joints may have been scratched during assembly. But feel free to buy a
dodge that really DOES have loose ball joints before 30k miles.

If you're lucky maybe you can still get a Ford Exploder with Firestone
tires?

"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
news:44ba76e7$0$3627$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra... Tires have worn out in 11k miles! Didn't
> know why until Toyota sent me a recall for bad ball joints! So all the
> time I was driving, the front end alignment was very bad.. It was due to
> the bad ball joints..
>
> Called the complaint line for Toyota after I had the ball joints replaced
> and the front end aligned and asked if they could help me out with the
> tire replacement.. It was a flat out "NO"..
>
> So no more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC
>
>[/color]

"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
news:44ba76e7$0$3627$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra... Tires have worn out in 11k miles! Didn't
> know why until Toyota sent me a recall for bad ball joints! So all the
> time I was driving, the front end alignment was very bad.. It was due to
> the bad ball joints..
>
> Called the complaint line for Toyota after I had the ball joints replaced
> and the front end aligned and asked if they could help me out with the
> tire replacement.. It was a flat out "NO"..
>
> So no more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC
>
>[/color]

What brand/model tire out of curiousity? Have you attempted to contact an
affiliated dealer to see if there may be any coverage for the tire there?

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:24:27 -0400, "Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hello,
>
>I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra... Tires have worn out in 11k miles! Didn't know
>why until Toyota sent me a recall for bad ball joints! So all the time I was
>driving, the front end alignment was very bad.. It was due to the bad ball
>joints..
>
>Called the complaint line for Toyota after I had the ball joints replaced
>and the front end aligned and asked if they could help me out with the tire
>replacement.. It was a flat out "NO"..
>
>So no more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
>PC
>[/color]

It's been my experience that tires on new cars are warranteed by the
tire's manufacture, not the auto dealer. Call who ever made the tires
and enquire.

Skip

Certainly, that is your decision. However, where is the logic of
dropping a dependable vehicle like Toyota, for other makes that are
plagued with mechanical problems? You will spend more in the long run
for repairs than the cost of those $400 tires.

Paul wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra... Tires have worn out in 11k miles! Didn't know
> why until Toyota sent me a recall for bad ball joints! So all the time I was
> driving, the front end alignment was very bad.. It was due to the bad ball
> joints..
>
> Called the complaint line for Toyota after I had the ball joints replaced
> and the front end aligned and asked if they could help me out with the tire
> replacement.. It was a flat out "NO"..
>
> So no more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC[/color]

"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
news:44ba76e7$0$3627$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra... Tires have worn out in 11k miles! Didn't
> know why until Toyota sent me a recall for bad ball joints! So all the
> time I was driving, the front end alignment was very bad.. It was due to
> the bad ball joints..
>
> Called the complaint line for Toyota after I had the ball joints replaced
> and the front end aligned and asked if they could help me out with the
> tire replacement.. It was a flat out "NO"..
>
> So no more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC[/color]

I don't think the ball joints in the recall will affect tire wear as badly
as you describe. Since you have not actually described what the tire wear
is, I would like to suggest that there are many things that you can do to
affect tire wear even more than ball joints.

Actually, if one actually looks at what is done to replace the ball joints,
it is clear that the recall can easily be done without affecting the
alignment at all. I was surprised to see this, but it's fact. They only
CHECK the alignment, and adjust if needed but odds favor it not being
needed.

My daughter had a used Tacoma PreRunner that had been ofroaded (we think)
and the lower control arm on one side was a bit tweaked -- it had some deep
scratches where the truck had be driven over large rocks, I suspect the deep
scratches resulted from being drug, but I digress. Her truck had the recall
done, and the front end was the same afterwards, so it must have been
straight even before the ball joints were done. The service department noted
that the alignment was inspected/checked, but there was no note that it had
been changed. A quick inspection of the parts involved shows that the ball
joints can be replaced without altering the alignment settings. An alignment
after the ball joints is more of a CYA approach to the repairs than a
requirement of the repairs.





"qslim" <Suckers@suckersdotcom> wrote in message
news:7c6f443121ac09a2311c4bc25b66d89d@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue]
> Dude, the ball joint recall has nothing to do with freeplay that could
> cause premature tire wear. As ray responded to your cross post in
> alt.toyota, the alignment is done because of the recall (removing ball
> joints requires re-setting the alignment), not because the original ball
> joints may have been scratched during assembly. But feel free to buy a
> dodge that really DOES have loose ball joints before 30k miles.
>[/color]

Paul wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2003 Toyota Tundra... Tires have worn out in 11k miles! Didn't know
> why until Toyota sent me a recall for bad ball joints! So all the time I was
> driving, the front end alignment was very bad.. It was due to the bad ball
> joints..
>
> Called the complaint line for Toyota after I had the ball joints replaced
> and the front end aligned and asked if they could help me out with the tire
> replacement.. It was a flat out "NO"..
>
> So no more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC
>
>[/color]
1) OEM tires are usually not warranted for mileage.
2) Why didn't you look at the tread on your tires and notice rapid
wear far before they were worn out?
3) Were the tires correctly inflated all the time?
4) If the alignment was so bad that the tires work in 11k, there
usually is something so wrong that the driving feel is off. Did the
truck pull left or right?
5) Buy another brand at your peril. There is no perfect brand.
Every other brand I know of has many more problems.


Ken

SSSHHHHHHHH! You'll spoil it for everyone!
You're absolutely right, Jeff. Toyota put the alignment in the recall
to cover their ass. I haven't seen one yet that needed re-aligning. The
ball joints and studs are tapered, so they self-center when being
installed.

Not to mention they recall the lower ball joint, but the load bearing ball
joint is the top one.





"qslim" <Suckers@suckersdotcom> wrote in message
news:cc73d70e769fc7217731557a172a6303@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue]
> SSSHHHHHHHH! You'll spoil it for everyone!
> You're absolutely right, Jeff. Toyota put the alignment in the recall
> to cover their ass. I haven't seen one yet that needed re-aligning. The
> ball joints and studs are tapered, so they self-center when being
> installed.
>[/color]

There you go Hot Rod. Think Toyota screwed you buy a Ford or a
Chevy.......Then we'll discuss SCREWED......