Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow chains,
they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to be
doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for my
Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??
TIA
--
Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
[email]Noon-Air@comcast.net[/email]
Life is what happens while you were making other plans
"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow chains,
> they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to be
> doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for my
> Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
> purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??
>
> TIA
>
> --
>
> Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
> [email]Noon-Air@comcast.net[/email]
>
> Life is what happens while you were making other plans
>
>[/color]
I thought real chains were no longer used since they messed up the thin side
wall on radial tires and that cable "chains" were all that could be used?
"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow chains,
> they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to be
> doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for my
> Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
> purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??
>
> TIA
>
> --
>
> Steve @ Noon-Air Heating & A/C
> [email]Noon-Air@comcast.net[/email]
>
> Life is what happens while you were making other plans
>
>[/color]
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:45:15 -0500, "Wolfgang"
<NOwolfXgang_dieterxSPAM@NOXcox.netNOT> wrote:[color=blue]
>"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:6rWdnbA9ovUDuuvYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com...[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow chains,
>> they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to be
>> doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for my
>> Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
>> purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??[/color][/color]
NAPA is a national company - they can look in the computer and see
how many are sitting in the Nebraska or New York regional warehouse
and easily ship them to a Mississippi store. And don't forget the
rubber tensioners.
You will pay far less now than in the rush during the snowstorm -
the people who have them know you need them RIGHT NOW or you are stuck
for a few days, so they can charge what the market will bear...
And make your own mounting board - Take a 1X10 or chunk of plywood,
lengths of 2X4 to go sideways, drywall screws, and screw it together.
So you can lay the chain in the slots between 2X4's, lay the board in
front of the tire, drive over it, and then easily fasten and position
the chain on the tire while free of the ground. Much easier than
fighting with them using the 'drive over the chains' method, and
faster than jacking each corner up.
They sell plastic ones, but they look like they won't last.
If you have 4X4, get two sets and chain up both ends if you can.
[color=blue]
>I thought real chains were no longer used since they messed up the thin side
>wall on radial tires and that cable "chains" were all that could be used?[/color]
That all depends on the individual vehicle - if there are clearance
issues in the front wheelwells, they will point out those restrictions
in the Owner's Manual.
You'll have to contact them for info on their Roller Grip detachable chains,
as their website doesn't show much info.
I don't own a set yet, but the previous owner of my 4Runner had them and
liked them so much that he kept them. As I recall, you don't need to drive
over them or raise the tires to install them and they don't use spreaders.
Also, with their swivel hook design you can replace cross links without the
need for any tools. I don't know what the prices are or how they compare to
regular tire chains, but it couldn't hurt to look.
Hope this helps. Now I just need to follow my own advice and buy a set.
Peter
"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:a8lcn2hde112cl763l92mn19c69cl8409c@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:45:15 -0500, "Wolfgang"
> <NOwolfXgang_dieterxSPAM@NOXcox.netNOT> wrote:[color=green]
>>"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:6rWdnbA9ovUDuuvYnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@comcast.com...[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow
>>> chains,
>>> they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to
>>> be
>>> doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for
>>> my
>>> Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
>>> purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??[/color][/color]
>
> NAPA is a national company - they can look in the computer and see
> how many are sitting in the Nebraska or New York regional warehouse
> and easily ship them to a Mississippi store. And don't forget the
> rubber tensioners.
>
> You will pay far less now than in the rush during the snowstorm -
> the people who have them know you need them RIGHT NOW or you are stuck
> for a few days, so they can charge what the market will bear...
>
> And make your own mounting board - Take a 1X10 or chunk of plywood,
> lengths of 2X4 to go sideways, drywall screws, and screw it together.
> So you can lay the chain in the slots between 2X4's, lay the board in
> front of the tire, drive over it, and then easily fasten and position
> the chain on the tire while free of the ground. Much easier than
> fighting with them using the 'drive over the chains' method, and
> faster than jacking each corner up.
>
> They sell plastic ones, but they look like they won't last.
>
> If you have 4X4, get two sets and chain up both ends if you can.
>[color=green]
>>I thought real chains were no longer used since they messed up the thin
>>side
>>wall on radial tires and that cable "chains" were all that could be used?[/color]
>
> That all depends on the individual vehicle - if there are clearance
> issues in the front wheelwells, they will point out those restrictions
> in the Owner's Manual.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>[/color]
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:14:54 -0600, "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow chains,
>they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to be
>doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for my
>Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
>purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??
>
>TIA[/color]
I have used chains on and off over the years and alway keep a set
ready in my plow trucks in winter. Check out limk below for some on
line sources for them.
"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> didst type:
[color=blue]
> Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow chains,
> they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to be
> doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for my
> Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
> purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??[/color]
Will you be towing to need chains? A 4x4 on its own shouldn't need chains
unless you need to bust through a couple of feet of the stuff. A good
philosophy for chaining up 4x4s is to do it to get out of a jam, not into
one. My preference is "diamond" style:
and I chain up the rear first. If it is really needed, then I'll chain up
the front. Busting snow with chains takes a lot of horsepower to the wheels
and the rear axle is much stronger than the front CV joints for power
transmission. Most of the "tighteners" are pissant, use a couple of stout
bungees in an opposing V pattern.
If you just want better directional control/braking on glare ice highway
conditions while still being able to travel at speeds over 40-45mph, I'd
slap some cables on.
"blah" <blah@blah.blah> wrote in message
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> "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> didst type:
>[color=green]
>> Here in south Mississippi, if you ask at the parts house for snow chains,
>> they look at you like you brought a prostitute to church. I am going to
>> be
>> doing some traveling in a couple of weeks and will need some chains for
>> my
>> Tundra. Can somebody point me to a reputable internet site where I can
>> purchase some?? I am partial to the V-Bar type. Any ideas??[/color]
>
> Will you be towing to need chains? A 4x4 on its own shouldn't need chains
> unless you need to bust through a couple of feet of the stuff. A good
> philosophy for chaining up 4x4s is to do it to get out of a jam, not into
> one. My preference is "diamond" style:
>
> [url]http://tirechain.com/DIAMONDSTYLECARCHAINS.htm[/url]
>
> and I chain up the rear first. If it is really needed, then I'll chain up
> the front. Busting snow with chains takes a lot of horsepower to the
> wheels
> and the rear axle is much stronger than the front CV joints for power
> transmission. Most of the "tighteners" are pissant, use a couple of stout
> bungees in an opposing V pattern.
>
> If you just want better directional control/braking on glare ice highway
> conditions while still being able to travel at speeds over 40-45mph, I'd
> slap some cables on.[/color]
I won't be towing with chains on, but I will be traveling to from South
Mississippi to Northern California in January. The chains are not so much
for piece of mind, but to be able to continue to travel when the highway
department puts up the signs that say "Chains Required". This is not my
first trip out there or my first time to drive in snow/ice. without posting
my entire resume, suffice it to say that living in UP Michigan and Kodiak,
Alaska for a couple of years each, gives me a little experience in the
stuff. I just want to be ready for it with my new truck before I get there.
BTW...my Tundra is NOT 4wd, and I do have some decent M/S tires on already,
so that is not an issue.
<snip> The chains are not so much[color=blue]
> for piece of mind, but to be able to continue to travel when the highway
> department puts up the signs that say "Chains Required".[/color]
I see. In my native state of Montana, its assumed that anybody on the road
should know what they are doing and will suffer the consequences otherwise.
Chains aren't "required" since good sense is or you die. Things are very
different in Kalifornia ...
<snip> This is not my[color=blue]
> first trip out there or my first time to drive in snow/ice. without[/color]
posting[color=blue]
> my entire resume, suffice it to say that living in UP Michigan and Kodiak,
> Alaska for a couple of years each, gives me a little experience in the
> stuff.[/color]
OK, you know what is going on ... pardon my assumptions given your current
geographical location. :-)
"blah" <blah@blah.blah> wrote in message
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> "Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> didst type:
>
> <snip> The chains are not so much[color=green]
>> for piece of mind, but to be able to continue to travel when the highway
>> department puts up the signs that say "Chains Required".[/color]
>
> I see. In my native state of Montana, its assumed that anybody on the
> road
> should know what they are doing and will suffer the consequences
> otherwise.
> Chains aren't "required" since good sense is or you die. Things are very
> different in Kalifornia ...
>
> <snip> This is not my[color=green]
>> first trip out there or my first time to drive in snow/ice. without[/color]
> posting[color=green]
>> my entire resume, suffice it to say that living in UP Michigan and
>> Kodiak,
>> Alaska for a couple of years each, gives me a little experience in the
>> stuff.[/color]
>
> OK, you know what is going on ... pardon my assumptions given your current
> geographical location. :-)[/color]
No problem.... I will try not to make any assumptions about nervous sheep in
Montana either LOL
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:28:30 -0700, "blah" <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Will you be towing to need chains? A 4x4 on its own shouldn't need chains
>unless you need to bust through a couple of feet of the stuff.[/color]
Guess again, 4x4 is about worthless on ice and can result in control
lost. A 2wd with any kind of chains on it will dance around a 4x4
without them on ice. Heck even a 2wd with studded tires will out do a
4x4 on ice. My wife uses them on her 2wd cherokee in winter and she
see a lot of 4x4 SUV owner in ditch with 4x4 drive on ice because they
like you thought 4x4 was "magic" on ice.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:02:27 -0700, "blah" <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
[color=blue]
> In my native state of Montana, its assumed that anybody on the road
>should know what they are doing and will suffer the consequences otherwise.[/color]
Except some of them. Ayone with respect for the mountain roads out
there will use studded tires or chains when it is bad. I even lived in
MT for a while in 90's and travel that state and WY and CO manyyears
in winter and I have seen a lot of people 4x4 bite the dust because
their magic 4x4 sheild failed.
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TheSnoMan.com
SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote in
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[color=blue]
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:28:30 -0700, "blah" <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Will you be towing to need chains? A 4x4 on its own shouldn't need
>>chains unless you need to bust through a couple of feet of the stuff.[/color]
>
>
> Guess again, 4x4 is about worthless on ice and can result in control
> lost. A 2wd with any kind of chains on it will dance around a 4x4
> without them on ice. Heck even a 2wd with studded tires will out do a
> 4x4 on ice. My wife uses them on her 2wd cherokee in winter and she
> see a lot of 4x4 SUV owner in ditch with 4x4 drive on ice because they
> like you thought 4x4 was "magic" on ice.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>[/color]
Let me tell you.
As a Kalifornian that goes skiiing just a bit.
Most residences think 4x4 is MAGIC.
I see more people twice as stuck as thier 4x2 counterparts.
People see me chaining up my 4x4 Taco and ask why?
I tell em it is so I don't get stuck when I pull out someone in thier
Expedition, Denali, Navigator, Cherokee...
They usually give me a Huh?
This is one time that I will actually accept money as I will beat up my
snatch strap and winch cable during the ski season.
Been thinking about a synthetic rope for the winch now.
If'n I was a Bast!*@& I would be charging 40-60 to get you loose.
As it is I ask for five dollars and by the end of the season I can
usually buy a new stap and wire rope.
"SteelPig" <SteelPigREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote in
> news:v6pen2lchaku4lseogl75b5trjrru7fvrl@4ax.com:
>[color=green]
>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:28:30 -0700, "blah" <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Will you be towing to need chains? A 4x4 on its own shouldn't need
>>>chains unless you need to bust through a couple of feet of the stuff.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Guess again, 4x4 is about worthless on ice and can result in control
>> lost. A 2wd with any kind of chains on it will dance around a 4x4
>> without them on ice. Heck even a 2wd with studded tires will out do a
>> 4x4 on ice. My wife uses them on her 2wd cherokee in winter and she
>> see a lot of 4x4 SUV owner in ditch with 4x4 drive on ice because they
>> like you thought 4x4 was "magic" on ice.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>>[/color]
>
> Let me tell you.
> As a Kalifornian that goes skiiing just a bit.
> Most residences think 4x4 is MAGIC.
> I see more people twice as stuck as thier 4x2 counterparts.
> People see me chaining up my 4x4 Taco and ask why?
> I tell em it is so I don't get stuck when I pull out someone in thier
> Expedition, Denali, Navigator, Cherokee...
>
> They usually give me a Huh?
>
> This is one time that I will actually accept money as I will beat up my
> snatch strap and winch cable during the ski season.
>
> Been thinking about a synthetic rope for the winch now.
>
> If'n I was a Bast!*@& I would be charging 40-60 to get you loose.
> As it is I ask for five dollars and by the end of the season I can
> usually buy a new stap and wire rope.[/color]
Many moons ago in a galaxy, far, far, away, I was driving an LTD wagon(with
chains) through Donner Pass and stopped in Truckee. I got off the interstate
nice as you please, stopped at the sigh at the bottom of the off ramp and
sat there and laughed when a 4X4 pick-up did a couple of 360s across the
intersection. Then its driver got out and UNLOCKED THE FRONT HUBS, then he
drove off.
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:02:27 -0700, "blah" <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast.net> didst type:
>
><snip> The chains are not so much[color=green]
>> for piece of mind, but to be able to continue to travel when the highway
>> department puts up the signs that say "Chains Required".[/color]
>
>I see. In my native state of Montana, its assumed that anybody on the road
>should know what they are doing and will suffer the consequences otherwise.
>Chains aren't "required" since good sense is or you die. Things are very
>different in Kalifornia ...[/color]
Yup. Sometimes they run "Chain Control" on the highways headed into
the ski areas to make sure everyone has them if they expect heavy snow
soon but it's not snowing (or not heavily) right now.
They don't have to be installed - if you have a set of chains /with
you/ that fit the vehicle, you can pass. (They'll look at the box,
and if there's any question they may make you put one on to prove they
fit. So don't bring the 155-13" ones for your Civic to fool them if
your truck has 265x16" on it.)
If you don't have any chains you can turn around and either go get a
set, or you can go home. This is to avoid the mayhem from City
Slickers that have no clue getting up in the mountains, and once the
conditions turn nasty then they can't get off the hill.
They don't have enough resources up there - tow trucks, Local Cops
or CHP Officers, Firemen, Paramedics and ambulances, and hospital beds
- to deal with the resulting carnage from "Amateur Hour at
Wrightwood." And it's never the idiot's fault that he got in the
accident, he's a victim too...
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