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Old 04-29-2005, 09:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Frantz toilet paper filters

Are any of you folks using Frantz toilet paper filters for your oil?
What's your experience? Does it work as advertised?



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Old 04-29-2005, 10:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Frantz toilet paper filters

Ron Tellus wrote:[color=blue]
> Are any of you folks using Frantz toilet paper filters for your oil?
> What's your experience? Does it work as advertised?
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Yes, works very well. The drawbacks are high cost to buy the unit
and frequent changes of the paper roll. The oil lasts just about
forever due to the extremely fine filtration and the new oil added
every 2000-3000 miles when the roll is replaced. Also, if you
extend the oil drains, you'll need an oil analysis from a lab every
5000 miles (the recommended oil drain interval, right?) to prove
that the oil is still good to protect your warranty.

Alternatives to the Frantz would the the modified Motorguard filter
or the OilGuard, or Amsoil (and others)
[url]http://www.bypassfilter.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.oilguard.com/[/url] (also sold as a Racor)

Why bother? If you'll drive many, many miles each year, you'll save
oil and filter costs and have less wear on the engine. If you drive
an average number of miles, your excellent Toyota engine will
outlast the rest of the truck with just normal maintenance.


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Old 04-29-2005, 11:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Frantz toilet paper filters

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:13:56 -0500, Ron Tellus <RTellus@maxtel.net>
wrote:
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>Are any of you folks using Frantz toilet paper filters for your oil?
>What's your experience? Does it work as advertised?[/color]

Good idea, bad execution.

Depth filters are great at 'scrubbing' the oil in combination with
the factory full-flow filter to grab all the big chunks. If you want
to add a 'depth bypass' type oil filter, there are filter elements
available from the major oil filter makers (in spin-on or cartridge
styles) that are specifically engineered for this purpose, usually
using long-fibre cotton batting.

Toilet paper is short fiber wood pulp from softwoods, and it's not a
consistent filtering medium because it was never meant for that use.
I've heard where the paper fibers disintegrate and get out into the
oil system, and much mayhem occurs...

If you have an engine that already has low oil pressure problems
because of wear and age, do NOT add a bypass filter. They tap into
the main oil gallery, go through the filter, and dump the filtered oil
back to the crankcase. That small flow of oil taken out of the supply
to the bearings might be enough to cause starvation problems.

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Old 05-10-2005, 03:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Frantz toilet paper filters

Ron Tellus wrote:
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> Are any of you folks using Frantz toilet paper filters for your oil?
> What's your experience? Does it work as advertised?
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are these thing still around?

I first saw one in 1966.

J.
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