High Beams 1994 Pick Up

I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go to
put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but the
headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I pull
back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on. Wondering if
anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly a mis-wiring or
faulty switch? Thanks for the help.

Scott
1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup

Sounds like a dirty/bad relay --- did you reseat them all and swap like ones
around?

"Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go to
>put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but the
>headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I pull
>back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on. Wondering if
>anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly a mis-wiring or
>faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>
> Scott
> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>[/color]

It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.

You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going out at
the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that was out for a
ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since the lamps cost aobut
$20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to about $100, I'd be replacing
the lamps first.




"Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go to
>put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but the
>headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I pull
>back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on. Wondering if
>anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly a mis-wiring or
>faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>
> Scott
> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>[/color]

But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the bulbs -
either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned too.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...[color=blue]
> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>
> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going out at
> the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that was out for a
> ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since the lamps cost aobut
> $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to about $100, I'd be
> replacing the lamps first.
>
>
>
>
> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...[color=green]
>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go
>>to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but
>>the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I
>>pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on.
>>Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly a
>>mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Scott
>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>[/color]
>[/color]

The bulbs are fine, I cleaned the contact on the combo switch and also just
replaced the relay, neither worked. I have not tried cleaning the wire
contacts on the combo switch. Will try that tomorrow, if that does not
work, I think I'll need to get a new combo switch.


"Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
news:J1Q_e.3192$B%5.3186@lakeread06...[color=blue]
> But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the bulbs -
> either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned too.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...[color=green]
>> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>>
>> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going out
>> at the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that was out
>> for a ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since the lamps
>> cost aobut $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to about $100,
>> I'd be replacing the lamps first.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go
>>>to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but
>>>the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I
>>>pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on.
>>>Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly a
>>>mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Sorry, I missed that part.

If the lights work when he holds the switch back, then the target of my
search would be the switch itself. The relay won't work any differently if
the switch is held or not, that is, if it fires and powers the High Beams
properly, then the relay works but it may or may not fire depending on how
the switch is operated. This points to the combo switch, not the relay.

And, yes the switch can be cleaned, but it has to be removed to find out if
it needs to be cleaned. At a minimun, the steering wheel has to come off in
preparation to get to the switch, it is possible that it can be cleaned from
there ...




"Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
news:J1Q_e.3192$B%5.3186@lakeread06...[color=blue]
> But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the bulbs -
> either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned too.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...[color=green]
>> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>>
>> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going out
>> at the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that was out
>> for a ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since the lamps
>> cost aobut $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to about $100,
>> I'd be replacing the lamps first.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go
>>>to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but
>>>the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I
>>>pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on.
>>>Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly a
>>>mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

The turn signal contacts generally respond to cleaning, the high beam switch
usually needs to be replaced.




"Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gtidnd7Q7dcsZqbeRVn-sA@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> The bulbs are fine, I cleaned the contact on the combo switch and also
> just replaced the relay, neither worked. I have not tried cleaning the
> wire contacts on the combo switch. Will try that tomorrow, if that does
> not work, I think I'll need to get a new combo switch.
>
>
> "Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:J1Q_e.3192$B%5.3186@lakeread06...[color=green]
>> But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the bulbs -
>> either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned too.
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>>> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>>>
>>> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going out
>>> at the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that was out
>>> for a ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since the lamps
>>> cost aobut $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to about $100,
>>> I'd be replacing the lamps first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...
>>>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go
>>>>to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but
>>>>the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I
>>>>pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on.
>>>>Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly
>>>>a mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

I actually removed the steering wheel and cleaned the contacts on the switch
already. What I did not do, and in retrospect should have when I had the
truck apart, was clean the contacts of the wires that run from the switch.
This will be done tomorrow and I will report the results.


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:05SdnacDxeMbmKHeRVn-qw@ez2.net...[color=blue]
> Sorry, I missed that part.
>
> If the lights work when he holds the switch back, then the target of my
> search would be the switch itself. The relay won't work any differently if
> the switch is held or not, that is, if it fires and powers the High Beams
> properly, then the relay works but it may or may not fire depending on how
> the switch is operated. This points to the combo switch, not the relay.
>
> And, yes the switch can be cleaned, but it has to be removed to find out
> if it needs to be cleaned. At a minimun, the steering wheel has to come
> off in preparation to get to the switch, it is possible that it can be
> cleaned from there ...
>
>
>
>
> "Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:J1Q_e.3192$B%5.3186@lakeread06...[color=green]
>> But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the bulbs -
>> either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned too.
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>>> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>>>
>>> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going out
>>> at the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that was out
>>> for a ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since the lamps
>>> cost aobut $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to about $100,
>>> I'd be replacing the lamps first.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...
>>>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I go
>>>>to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash but
>>>>the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights. If I
>>>>pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on.
>>>>Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly
>>>>a mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

The switch works in two directions, pull to flash the brights, push to light
them steady. I assume the flast works properly, but the steady does not.

There are different sets of contacts inside the switch, I'm thinking one of
them has worn out. I understand that you attempted to clean the switch in
place, but I think it's time to remove the switch for closer inspection.




"Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mNednSpeOZ6OPaHeRVn-2A@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>I actually removed the steering wheel and cleaned the contacts on the
>switch already. What I did not do, and in retrospect should have when I
>had the truck apart, was clean the contacts of the wires that run from the
>switch. This will be done tomorrow and I will report the results.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:05SdnacDxeMbmKHeRVn-qw@ez2.net...[color=green]
>> Sorry, I missed that part.
>>
>> If the lights work when he holds the switch back, then the target of my
>> search would be the switch itself. The relay won't work any differently
>> if the switch is held or not, that is, if it fires and powers the High
>> Beams properly, then the relay works but it may or may not fire depending
>> on how the switch is operated. This points to the combo switch, not the
>> relay.
>>
>> And, yes the switch can be cleaned, but it has to be removed to find out
>> if it needs to be cleaned. At a minimun, the steering wheel has to come
>> off in preparation to get to the switch, it is possible that it can be
>> cleaned from there ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:J1Q_e.3192$B%5.3186@lakeread06...[color=darkred]
>>> But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the bulbs -
>>> either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned too.
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...
>>>> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>>>>
>>>> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going out
>>>> at the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that was out
>>>> for a ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since the lamps
>>>> cost aobut $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to about $100,
>>>> I'd be replacing the lamps first.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...
>>>>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I
>>>>>go to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash
>>>>>but the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights.
>>>>>If I pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on.
>>>>>Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue. Possibly
>>>>>a mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Contacts in the switch ended up being shot. Had to replace the switch, my
truck is happy now.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions.


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6aidnW7eGczt_KDeRVn-qQ@ez2.net...[color=blue]
> The switch works in two directions, pull to flash the brights, push to
> light them steady. I assume the flast works properly, but the steady does
> not.
>
> There are different sets of contacts inside the switch, I'm thinking one
> of them has worn out. I understand that you attempted to clean the switch
> in place, but I think it's time to remove the switch for closer
> inspection.
>
>
>
>
> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mNednSpeOZ6OPaHeRVn-2A@comcast.com...[color=green]
>>I actually removed the steering wheel and cleaned the contacts on the
>>switch already. What I did not do, and in retrospect should have when I
>>had the truck apart, was clean the contacts of the wires that run from the
>>switch. This will be done tomorrow and I will report the results.
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:05SdnacDxeMbmKHeRVn-qw@ez2.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Sorry, I missed that part.
>>>
>>> If the lights work when he holds the switch back, then the target of my
>>> search would be the switch itself. The relay won't work any differently
>>> if the switch is held or not, that is, if it fires and powers the High
>>> Beams properly, then the relay works but it may or may not fire
>>> depending on how the switch is operated. This points to the combo
>>> switch, not the relay.
>>>
>>> And, yes the switch can be cleaned, but it has to be removed to find out
>>> if it needs to be cleaned. At a minimun, the steering wheel has to come
>>> off in preparation to get to the switch, it is possible that it can be
>>> cleaned from there ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:J1Q_e.3192$B%5.3186@lakeread06...
>>>> But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the bulbs -
>>>> either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned too.
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...
>>>>> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going
>>>>> out at the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that
>>>>> was out for a ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since
>>>>> the lamps cost aobut $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to
>>>>> about $100, I'd be replacing the lamps first.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...
>>>>>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I
>>>>>>go to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the dash
>>>>>>but the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running lights.
>>>>>>If I pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will come on.
>>>>>>Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar issue.
>>>>>>Possibly a mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

"Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hJudnceMYIIORdreRVn-hg@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Contacts in the switch ended up being shot. Had to replace the switch, my
> truck is happy now.
>
> Thanks to all who offered suggestions.
>
>[/color]

Thanks for the update. I wish more people would do that.
--
Bearman
If it's got tits, tires, tubes, or transistors, it's trouble.

You're welcome.





"Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hJudnceMYIIORdreRVn-hg@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Contacts in the switch ended up being shot. Had to replace the switch, my
> truck is happy now.
>
> Thanks to all who offered suggestions.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6aidnW7eGczt_KDeRVn-qQ@ez2.net...[color=green]
>> The switch works in two directions, pull to flash the brights, push to
>> light them steady. I assume the flast works properly, but the steady does
>> not.
>>
>> There are different sets of contacts inside the switch, I'm thinking one
>> of them has worn out. I understand that you attempted to clean the switch
>> in place, but I think it's time to remove the switch for closer
>> inspection.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mNednSpeOZ6OPaHeRVn-2A@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I actually removed the steering wheel and cleaned the contacts on the
>>>switch already. What I did not do, and in retrospect should have when I
>>>had the truck apart, was clean the contacts of the wires that run from
>>>the switch. This will be done tomorrow and I will report the results.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:05SdnacDxeMbmKHeRVn-qw@ez2.net...
>>>> Sorry, I missed that part.
>>>>
>>>> If the lights work when he holds the switch back, then the target of my
>>>> search would be the switch itself. The relay won't work any differently
>>>> if the switch is held or not, that is, if it fires and powers the High
>>>> Beams properly, then the relay works but it may or may not fire
>>>> depending on how the switch is operated. This points to the combo
>>>> switch, not the relay.
>>>>
>>>> And, yes the switch can be cleaned, but it has to be removed to find
>>>> out if it needs to be cleaned. At a minimun, the steering wheel has to
>>>> come off in preparation to get to the switch, it is possible that it
>>>> can be cleaned from there ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Wolfgang" <NOwolfgangdieterSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:J1Q_e.3192$B%5.3186@lakeread06...
>>>>> But his high beams work when he pulls back on switch so NOT the
>>>>> bulbs - either $15 relay or the switch. The switch can be cleaned
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:mr-dnR7DW_zJHqTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...
>>>>>> It sounds like a faulty combination switch to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could have faulty headlamps, but the odds of both of them going
>>>>>> out at the same time are remote. Of course, you could have one that
>>>>>> was out for a ong time, and now the other one has failed too. Since
>>>>>> the lamps cost aobut $20 each, or less, and the Combo Switch runs to
>>>>>> about $100, I'd be replacing the lamps first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Scott" <twobehrs@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:YOednbZ7MNC5_KreRVn-jg@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>I have a 1994 Toyota Pick Up. The headlights work fine accept when I
>>>>>>>go to put the high beams on. The high beam light comes on in the
>>>>>>>dash but the headlights go out completely, leaving just the running
>>>>>>>lights. If I pull back on the switch and hold it, the high beams will
>>>>>>>come on. Wondering if anyone has any ideas or has had a similar
>>>>>>>issue. Possibly a mis-wiring or faulty switch? Thanks for the help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 1994 4x4 xtra cab pickup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]