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Old 10-05-2005, 08:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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new question: changing the gear oil

OK, so I got my new axel. The guy who installed it told me that the trans fluid that dripped out when he changed the axel looked pretty bad--old, with shavings of metal, etc. He said I should have that changed, but that he doesn't do that work, because he has no recycle thing.

He replaced what came out with a pint of fresh stuff in the meantime.

So, my question is this. A friend of mine once for the heck of it had a transmission service, and he said that after that, his transmission was never the same again, and not in a good way.

So, should I have this done and risk creating new problems? Or should I say, "it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Thoughts, opinions? I don't want to "stir up trouble" with my car and create new needs.

So, should I just leave it? After all, it's been happy so far?
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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UGH! not changing the trans lube when doing service...well you know what i think of that anyway.
well, there are probably also reasons that might explain why your friend had a screwy time after his transmission service.
back on-track: if you have shavings in your trans oil, change it! having metal floating around in the trans is terrible. change it already! oh! and your new noise...i wonder if you're starving the trans for oil. do you have any difficulty shifting at all?
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Is this an automatic trans? If its a manual you can change the fluid and it won't hurt anything. I've heard lot's of differing opinions regarding auto's. If it were me, I would change it, but I would NOT have it "power flushed". Just drop the pan and let what drains out drain and change the filter. You'd have to do that a few times to get enough new fluid in there to make a difference. Or a different method to get even more of the old fluid out is to crack open the pressure side of the tranny cooler lines, fire the engine, and let the tranny pump push all that old fluid out into a bucket or something. Shut the engine down when the fluid coming out of the line slows down, or is intermittent. That method does risk damage to the trannys pump, but only if you let it run dry for to long. I would do it that way, but then again, I am crazy.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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No problems at all. Just the guy saying I should do it.



It's a 5 speed. As far as your instructions, I have no idea what he would do, or how he would do it. I found a guy who would do it for $20 ($40 less a new customer coupon of 20), but I would not be telling him "how" to do it, he runs a garage, wouldn't he know how to do it?



So, the vote seems to be to let the guy do it? BTW, the friend whose car that happened too also drove a 5 speed.
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The transmission holds almost $20 worth of oil. It's very simple, there's a drain plug at the lowest point then a refill point right on the front. Takes about 10 minutes depending on temperature and what grade oil is in there.
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he said it would take 40 minutes.
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OK, so UNTIL I get the gear oil changed...

the guy who did the axel told me he replaced what leaked out with a pint of new stuff. Does that sound right? Sounds like not very much at all...

given what he said, do you think in the meantime I am okay, or if he only replaced a pint, does that mean there is not that much in there...or is about a pint all that comes out with the changing of just one axel?

Inotherwords, how long do I have till I MUST have it done?
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hmmm?
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I merged these threads since they basically are the same subject.

I told you the transmission holds about $20 worth of oil. A quick mechanic won't spill much more than a pint swapping an axle. Get the oil changed as soon as you can afford it because if there is metal shavings in the oil they will cause costly damage. Try to ask the mechanic you choose if they will change the oil in the transmission while it is HOT. If they say yes take the car on a long fast drive right before you take it in. This will disturb shavings that have settled to mix in the oil and come out when drained.
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Wow, how did you do that? Are you an administrator for this board?

Anyhow, so then that begets the question: did changing the axel cause these metal shavings to get into the oil, or have they been like that for ages, and only this axel changed caused it to become apparent?

Oh, yeah, and another thing--why does the phrase "official TN dude" appear under my name? And how can I get rid of it?

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I'm a moderator as of recently in the tercel section.

Missing gears prolly caused the shavings, not changing the axle. The mechanic apparently saw the shavings in the oil that came out when the axle wasn't in the transmission while he was replacing it.

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hmmm, what do you mean by missing gears? So this is not indicative of a big problem, just an occasionally sloppy driver?

So, once this is changed, everything will be right and like new? Kind of like an oil change?
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You'll need to ask the person that changes the oil those questions since he'll be seeing the quantity and the size of said shavings.
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Cheap piece of mind. Before the next fluid change locate magnetic drain plugs and use them to replace the original oil pan and tranny plugs. They won't stop all chips from circulating and causing damage but the smaller fillings will cling to the magnets and warn you of possible damage.
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I don't see how I can locate any of that--isn't it underneath the car? Is this not something the mechanic would do when I take it in?

OK, the big question here is, by doing this, will it make whatever problem is causing this a little bit better, or will it bring the problem to the forefront FASTER???
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