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Old 10-22-2005, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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fix up or engine swap?

Hey whats up guys.
latly iv really been wanting to get some speed out of my 96 tercel but i dont know if i should just fix it up and get intake,headers,exaust,and work on the internal,(would that make my tercel fast?) or should i just go all out and put the 4age 20valve in it? (would that fit?)
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Whats your budget like? If you have at least $1000, you can get a 5E-FHE swap in your Tercel and probably come out better that route than doing the intake, exhaust, pulley, headers and internal work..believe me. A direct bolt up and will give you nice gains. Swap all the way....got two BYP Terrorcels right now (selling the 20 Valver though, interested in some real power? Message me) and they are great.

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Yeah, always go with the swap if you can afford it.

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i really to tell you the truth, i dont want a starlet engine. i want the 4age. it just seems like a better engine to me. what i would like to do is buy the 4age and change to the AE101 head. what do you think? how much do you guys think it will run?
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the 4age is gonna be a hellova lot more work than a 4efte, or 5efhe...remember you'll have to make a custom wiring harness, custom motor mounts, custom axles if you go with the 4age. UTA brings a good point with the 5efhe...that swap already has an upgraded intake manifold, with gains you could never get from a cold-air intake...also it has a performance oriented exhaust manifold, which right there alone, you're already upgraded manifold wise...plus it has forged rods and a higher compression ratio...if you just want to do bolt-ons, like not the turbo route...then a 5efhe will give you 110hp base powerplant and with cold-air intake and full exhaust, underdrive pulley... you would probably see 130 horse with a very sturdy base plant..

go to http://board.tercelonline.com and do some homework on the 5e-fhe...it has a dual runner intake manifold, tuned exhaust manifold, forged rods, and 9.8:1 compression ratio, also larger cams(maybe just intake cam), but right there is a new beast

it came out of a cynos or seras, and corollas in japan i beleive

depending on how many miles you have on your engine, would determine going swap or upgrading...i'd say if your engine has over 150,000 miles and you generally beat the shit out of it...putting new performance parts is gonna really just make up for lost horsepower cause of the condition of the thing...
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i really to tell you the truth, i dont want a starlet engine. i want the 4age. it just seems like a better engine to me. what i would like to do is buy the 4age and change to the AE101 head. what do you think? how much do you guys think it will run?
Just buy a 4AGE silvertop, you can get them for like $1200 shipped with the harness, tranny, everything. You don't need custom axles either, the stock Tercel parts will fit. You would need custom mounts, exhaust, some hoses and whatnot, and the wiring, which I can do for you for $350.

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i really to tell you the truth, i dont want a starlet engine. i want the 4age. it just seems like a better engine to me. what i would like to do is buy the 4age and change to the AE101 head. what do you think? how much do you guys think it will run?
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