OK here is the deal, I did started a new thread and yes its about engines again. And I know that there is the same threads already. You can post a link to them for reference. I intend to keep this one going since need to know my own details and not read through some one elses posts. And I also did not gather much information in the old thread. So please bear with me.
I am still trying to gather enough info about
4efte 1.3L Turbo & 5efhe 1.5L
If some one could answer following Q and fill out some blanks. Or refer me to where I can find my answer to a specific Q. Any other helpful input will be apriciated. If any of you did a swap from 3EE to 4efte 1.3L Turbo or 5efhe 1.5L. Please give you contact. Incase I will need some direct help about the swap.
P.S. Please only serious thoughts. I am debiting on how to waist my years savings here. So please help me the right way. Keep in mind I am getting a complete swap (Engine, ECU, Uncut or cut but usable harnesses and sensors. All or some externals and a 5 speed standard Tranny)
4efte 1.3L Turbo.
1 Since Starlet is right sided how will it go with my Cel, I mean will the hookups will the on the right side. What about the location of the tranny?
2 My 94 Cel has 4spd Auto gear box. There for additional stuff will be needed. (Tach, Pedal, Shift Stick & Boot) Any thing for the engin bay?
3 How good is Starlet’s gear box? Gear ratio? How tough is it ?
4 Before I drop the swap in, should I consider putting some kind of Pref Clutch if yes. What one and what it will be worth ?
5 Swap comes from 30K to 50K kms, should I change some thing inexpensive before its in?
6 MOST IMPORTANT. 4efte 1.3L Turbo. Is very uncommon in North America. So when I will looking for replacement parts. Such as Oil Filter, Timing Belt, Pulleys, Oil Pump, Distributer, Ignition wires, And what ever other stuff that brakes and wears out. For what car’s parts will be I asking at the parts store?
7 Does any one knows how much HP does 4efte 1.3L Turbo. Has with out Turbo on it ? How many PSI does it put out?
8 How strong is 4efte 1.3L I mean. How strong are internal walls. How much abuse can I put it through. Will it take NOS with not problem. Considering that are all NOS components are in and all of the restrictions are followed. With all of the required components. And how much NOS boost can that engin take? Will take more powerful Turbo boost.
9 What should I worry about if I was to get this engine ? Or what should I be keeping my eye on to prevent expansive damage.
10 Can any of the internals be replaced by 1.5 components if yes, from what 1.5?
11 THE MOST IMPORTANT. Can some one refer me or tell me details about the swap for that engine. I never done a swap of any kind before. But I do have a great mechanical experience and I have friends who are mechanics and will help me. A detailed online guide would help.
12 I keep hearing about the wiring in nightmare. Any one got some kind of hand made diagram for it. Or may be there is an actual professional diagram for wiring in a 4efte. Will the nightmare still be present if the harasses are still usable or uncut? And what about the sensors? What do I do about them or with them.?
13 Will the exhaust match? And just bolt on? How about the axils? And hoses such as from rad to thermostat?
14 After all is it worth getting on the first place. How reliable is it, apart from all the abuse. When it just comes down to regular driving. Would you recommend it for just a daily driving.
(THAT IS NOT MY PANS FOR IT.) I am just looking for a perspective on that engine from a different point of wive) I know Toyota engine will KEEP GOING AND GOING AND GOING. But will it be chugging oil just like all the other when it hits near 200K mark.
Now for 5efhe 1.5L.
I already figured, that this engine will be a lot easier. Since it more like and upgrade of sort. Its basically the same engine just better. So bu the looks of it, its more like simple plug and play type job.Or am I mistaking and how much ?
But still her are some of the same questions for this engine as well.
1 My 94 Cel has 4spd Auto gear box. There for additional stuff will be needed. (Tach, Pedal, Shift Stick & Boot) Any thing for the engin bay?
2 How good is (BLANK’S) gear box? Gear ratio? How tough is it ?
3 Before I drop the swap in, should I consider putting some kind of Pref Clutch if yes. What one and what it will be worth ?
4 I heard that it is possible to put a 4efte 1.3L Turbo’s head on it. Or it is some other stock Tercel’s engine. True or False? If True Please details on that.
5 How strong is 5efhe 1.5L I mean. How strong are internal walls. How much abuse can I put it through. Will it take NOS with not problem. Considering that are all NOS components are in and all of the restrictions are followed. With all of the required components. And how much NOS boost can that engin take? Will take more powerful Turbo boost.
6 What should I worry about if I was to get this engine ? Or should I be keeping my eye on to prevent expansive damage.
I think that’s it..If I think of anything else on the way, I will post it up. And other of your thoughts are welcome.
After my successful swap, I will post a pics and clips with detailed instructions for some one else for some one else to follow. Kind of like with the Timing belt.
and as far as wireing, you can call painless wireing... they might have a setup for you. you tell them what car you have, what engine you want and they can custom make one for you.... new fuse pannel and everything.
The 4E is a 1.3 L (1331 cc) DOHC version. Output ranged from 81 hp at 6400 RPM to 99 hp at 6600 RPM with 81 ft·lbf of torque at 3600 RPM to 6 ft·lbf of torque at 5200 RPM. It appeared in 1989, and was discontinued after 1998. The 4E engines appeared in fuel-injected applications. The 4E-FTE, appearing in 1989, was a turbocharged engine producing 133 hp at 6400 RPM with 116 ft·lbf of torque at 4800 RPM.
Applications:
The 5E is a 1.5 L (1497 cc) DOHC version. Output ranged from 94 hp at 5400 RPM to 110 hp at 6400 RPM with 91 ft·lbf of torque at 3200 RPM to 100 ft·lbf of torque at 4000 RPM. It appeared in 1991, and was discontinued after 1998. All 5E engines were fuel-injected.
Applications:
Thank you for that. But since I am just like all, on a very tight budget I am looking for some thing more along the lines. When some was dropping 4E in their CEL they wrote down what sire hooks up to what. Since most the time the donor engine is muchered out of the car. And all the wires are just cut off. So if you can find a diagram where it sys what wire comming outa of the 4E engine and what wire I have to runt to comming out of my 94 CEL that would be "FLY".....Thanks so far though. Graight info on Engins.
OK, so you say, I can find all the wear & tear parts in my local Parts store. I was hopping you'd say timming belt. And plug wires and disty cap. Coz those are the most expansive. Well I don't have those stores around here, but I do have NAPA Friendly NAPA lol. And Parts Source who grossly over charges ANY ONE walking in through the door. By no less then 50$ lol. But thats besides the point. Q remains, when I will go get those replacement parts, what car shoud I be asking it for. I am sure when I will tell them its for Starlet, they look at me like I am an Idiot lol. Oh yeh and what about the gaskets?
Thnkas again!
P.S. Does any one have 4EFTE engine in their CEL or they only talk about it, how good it is and now one actually has it lol.
yes, you should have no problem getting any of those problems... and if you get the 4e-fte you tell them you have a turbo starlet..... 1989 or whatever year the doner comes from. they should be able to get you the timing belt, all gaskets.. (maybe smarter to get the complete gasket kit) its cheaper and faster.... if they dont have the part, they can get it to you within 3 days.
contact back yard productions for anything you need as far as wiring
Maybe you should check out http://board.tercelonline.com and start searching around that site for 4efte and 5efhe information, there is a wealth of it, and its a wealth of information you are asking for my friend
i somehow doubt that painless wiring has anything for that particular engine ESPECIALLY since it's a non-USDM engine.
theres a guy whos got a volvo engine in a 39 chevy... the wireing harness, painless. yes, they are expencive, but they give you everything to do your complete car. from headlight, to taillight. one way to find out if they make em.....
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4efte 1.3L Turbo VS 5efhe 1.5L.
Coz those are the most expansive. Well I don't have those stores around here, but I do have NAPA 
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