tercel with 14" civic mag and 185/65 /r14 wheels

[tercelmobile]

Hi, it's the first time I come here! I'd like to know if I could put 14" inche mags on my 96 tercel dx ? I know that i't 0.9 inches of diameter more than the 155/80r13 stock wheel and that it might not be the best thing to put on my car but I already have the mags et wheel and I want to know if I coulg put it! Is the diameter to large? does the 185 will scrap my motor or something eslse? What could I break if I'd put it?

Thank you! If it is possible, send me the answer on my email adress: philippe.germain.4@ulaval.ca

[thoughthard]

I think 185-60-14 is the optimal size. You pry could use the 185-65-14 with no problems, and get the correct size later.

[EvoIVTercel]

look at my post of my car i have 14 in wheel from a 92 civic they fit and u dont loose your mileage

[idavid76]

I opted for a set of 15X6 American Racing Coil wheels with 205/50R15 Kumhos. I had to roll the rear lip on the fenders and if I turn all the way to lockon my steering wheel my tires rub on the inside of the front splash guard. But I love the way it looks with meaty tires.

[Celler]

I work, in a pro Tires and Wheels shop, Its all we do all day long. The biggest wheels you can slap on with out a mod are 15"x5 with regular low prof rubbers. For that size wheels and pretty good rubbers. You are looking at about $120 a wheel and $180 for a rubber. plus $15 installation and balancing.

For 4 15's with rubbers installed and balanced will run you about $1500 tax incl.
If you use cheap tires you can get away with $1100, but don't expect those tires to run you more then summer and a half. out of $1500 you can go for about 2 and half or 3 summers. And I am talking just regular driving. If you wanna burn em` or race and so on. I am sure
you kill them in a month.

Or 16x4.5/5 with very, low prof tires. Like Michelin Pilots Sports. And you will need to cut off a little bit of your engine splash guard. Or just move it back.. They can go to $300 and up in that size. But just like I said, you can go with cheaper version and just as good. FOR CHEAP AND GOOD TIRES I HIGHLY recommend COOPER ZION!. Will cost you about $200 or less in that size depends on the model you select. DUNLOPS are also excellent tires. A little bit more expansive though.

So for 4 16's with rubbers installed and balanced will run you about $2300 tax incl.
Then you can go a little extra with 17" But you will need to do some moding under your front fenders. Not really difficult or anything just have to figure out how to move things around. But if you go 17" You will need high pref Z-Rated tires, since they are very low prof. And they can start at 400$ and up. And wheels in that size will be $200 if you are lucky.

17" with rubbers installed and balanced will run you about $2600 and up. Plus you will need to do some custom work on your plastic.

WARNING I would not use Z-rated tires for daily driving. Z-rated tires are made of different rubber compound that wears out 3 times faster then your regular high speed rated low prof tire and about 5 times faster then a regular daily use touring tire. Put Z's for shows, races or weekends or evening driving. Unless you's loaded.

All those prices looks like a lot. Unless you know some one on the inside. To be honest with you, they are nearly doubled for the costumer. Trust me don't be shy to ask for a deal, a lot of time we cut good ones.

But 14, they will fit no problem at all up to 15. YOU WILL NOT BRAKE ANYTHING. But it will be harder on your engine. The bigger your tires, harder it will be for your motor. There for you will be burning a little more gas.

[idavid76]

Dude, sorry to flame you, but those prices are outrageous! You gotta be an idiot to pay that much for wheel and tire combo. My wheel/tire combo ran me $600 tops, and thats AR wheels with Kumhos, not the best but certainly not the cheapest either.

[oreo-650]

Originally Posted by Celler

I work, in a pro Tires and Wheels shop, Its all we do all day long. The biggest wheels you can slap on with out a mod are 15"x5 with regular low prof rubbers. For that size wheels and pretty good rubbers. You are looking at about $120 a wheel and $180 for a rubber. plus $15 installation and balancing.

For 4 15's with rubbers installed and balanced will run you about $1500 tax incl.
If you use cheap tires you can get away with $1100, but don't expect those tires to run you more then summer and a half. out of $1500 you can go for about 2 and half or 3 summers. And I am talking just regular driving. If you wanna burn em` or race and so on. I am sure
you kill them in a month.

Or 16x4.5/5 with very, low prof tires. Like Michelin Pilots Sports. And you will need to cut off a little bit of your engine splash guard. Or just move it back.. They can go to $300 and up in that size. But just like I said, you can go with cheaper version and just as good. FOR CHEAP AND GOOD TIRES I HIGHLY recommend COOPER ZION!. Will cost you about $200 or less in that size depends on the model you select. DUNLOPS are also excellent tires. A little bit more expansive though.

So for 4 16's with rubbers installed and balanced will run you about $2300 tax incl.
Then you can go a little extra with 17" But you will need to do some moding under your front fenders. Not really difficult or anything just have to figure out how to move things around. But if you go 17" You will need high pref Z-Rated tires, since they are very low prof. And they can start at 400$ and up. And wheels in that size will be $200 if you are lucky.

17" with rubbers installed and balanced will run you about $2600 and up. Plus you will need to do some custom work on your plastic.

WARNING I would not use Z-rated tires for daily driving. Z-rated tires are made of different rubber compound that wears out 3 times faster then your regular high speed rated low prof tire and about 5 times faster then a regular daily use touring tire. Put Z's for shows, races or weekends or evening driving. Unless you's loaded.

All those prices looks like a lot. Unless you know some one on the inside. To be honest with you, they are nearly doubled for the costumer. Trust me don't be shy to ask for a deal, a lot of time we cut good ones.

But 14, they will fit no problem at all up to 15. YOU WILL NOT BRAKE ANYTHING. But it will be harder on your engine. The bigger your tires, harder it will be for your motor. There for you will be burning a little more gas.

on my 90 i had 16's. i was runnin 215/40/16's. normal ride it was fine. when i had more then 1 other person in the car, on hard bumps it would rub in the rear. i only had a slight problem with them rubbing in the front when i turned all the way. i just backed it off slightly. and you can get some good looking 16's with tire for around $800. i think i paid around $600. ive got a friend who ownes a tire shop.

[oreo-650]

www.tirerack.com put in your car. it will show you what you can have on your car safely. what size tire and how much for what you choose. if nothing elce you can use it as a guide for tire/rim size cause their prices can be a little high.

[thoughthard]

Never seen a 15x5 or a 16x4.5/5 wheel.

Not neccessarily true:

WARNING I would not use Z-rated tires for daily driving. Z-rated tires are made of different rubber compound that wears out 3 times faster then your regular high speed rated low prof tire and about 5 times faster then a regular daily use touring tire. Put Z's for shows, races or weekends or evening driving. Unless you's loaded.

Not neccessarily true:

But 14, they will fit no problem at all up to 15. YOU WILL NOT BRAKE ANYTHING. But it will be harder on your engine. The bigger your tires, harder it will be for your motor. There for you will be burning a little more gas.

[thoughthard]

Originally Posted by idavid76

Dude, sorry to flame you, but those prices are outrageous! You gotta be an idiot to pay that much for wheel and tire combo. My wheel/tire combo ran me $600 tops, and thats AR wheels with Kumhos, not the best but certainly not the cheapest either.

Canadian money.

[Celler]

Yes, Canadian $$$.

[Celler]

Originally Posted by thoughthard

Dude, sorry to flame you, but those prices are outrageous! You gotta be an idiot to pay that much for wheel and tire combo. My wheel/tire combo ran me $600 tops, and thats AR wheels with Kumhos, not the best but certainly not the cheapest either.

You can get your tires and wheels at different places. Different prices. I am talking about when you are buying each tire and each wheel individually. There are deals you can get the wholesale set of 4 and 4 with high pref tires for 600$. We get those things all the time. I am talking about, if you are really into wheels and tires.

Man I wish, I could add a picture on here, would show you exact wheel and exact price for it. You will see what I am talking about.

[Celler]

Originally Posted by thoughthard

Never seen a 15x5 or a 16x4.5/5 wheel.

Not neccessarily true:

WARNING I would not use Z-rated tires for daily driving. Z-rated tires are made of different rubber compound that wears out 3 times faster then your regular high speed rated low prof tire and about 5 times faster then a regular daily use touring tire. Put Z's for shows, races or weekends or evening driving. Unless you's loaded.

Not neccessarily true:

But 14, they will fit no problem at all up to 15. YOU WILL NOT BRAKE ANYTHING. But it will be harder on your engine. The bigger your tires, harder it will be for your motor. There for you will be burning a little more gas.

My mistake 6/6.5

And Yes Z, V and H will go really fast. They start to chop then the wear will increase and the belt will start to separate. I see if EVERY SINGLE DAY. I have never a seen a daily driver with Z rated tires lasting more then a summer. I am sure you are not running 300+ HP so H will go well for you. Or even lower.

Tercel has a weak motor, and it is a gas saver. That's why it was slapped with 13 inchers, there for by putting on bigger wheel your it till take more gas. NOT A LOT MORE. It will be harder (NOT A LOT HARDER) for your motor to turn bigger wheel. Need for gas will increase. If it was a V6 a gas saver, theoretically speaking. And it originally had 13 inchers. You could put 16's and not feel it.

[Celler]

Originally Posted by idavid76

Dude, sorry to flame you, but those prices are outrageous! You gotta be an idiot to pay that much for wheel and tire combo. My wheel/tire combo ran me $600 tops, and thats AR wheels with Kumhos, not the best but certainly not the cheapest either.

Today we sold a 275/35/19 for 800$ a pop. So can go down from there.

[enerjohn]

I have a 94 Tercel,
I don't know much about rims or tires but various people told me the highest I could go was 17'' on the rims with 205/40/17 tires so thats kinda how it played out but as soon as I hit a moderate bump, I shredded my rear right tire with the fender well.Cost me a new tire and while I was at it, had new rear springs-n-things installed, hammered in that right rear fender well, put in some of those crappy coil spring boosters and called it a day. And I haven't had a problem since. Except for those hard U-turns.



I'd give the whole wheel upgrade an 8 outa 10.

Pros: 17's...what more can I say? I get plenty of compliments.
Alloy rims are way easier to maintain than chrome.
17'' Alloy Roms + 205/40/17 tires = less than $700USD
Only grandma hugs tighter than my tires, I live in Chicago and if you've
seen Batman Returns, you've seen the tight turns of Lower Wacker Drive.
(also featured in Crusin' USA the arcade driving game; as an expert course)
and I can take those turns doing 45-55. ON PAR WITH THE FRIGGIN BATMOBILE!
Those wider tires really help out.

Cons: It took a lot of work just to be able to have 17's on the car,
If I could take it all back I wouldn't, but it would be a close decision.
My rims are multi-piece so that little chrome center cap requires detail
not to mention having to read EVERY wheel cleaner product label to see
whether or not they eat your finish.

Final thoughts: If you got the money and you love your car, why not do it.
Unless you want to do an engine swap first. Some people care
about looks while others care about performance. I'm trying to
do both at the same time on a super tight budget. I'm 29 years old
and I'm a father to SIX children, yes 6 kids and I have a nephew whom
I also live with so I treat him as my own also. With that said, I'm grateful
just to have a computer, with internet to be able to post! Let alone own
the beautiful machine I have.