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Old 11-14-2006, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3E-E Turbo ?

I don't have access to any special engines. I would like to turbocharge my stock 3E-E in my 1993. Before I recieve a thousand engine options, let me clarify. I want to retain the 3E-E. This is a hobby for me. I do not race and I am not competing. Building the 3E-E is like competing against the worst odds. It is a great challenge and thats why I want to do it.

I am going to use custom forged pistons. I am just curious if the crank, rods and block can handle 150-185HP? I want to run about 10 or 12 of maximum boost.

I heard that the carb block (early) is better? Or that the early carb crank is better? Is there any information on this?

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Old 11-15-2006, 12:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds fun!!! i have a 3EE and i too would like to know about this project. let me know what happens, this will be interesting
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Old 11-15-2006, 04:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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might as well get a 3e-te from a 86 corolla/tercel, i forgot which one it is but toyota did make a 3e-te, and 2e-te
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Old 11-15-2006, 08:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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3ete's are quite rare, I do believe. A guy named "qadir03" on TercelOnline turbo'd his 3e, I'm not sure how much boost he is running, but you should search his username on TercelOnline. That should be able to find you some good information.

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Old 11-16-2006, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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actually somebody was selling their 3e-te on TercelOnline... I think they where asking $700 for it fully complete. I would have loved to gotten it if I had that kind of cash, but if I had that kind of cash I would have probably done a lot of othere things. Plus I think I would go 5e-fe. I want good torque and MPG. in theory the 5e-fe has about the same torque as the 3e-e. Although the 3e-e is kind of nice in that it is easy to work on. I like how the springs are visiable, finding TDC on my DOHC GA16DE was impossible. No timing markes on the pully or cover, plus there was very little move ment in the valve spring and the cam weren't marked for TDC. Unfortunatly I don't have a 5E-FE to play with to see if it has this easy of use features that the 3e-e does.
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Old 11-16-2006, 12:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My turbo 3E is almost done now, why bother the the 3ETE, I think you can probably do more with less really.

Quadir has been running 10psi daily on his for over 3 years, he has also got TB injection and a megasquirt using a ford EDIS system. For the first few years he WAS NOT using the EDIS. My setup is using an SDS system a volvo external fuel pump and a cylinder head and intake from the EFI model, as well as 5EFHE rods. Be aware you WILL need a special tool to take the head off any post 1990 Tercel or Paseo.

Go have a look at www.homemadeturbo.com, read all that stuff and you should be able to get started
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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qadir03 is making 130whp on 87 octane. on his turbo engine. Search him over on TO, DAOX on TercelOnline is supercharging his car ask him for help too. Ducky is selling his 3ete on TO. There is a guy on TO claiming about 150hp at the crank with massive N/A mods.
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that seems a lil high for a 3e
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that seems a lil high for a 3e
http://board.tercelonline.com/viewth...7730#pid284911
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'd say go for it. The rods are the weak link in the engine, and the 3E-E rods are the same as the 1st gen 5E-FE rods. Those have been shown to hold up to 180 hp and more in some cases. The drawback of the 3E-E is the head. It simply doesn't flow as much as the 5E-FE so you get less in return for whatever you do to it. IMO go for it and have fun.
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i dont doubt the 130ish hp its the 150 with just a crank mod
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All the parts except the head are identical from the 3E to the 3E-E. None are stronger or weaker. The 3E, 3E-E and 1st gen 5E-FE all share the same crankshaft as well. Also, IMO, I wouldn't even bother with forged pistons.

The guy is estimating 150hp at the crankshaft. He hasn't dynoed it yet. Like Drifter said hes done tons of work to it.

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Old 11-18-2006, 10:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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oh alright, then yes that makes perfect sence
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Ok then. I'm going with a tototally stock engine with 9.3:1 compression ratio. I will run a large T3 turbo. I want to fuel the car with Megasquirt fuel injection. Does anyone know anything about using a megasquirt with a Tercel distributor. Does a tercel distributor only have one magnetic sensor? If so I suppose it could be used on the newest version of Megasquirt fairly easy.

With 6 PSI and an intercooler I should be able to really rip. I should have at least 120hp at the wheels with a garrett T3.

The 3E-E has a long stroke and it has small intake ports, these help the engine produce very good low end torque. Big valves are great, but I would never replace my 3E-E. I've driven dozens of cars, and 16 valve engines do NOT pull out of the hole like my 3E-E. It is a blast to drive, and that is without a turbo!

I don't really need more than 135 crankshaft horsepower in my 1900lb car.... Remember that the peak torque will be about 140 ft lbs at it will come on about TWICE as low as a 16 valve engine, that means it will feel like a V6. That sounds like fun to me.
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qadir03 is making 130whp on 87 octane. on his turbo engine. Search him over on TO, DAOX on TercelOnline is supercharging his car ask him for help too. Ducky is selling his 3ete on TO. There is a guy on TO claiming about 150hp at the crank with massive N/A mods.
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