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Old 11-29-2006, 05:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question New to Paseo, couple of questions

I searched for answers first, I hate to ask a question that has already been answered . My wife and I just bought a new Passat and of course that's "her" car, I wrestled her poorly maintained 92 Paseo from her (recent marriage, I wasn't around to take care of it previously). Okay, so my questions, the clutch lets out late, an adjustment to this on an older celica I had was right at the transmission, is this one under the dash due to a hydraulic or hybrid system for clutch engagement? The idle is also very low, I could adjust the throttle cable but I always prefer to make adjustments on a throttle body when possible, easier to really get the idle you desire. My second question is regarding possiblity of ajusting the TB, if yes, where is the screw?

I am curious, this car has some pep to it, would simple things like a short ram help out power very much or should I just go with a better filter in the stock location? If your rolling a Paseo, what mods have you done and why?

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Old 12-01-2006, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't like Short ram intakes, they sound good but many people experience a drop in mpg which more than offsets the nominal power gain. The idle adjustment screw is right on top of the TB. It is inset, and there might be a plug covering it, but it is there. And yes, the clutch adjustment is on the pedal, you'll see it when you get on the floor and look up there.

On my Paseo, I have done ground control coilovers and KYB shocks because handling is more fun in daily driving than simple bolt ons to me, 15" lightweight wheels and Falken ZX tires for the same reason, short shifter because it greatly improves the feel of shifting and makes the car more enjoyable to drive, Recaro seats because I had them and they are soooo comfortable, Strut bar for better handling, Custom CAI and K&N and 2 1/4" exhaust from the downpipe back (I will be replacing the downpipe as well when I put my Hotshot header on) to let the car breathe a little better, and there are many things I want to do in the future when funds make it more doable.

I also have a 93 Tercel with a 4age, which has many more mods to it (mostly done by BYP) and a 95 Tercel with a custom widebody kit which I'm giving to my brother. The Paseo is my daily, so all mods done to it are to just enhance it's already enjoyable drive. The 20Valver tercel is for night cruising and track days as it's uncomfortable for daily driving due to the solid mounts and 4 puck clutch/9 lb flywheel.
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Old 12-02-2006, 01:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info DJ Silent, I am with you on the short ram thing, I've gone both ways in previous cars, the cold air and the short ram, the short rams are throatier but you do sacrifice miles per gallon for a deeper sound mainly, I will probably just do a factory style k&n filter for now and see what else later, unless I get a wild hair and build myself a cold air out of some tubing I have laying around the garage . I had looked around for lowering options as I'm more about cornering than outright drag type stuff but didn't find much (albeit didn't look too hard yet either). First thing is that the engine burns a little oil and leaks a tad so I'll probably get a seal kit and do a minor overhaul on the engine, freshen it a tad, compression is still good so i don't need to do too much. I haven't really looked but I assume that this is a 4x100 pattern for wheels so many options there for better feet.

Again, thanks for the info, anxious to hear about what others have done with these little wonders.
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acually the cold air isnt worth it unless you have ACIS, and even then it robs power. it doesnt suck enough to pulll through a cold air system. ram air with a cyro will suck more volume and colder
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dsilent, I am looking for a header for my 96 Paseo and saw that you had a Hotshot. I went to their website but couldn't find an aplication for the Paseo. Can you help me out?
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They are getting rare. pacesetter is still a good header but OBX is coming up through the ranks. check'em out
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If the 92 Paseo is like the 92 Tercel, and the clutch engages when the pedal is too high, you should look up at the top of the clutch pedal. When you push the pedal down, the pedal pushes a metal rod into the firewall, into the master cylinder. You can adjust the freeplay between the pedal and that rod (loosen the locknut, then twist the rod, then re-tighten the locknut). If there is zero freeplay, there is a danger that the clutch will not engage properly at all, which could cause it to wear, and slip, and wear some more, etc. The more freeplay, the lower the clutch engagement point.
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I am curious, this car has some pep to it, would simple things like a short ram help out power very much or should I just go with a better filter in the stock location? If your rolling a Paseo, what mods have you done and why?

Thanks in advance folks!
So far, I have a custom CAI, B&G springs with KYB GR2's, Miata rims & HID's. Some minor body mods.. basically i want the car enjoyable. I'll be adding more suspension mods to it along with finishing the body work. On order, I have an ACIS on the way along with some JDM power folding mirrors. Personally, in stock form - I would say the Paseo and Tercels that have a 5e powerplant have some pep to it. The only downside is that they don't have much aftermarket support - and you're limited to only have so much done to it versus a Honda Civic. Honestly, I think even the corolla's of that generation may have a bit more aftermarket support than the paseo. There just wasn't a whole load of demand as the car is biased to be labelled a girl's car. Granted, most of the paseo's I see driven locally around here are by women or old men. Only once have I seen one dropped with rims, and another with an exhaust. There's been rumors of a red turbo paseo near my parts of town, but I haven't run into him yet, but it's been confirmed that the guy's somewhere around...

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acually the cold air isnt worth it unless you have ACIS, and even then it robs power. it doesnt suck enough to pulll through a cold air system. ram air with a cyro will suck more volume and colder
I agree with this 80%. My only arguement on this fact (this is the 20% that doesn't agree), is that it didn't necessarily rob power from the powerband, but simply took power from the bottom end, and put it on the top end. my CAI seems to have improved my gas mileage by a little, but as far as making consistent power that I can rely on in all weather conditions - I'd very much would rather have a stock intake box with a filter - plus, the stock box doesn't make too much extra noise, nor does it take power and put it somewhere else. Nor will it attract attention...

BUT, if you want a little bit more noise (under acceleration), without the rumble of an exhaust, I would highly recommend getting a CAI, not short ram as the sound isn't as "crisp"... all in all, (here's the 80%) an intake won't do you much good without a header and exhaust as it's sucking in more air than it can put out. Try breathing in deep breaths, and let out only 75% of it. Theoretically, this feeling is the same your motor feels over extensive periods of time - hence the term "tired motor".
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not that this would work by any means but its idea to put a reverse turbo at the intake so the sucking of the intake also pulls the exhaust faster to create forced breathing of the engine
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not that this would work by any means but its idea to put a reverse turbo at the intake so the sucking of the intake also pulls the exhaust faster to create forced breathing of the engine
isn't this theory closely related to the leafblower injection?
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yeah kinda but the intake sucks the turbine forcing the compressing to blow the exhaust out
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not that this would work by any means but its idea to put a reverse turbo at the intake so the sucking of the intake also pulls the exhaust faster to create forced breathing of the engine
you always make me every time you post something
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acually the cold air isnt worth it unless you have ACIS, and even then it robs power. it doesnt suck enough to pulll through a cold air system. ram air with a cyro will suck more volume and colder
Sorry, but I totally disagree with this. It makes no sense at all. First off ACIS has nothing to do with a cold air intake system. Second, if your cold air intake system is creating too much restriction (IE it can't suck enough) you simply enlarge the tubing to reduce the restriction. In addition, the length of the tubing is also a factor in tuning and short usually isn't the best route. I guess you could say a poorly designed cold air intake isn't worth it, but thats pretty redundant. Anything thats poorly designed isn't worth it.
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First off ACIS has nothing to do with a cold air intake system.
I was talking about the diameter of the TB and the size of the chamber of the intake manifold in which the volume of air can pass through.
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Second, if your cold air intake system is creating too much restriction (IE it can't suck enough) you simply enlarge the tubing to reduce the restriction. In addition, the length of the tubing is also a factor in tuning and short usually isn't the best route.
less restriction means more air volume, but less vacuum to suck in the air (IE speed that the air travels into the engine) when it comes to longer tubing. Volume of air is a key factor in making an intake work. short, long, big diameter or smaller diameter tubing, doesnt matter as long as you hit your target air volume and air speed. I am not saying a cold air system would be horrible for our engines, just not practical for the length/diameter factor to achieve best resaults How Stuff Works
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I guess you could say a poorly designed cold air intake isn't worth it, but thats pretty redundant. Anything thats poorly designed isn't worth it.
You're preaching to the choir on that one
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