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Old 06-17-2005, 12:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need to swap my 3A engine..*pic inside*

What Engine would fit in my 81 tercel ?? ive looked around these forums and i seen people say 4A and 4age....can i get more info on how i can get a hold of these motors? like a junkyard??




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Old 06-17-2005, 04:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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..im trying to do the same thing basically.but in an 82.i havent had much luck either.as far as i know you can get 4age motors out of like 85and up corrollas?mr2s? you will have to switch from carb to efi.is your car front or rear wheel?the A series motors are from what i hear an easy swap.the 4age comes in lots of different hps over the years but i guess its the best bang for the buck.do you know of any other 1.5-2.0L possible engines?????
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Old 06-18-2005, 10:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, I would also say that a 4AGE is your best bet.

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Old 06-20-2005, 03:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How much should i spend on a motor like the 4a-ge ?
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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2nd Generation

early models of corrolla (usually gts)had the 4age.from a wrecker it shouldnt be more than like 500 for one of those engines,but the thing is the age of the wrecker motors.you can get newer 4ages but i think they may only be RWd,like in the mr2s and what not.I dont believe i have access to sprinter motors but if your in the states they may be available there,sprinters also came with a transverse fwd layout.from what i seen our best bet is the 16 valve blue and black top from the earlier models.the engine is rated at 118hp new so you can probably get about 100 out of a used one.there are newer 20 valve engines but im not clear on if they are transversely mounted fwd layouts.if they are than there is chrome top boasting like 160hp.these engines if we can even use them, are probably pretty costly.im curious to find out what the regular 4a came in because switching to efi from carb is time consuming and can be costly if you dont get the loom with the engine.anywho i hope this helps.dr.tweak anything you might be able to add.....

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Old 06-25-2005, 04:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i just listed a few clutch parts that will make the 4age swap into a 4wd tercel a snap. BTW the 3ac engine mounts work on the 4age like there ment to be there. all you'd have to worry about is the fuel and ignition, cooling. also, FWD or RWD 4age's will swap in the same if you use your 3ac mounts.

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Old 06-26-2005, 05:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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all you'd have to worry about is the fuel and ignition, cooling.
im assuming you already did this swap before?? and how would i be able to fix these problems, i need as much help as i could get...this my first swap
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Old 06-26-2005, 06:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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that 4 age website has all the cooling,fuel problems and what not on it and how to take care of all of it.im telling you its invaluable!
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I just bought and machined my clutch parts to do the 4age swap into my 83' 4wd tercel. But It wouldn;t pass smog and I don;t feel like fixing it, I'll just park it and use parts for my 85' 4wd tercel. I'm putting the 4age that i built into my 72' pinto that doesnt have to be smogged and is currently registered and had a bad motor anyway. Basicly the 4age will bolt right into the 3ac's place except for the 3ac uses a 6 bolt 7.5" flywheel and the 4age uses an 8 bolt 8 3/8" flywheel and the larger one doesn;t fit into the bell housing of the tercel. So basicly with the clutch parts I have you can drop a 4age in using the mounts off of the 3ac, but you;d have to figure out how to fuel, spark and cool it. not too much work really.
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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nice car man im currently putting the 4age into my rally car the only thing i want to do besides that is throw turbo in it is this possible?
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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there is a stock turbo application,4agze,you probably knew that already.ive just heard that the tranny ,k50 can not handle the swap because of too much power from the turbo..but depending on how new of a 4age you throw in it you can probably boost power without needing a turbo.the silvertop is aready like 140hp or something.and owning an old tercel myself i know what 140hp would be like in such a little car.fast.especially if you lighten it further.as far as the tranny i havent heard of a more beefy model available that you can use in the swap.honestly though you are gonna be swappin parts left right and center if you rallying so whats 5 trannys in the long run...i just bought a k50 for 72.50 so the cost of it is really low.im curious to see if the thing will hold out under boost or if the little cel would just shake itself apart......is your car front or rear?what year?
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have the 3A-C version, and it suits me pretty well.

The engine is tired, and I'll need to find a replacement very soon.

Hope things go alright with your engine swap.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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price 4 age

I've seen 4 age selling for 250 to 450 in buy and sell paper under parts,wrecking import, engines. cheep
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"nice car man im currently putting the 4age into my rally car the only thing i want to do besides that is throw turbo in it is this possible?"

It's definitely possible, although if the turbo is not application specific, you may find yourself having custom manifolds, fittings, etc. made for this car!
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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is your car front or rear wheel?
NO Tercel was EVER RWD.
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