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Old 07-25-2009, 03:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A while ago, I took apart the throttle body and IAC on my 1997 3.4L T-100 4wd as was suggested for high idle that dropped only when revving the engine. It's been frustrating trying to get the idle to idle instead of staying at 15K when coasting in neutral or at a stop. I cleaned the MAF, throttle body and IAC, put on a new gasket at the throttle body and a new rubber gasket where the IAC joins the throttle body. I started the truck cold and it took 5 min to come to idle (800rpm). However, once I take it for a drive, the idle sticks at 13-15K when coming to a stop. I rev it and it drops to 800. Still no idle relief. Prior to putting everything back together, I hooked up the IAC to a 12v battery and got the roller to open some and close when disconnecting power. How much is it supposed to open with power applied...in other words when do I know if it's time to replace it? or can anyone think of another reason for the high idle?
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Try taking the motor off and rotating the IAC valve shaft with yer fingers. You shouldn't have to take the throttle body off to do this test. The electric motor is held on with 2 philips screws.
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instead of staying at 15K...
Formula 1 motor in that thing?
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And now for a more helpful comment. have you looked at the TPS ?
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Testing TPS

Sorry about the typo....I meant idle sticks at 1500+ rpm

How will I know if the TPS is bad?
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Sorry about the typo....I meant idle sticks at 1500+ rpm

How will I know if the TPS is bad?
I'm with ya. Seem like TPS is defective. IAC wouldn't behave like that after it's warmed up. Get a book and it'll tell you how to test it. You'll need test meter around $40 will do.
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TPS is tested with a multi-meter, you'll need a service manual for the numbers of what it should spec out at.
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I'll try to find a service book (library maybe?) or is there anybody out there with a book that is able to tell me the multimeter test specs for the leads on the TPS....?
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You can often find shop manuals at the library, not sure if TPS specs would be in there or if you need a FSM.
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Throttle fully closed - VTA to E2 = 0.2 - 5.7K ohms
Throttle fully open - VTA to E2 = 2.0 - 10.2K ohms
----------------------- VC to E2 = 2.5 - 5.9K ohms

E2 is the top termainal of the TPS connector
VC is the middle terminal
VTA is the bottom terminal
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Gee wheeze, it only cost $20. You'll spend more than that on gas and beside it has more important info in there like "how to change motor oil".
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Wink

I would still pull the electrical motor on the IAC and physically rotate that valve shaft while spraying some cleaner through the port. It's highly unlikely the electrical motor has gone bad...it's yer call...

TPS...
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_199....html?hl=89452

From ToyotaPartSales.com...
Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
8945235020 $59.56 $0.00 $46.55
Electrical - Powertrain control - Throttle position sensor
Throttle position sensor, t100, 6 cylinder 1997 - 1998

IAC...
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_199....html?hl=22270

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Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
2227062050 $248.47 $0.00 $194.19
Fuel system - Fuel induction - Fuel injection - Idle speed control
Idle speed control, t100, 6 cylinder 1997 - 1998

Factory service manual on eBay...fer about $105 shipped...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=310111059987

...or about $90 shipped...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=390050524944

Electrical wiring diagram...fer about $30 shipped...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=390048399744
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I would still pull the electrical motor on the IAC and physically rotate that valve shaft while spraying some cleaner through the port. It's highly unlikely the electrical motor has gone bad...it's yer call...

TPS...
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_199....html?hl=89452

From ToyotaPartSales.com...
Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
8945235020 $59.56 $0.00 $46.55
Electrical - Powertrain control - Throttle position sensor
Throttle position sensor, t100, 6 cylinder 1997 - 1998

IAC...
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_U_199....html?hl=22270

From ToyotaPartSales.com
Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
2227062050 $248.47 $0.00 $194.19
Fuel system - Fuel induction - Fuel injection - Idle speed control
Idle speed control, t100, 6 cylinder 1997 - 1998

Factory service manual on eBay...fer about $105 shipped...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310111059987

...or about $90 shipped...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390050524944

Electrical wiring diagram...fer about $30 shipped...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390048399744

Autozone has the knock-off service manual for $20
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Throttle fully closed - VTA to E2 = 0.2 - 5.7K ohms
Throttle fully open - VTA to E2 = 2.0 - 10.2K ohms
----------------------- VC to E2 = 2.5 - 5.9K ohms

E2 is the top termainal of the TPS connector
VC is the middle terminal
VTA is the bottom terminal
You knew that off the top of your head for a 5vze or what?
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TPS test

Great info folks, thanks a lot for all the input.
Forgive me if this seems like a dumb question...
Throttle open- I take that to mean manually opening the throttle where the cable connects to the throttle body with the engine off?
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