Alright this may have been posted before but I can't find it. The manual drives me nuts. Just says capacities with or without the towing package. Well the towing package is just the difference between a hitch and a bumper hitch (and yes some other add ons that don't affect capacity). Most other trucks I have owned will give you the towing capacites based on engine, body style, transmission and rear axle ratio. Is this information availible from toyota anywhere?
I don't have the towing package, but I am putting a hitch on and I want to know where my limits are. If I had the V6 manual I wouldn't even hesitate to pull 6 - 7k lbs. But I have a manual four banger for economy reasons and I want to know my limit so I can decided on a few things. Is the trucks limit itself just 6500k lbs and then its up to if my engine can pull it or not? or is there a lower limit for the 4 banger. Regardless I will push the limits someday I am sure but I would like to know what they are. I know I won't be pulling a 7500lbs bobcat on my 2500lbs trailer any day soon but there are other things I would like to cart around.
Just says capacities with or without the towing package. Well the towing package is just the difference between a hitch and a bumper hitch (and yes some other add ons that don't affect capacity). Most other trucks I have owned will give you the towing capacites based on engine, body style, transmission and rear axle ratio. Is this information availible from toyota anywhere?
Expect it to be very low. At the toyota.com website, click trucks, click tacoma, click specifications, click capacities, the std rating is only 3500#. The max towing capacity is also 3500#,with a V6 with a tow package.
Per trailer boat magazine the I4 was only rated for 3500#, with a tow package, while the V6 was 6500# See the last page of this link.
In my world, the tranny cooler and supplemental engine oil cooler do affect capacity, as I have to tow up hill to get to anywhere with usable water, other than across the street. The up hill towing capacity is greatly affected by oil cooling capabilities. I realize that around Indy you don't have big mountains to get over to get to water, so they may not have much affect in your world. The standard legalese BS says they have to tell you what it can tow under "normal" conditions, which for you or folks in Florida may not be as important.
My Sienna's manual said its rating without a tow package was 1000#, with a tow package and trailer brakes, it went up to 3500#.
So, lots of rambling to say expect it to be less than 3500#, more likely under 2000#.
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See the site just says 3500 and 6500 does not specify which is which. I would expect the I4 4x4 to tow more than the I4 2x4 (due to vehicle curb weight)
And a tranny cooler only affects automatic transmissions (though I agree with your point). Oil cooler I could go either way on, never had one and never needed one.
Battery and alternator are not going to affect capacity. The hitch will but thats a given. I would just prefer to see more specific information. Usually different body styles affect the towing capacity too as wheelbases and curb weight change.
Maybe toyota just is telling us if you have a V6 with the towing package its 6500 and if you have a I4 no mater what its 3500???
I expect it to be low with the I4, would just like to have a better guideline. Guess will just have to test it and see how it does under various conditions starting around 2.5k lbs.
When I was looking it seemed like the tow package added a LOT of extra pulling capacity.
which is rediculous cause the as stated above the tow package really doesn't add anything that allows the truck to pull more weight or stop more weight. brakes are the same. Engine is the same. The oil and tranny coolers will help prolong the life of parts but thats not affecting the capacity. I run tranny coolers on all auto trannies I have even if I don't tow just cause I abuse them. But can't you get a V6 without the towing package which then is telling you that you can only tow 3500 lbs because you don't have a larger alternator?
My point is there just isn't enough detail, but I guess this truck is not marketed for that sort of consumer. I just like more information and I can't be the only one?
which is rediculous cause the as stated above the tow package really doesn't add anything that allows the truck to pull more weight or stop more weight. brakes are the same. Engine is the same. The oil and tranny coolers will help prolong the life of parts but thats not affecting the capacity. I run tranny coolers on all auto trannies I have even if I don't tow just cause I abuse them. But can't you get a V6 without the towing package which then is telling you that you can only tow 3500 lbs because you don't have a larger alternator?
My point is there just isn't enough detail, but I guess this truck is not marketed for that sort of consumer. I just like more information and I can't be the only one?
Maybe the tranny coolers stop the oil from heating up too much and causing slippage when trying to tow the heavier load?
But, yeah I was surprised the difference too. Seems like the website said 3500 for non-tow package, and 6500 for tow package. But, like you said, I don't see the difference between the two that would allow the increase either....
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The V6 towing package includes a class IV hitch. It is the hitch (10,000 lbs rating) limited by the suspension components and engine power that gives it a 6500lbs rating. 3500 lbs is what the max. rating for towing on the bumper is.
OK, looking through the sales brochure, it lists Std tow capacity as 3500# for all models. Max tow capacity is 6500#, requires the tow package, not available on regular cab and access cab 4x2 and Xrunner. TOngue load is 350 without /650 with tow package
So, 6500 lbs with 650 tongue is all doublecabs, and access cab prerunner and access cab 4x4.
Brochure makes no mention of Heavy Duty clutch on the engine fan, same items I listed.
Yes, you can get a V6 without the tow package, but they claim the 3500# max that way.
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Don't you mean 3500 std, 6500 with the V6 and tow package? IIRC the tow package bumped it from 3500 to 6500.... Or from something to 6500.
When I was looking it seemed like the tow package added a LOT of extra pulling capacity.
No, what I meant was, I was looking at the I4 truck, which Taxx says he has, which lists 3500# regular and 3500# max, no tow package available. Unfortunately, I edited this many times before posting, and somehow fubared the tow package into the I4 part. Yes the tow package does add, but only if you have the V6.
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I need to get a sales brochure cause the manual and the website don't give enough info.
I guess they are saying even with a manual without tow package in a V6 its still 3500, which makes no sense at all based on the tow package details. Sure an oil cooler is a nice thing to have and a good idea but that shouldn't affect capacity too much. Oh well who am I to argue with the engineers....
I just feel there should be a better breakdown somewhere. But like I said before I doubt the target market is aimed at people that care about that. Probably a very small percentage of anyone with these trucks thats gonna tow more than 3500 even with the V6....
I just got it for a daily driver but like to know the spechs cause you never know
which is rediculous cause the as stated above the tow package really doesn't add anything that allows the truck to pull more weight or stop more weight.
That blurb doesn't mention it, but I thought that the towing package also added the trailer brake control harness, which can allow the truck to stop more weight.
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That blurb doesn't mention it, but I thought that the towing package also added the trailer brake control harness, which can allow the truck to stop more weight.
true... there is that too... I forgot about the extra braking power if you use that.
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Straight to the point, here in canada toyota doesn't offer the 4 cylinder so i can't say.
V6 is rated for 3500 lbs bumper towing, and 5000 lbs when you install a hitch. The towing package ups the capacity to 6500lbs.
Straight to the point, here in canada toyota doesn't offer the 4 cylinder so i can't say.
V6 is rated for 3500 lbs bumper towing, and 5000 lbs when you install a hitch. The towing package ups the capacity to 6500lbs.
Ummm... what?? You can tow 3500# without installing a hitch?
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