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Old 12-05-2006, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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USA 4 wd locking up

Problem with 4WD. When I'm in 4WD and trying to turn slowly like wehn torning into parking space the wheels lock. I have to give it a lot of gas to move. When it does move the rear wheels slip and grab. Proble is worse in reverse. I have to straughten the wheel sometimes to move at all.

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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4wd should only be used on surfaces in which you can/will lose traction, you are putting a lot of undue force on the differentials buy using it on dry pavement
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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4wd should only be used on surfaces in which you can/will lose traction, you are putting a lot of undue force on the differentials buy using it on dry pavement
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You're front differential is binding up because one side spins faster than the other and it can't because it's getting TOO much traction.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You're not the first.

http://toyotanation.com/forum/t133404.html

http://toyotanation.com/forum/t117531.html

It's okay. I doubt you hurt anything. Don't use 4WD on dry pavement, even rain is not really slick enough.
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You're not the first.

http://toyotanation.com/forum/t133404.html

http://toyotanation.com/forum/t117531.html

It's okay. I doubt you hurt anything. Don't use 4WD on dry pavement, even rain is not really slick enough.
I'm actually guilty of this. I did this in my older Toyota. Glad I didn't break anything.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i'm reading this and he is in MA. it's probably snowing up there, thus the need for 4wd. think about the 4wd system. when you have it in 4wd, the front wheels turn, obviously. the front wheels are connected to the front axle via cv axles. when you turn this causes a binding effect in the cv's. this basically makes it harder for them to turn, so, you have to give them more gas. when you give it more gas, the rear axles are still turning at the same rate, so, your ass end will come around on you. the best thing to do is, when you get to your parking space, take it out of 4wd before you get there, then turn in. no problem with the 4wd system, that's just the way it is.
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All good advice above. Honestly if you don't know, we can't blame you, even the manual does a crappy job of explaning to owners of when 'not' use 4wd.

At same time don't be afraid to use 4wd. Thats what you paid the extra $2K and carry an additional 250 lbs for.
Driving through squalls or constantly changing road conditions like snow to dry road and back, you don't have to continually shift in and out. Just use common sense, easy to moderate turns in 4wd even on a dry/wet road won't bind. But as said if your gonna turn hard on dry, put her in 2wd.
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I'm in MA and we have no snow on the ground. He must be talking about using it on dry ground, or at least not enough to let the wheels slip, because we haven't had any snow stick to the ground yet up here in northeast MA. I'm betting he tried it out on dry ground and that's why the wheels were binding up. If there is too much traction, the wheels will have to skip or spin in order for the diff to work correctly since the inside front wheel on the turn is traveling a much shorter distance than the back wheel on the other side.
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This situation occured all last winter during snow storms. My driveway is where it is the biggest nuisance. I have to turn left, up a slight incline then buck up, then turn once again to enter my garage. This is where i get hung up. I have to use 4Wd & turn or I can't get enough traction to get into my garage.
Also I thought the manual suggests that we run in 4WD once in a while to keep the fluids libricating. Turning would not be neccessary though I agree with you there.
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This situation occured all last winter during snow storms. My driveway is where it is the biggest nuisance. I have to turn left, up a slight incline then buck up, then turn once again to enter my garage. This is where i get hung up. I have to use 4Wd & turn or I can't get enough traction to get into my garage.
Also I thought the manual suggests that we run in 4WD once in a while to keep the fluids libricating. Turning would not be neccessary though I agree with you there.
Thanks for the replys and please keep them coming.

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Try to make the widest arch you can, if possible. On my property, I have same problem pulling my trailer uphill on grass into the road. I have to use 4wd to get up, but once front wheels are on pavement, they can bind. But I can't shut 4wd off as rear tires still on uphill slippery slope. So I make a big arching turn to reduce any bind.
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This situation occured all last winter during snow storms. My driveway is where it is the biggest nuisance. I have to turn left, up a slight incline then buck up, then turn once again to enter my garage. This is where i get hung up. I have to use 4Wd & turn or I can't get enough traction to get into my garage.


You need 4WD to pull into your garage?

I'm sorry but that's hilarious. I guess I don't understand the dilemma. How do you need to use 4x4 and yet your wheels have no opportunity to slip and break free?

It's one or the other. It is impossible to be both.

Do you have any kids? Why aren't they shoveling your driveway? Break out some kitty litter or something.

Sorry if I sound insensitive but I think your understanding of 4WD is a little foggy.
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Old 12-05-2006, 02:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I've had 94 Toyota 4WD for 11 years before my 2005, same house, never had this problem. I understand 4Wd. Hilarious!
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94 was shorter so you didn't have to cut the wheel as hard maybe?
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I have to say that I'm not too happy with the way the 4WD system works on this truck. Last winter, I was in a SNOWY parking lot in 4WD, turned into a parking spot and the truck stopped like I had hit the brakes! This was ON SNOW. It's silly that they don't put a limited slip in there.

I know now that I can gass it a little in that type of situation, but it's still unnerving and makes me cautious about using the 4WD.

Good thing I've got A/T Revos. I get plenty of traction in most snow/ice/slippery conditions!! You barely NEED 4WD with those tires!
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I have to say that I'm not too happy with the way the 4WD system works on this truck. Last winter, I was in a SNOWY parking lot in 4WD, turned into a parking spot and the truck stopped like I had hit the brakes! This was ON SNOW. It's silly that they don't put a limited slip in there.

I know now that I can gass it a little in that type of situation, but it's still unnerving and makes me cautious about using the 4WD.

Good thing I've got A/T Revos. I get plenty of traction in most snow/ice/slippery conditions!! You barely NEED 4WD with those tires!
Wow...wow
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