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Old 12-11-2006, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Donahoe Coilovers VS ToyTec OME Lift

I'm running a 3" ToyTec OME coil lift with 285/70/17 BFG ATs. In general the ride quality is fine on the street but when I get into any kind of rough terrain, even just potholes on paved, the suspension really seems to slam on impact. The OME coils are still paired with my stock TRD Bilstiens. Is this slamming on impact something that everyone with this setup experiences and just accepts. I'm really thinking of investing the money and going with a full coilover setup (it seems that the Donahoes are well thought of among the posts). So I guess my question is, would the ride quality be notibly improved with the coilovers? Would I still be slamming on moderate impact even with coilovers? Any insight here would be a big help as I don't want to fork out the $1K unless it would provide significantly better ride quality over my current setup. Thanks...
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Definitely go with the coilovers! If you can afford it, they're well worth the money. Improved ride quality on and off-road!
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am actually installing the Toytec OME lift with the front OME shocks... I'll let you know how it does...
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You don't think better shocks would help at all?
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The D-hoes would ride much better, but the secret to the D-hoe coilovers is not in the coil but in the shock tuning. If you got yourself some nice bilstein shocks or even the OME shocks to match your coils your ride would more then likely be much improved.
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Old 12-11-2006, 08:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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if you go for donahoes, it will ride smooth on the preset settings. once you start cranking them higher, the ride is gonna be rougher
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The problem is that with the stock shock and UCA's They are at their maximum extension. The only way to correct this issue is the get aftermarket UCA's and longer shocks. Bilsteins are coming out with adjustable ride height shocks. Or you can get the longer shocks that Toytec sell on their website. Coils are coils! Adventure North is correct! It is your shocks.
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The problem is that with the stock shock and UCA's They are at their maximum extension. The only way to correct this issue is the get aftermarket UCA's and longer shocks. Bilsteins are coming out with adjustable ride height shocks. Or you can get the longer shocks that Toytec sell on their website. Coils are coils! Adventure North is correct! It is your shocks.

it is the combination of the two, coils have different spring rates which can make a big difference. remember coils react to position, where shocks react to speed. great shocks don't mean crap without good coils. Even the best quarterback needs good receivers to be successful.
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it is the combination of the two, coils have different spring rates which can make a big difference. remember coils react to position, where shocks react to speed. great shocks don't mean crap without good coils. Even the best quarterback needs good receivers to be successful.
To a certain degree you are right. But I was addressing his question of the suspension slam.

The coils will determine the ride quality. (Stiff or soft) But the slamming that he is asking about is being caused by the stock shocks and UCA's. Being at it's limit.
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Thanks for all the comments. It sounds like I'm after a better matchup between the coils and the shocks. I think I'll just put the money down for the Donahoes. Anyone know who's offering a good price on these, maybe even a package price with some good control arms? If I can find a god package price it seems I'm better off going with both. However, it also seems that the control arms are only a factor when I'm hitting the outerbounds of my travel. Am I correct in assuming that other than those situations, the stock TRD arms would be fine?
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Thanks for all the comments. It sounds like I'm after a better matchup between the coils and the shocks. I think I'll just put the money down for the Donahoes. Anyone know who's offering a good price on these, maybe even a package price with some good control arms? If I can find a god package price it seems I'm better off going with both. However, it also seems that the control arms are only a factor when I'm hitting the outerbounds of my travel. Am I correct in assuming that other than those situations, the stock TRD arms would be fine?
LOL!! NO! If you lift your truck you will need the UCA's to get the correct caster when you align you truck.
No matter which lift you choose? You will need the UCA's.
Donahoes are great if you plan on changing the ride height of your truck, from time to time. It's there adjustability that is there big selling point.
ToyTec is a good kit if you don't need to change height. Just buy some good shocks. At least you won't need to frequent the alignment shop.

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And Remember to post pics. when you're done!!
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Actually it depends on how high you want to go with your lift. With only 2" of lift I was able to get my alignment dead nuts on factory specs. The consensus seems to be that most guys are ok up to 2.5" of lift, any higher then that and getting the caster right becomes next to impossible with the stock UCA.

Adjustability is a nice feature with an adjustable coilover but it doesn't end there, at least not for me. The biggest selling point aside from their reputation was the huge 2.5" shock body. With the shock being that big shock fade should never be a problem at least not on a truck like ours, that and Donahoe really knows how to set up a shock. I'm not sure what the valving numbers are, I would guess kinda high maybe in the 250 to 280/70 to 80 range, but there is no doubt they got the rebound and compression rates dead nuts on, for my application anyway.
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