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Muddskipper · 12-13-2006, 10:00 AM

How good is your motor oil?

I’ve read all the debates here on the site.

The one thing I know for sure is we all have are own opinions on what’s the best oil is and when to change it.

Well I am going to leave it up to the professionals.

Actually I'm going to leave it up to the scientist.

Since we all have different driving conditions and a number of different factors like filters, intervals when we change our oils and other things, One brand and one person can’t be right for all of us.

So in comes Blackstone-labs

Blackstone-labs have been doing this for 20+ years.

They test samples of your oil and give detailed results.

And it cost like $20 for a test.

I have not used them yet, but hey, $20 is a drop in the bucket for what I am getting out of my truck.

I will be doing various tests that pertain to my driving, in my conditions, on 2 or 3 brands of oils.

It may be a year from now but I will post up my results.

Don’t wait for me, do your own

www.Blackstone-labs.com

boone · 12-13-2006, 10:05 AM

"The best Jerry, the best."

Already tested Amsoil ASL and Castrol SYNTEC 0W-30 Gold. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2090989/5

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cj99si · 12-13-2006, 12:57 PM

Im Going to keep useing mobile 1 and im not going to worry about it. I have enough to worry about.

I had mobil one in my civic Si, when I got a hole in my oil pan and drained it completely. I drove about 5 miles (not knowing) with it completly empty. I tore the engine down for some mods and there wasnt a scratch on the cylinder walls or the cams. It drove another 45k (before someone totaled it for me) miles without a single problem. Seeing 9k rpm several times a day

it had 110k miles on it.

And im sure any good synthetic will work just fine.

cj99si · 12-13-2006, 01:00 PM

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He's a sales man.

Fitz235 · 12-13-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boone

"The best Jerry, the best."

Mendie's is pretty good too. I recommend getting the soup.

Major Woods · 12-13-2006, 02:39 PM

I have never heard of a documented motor failure due to "bad oil" from a major name brand, have you? Put in the oil required by your owners manual and forget about it.
Much to do about nothing

TucsonTRD · 12-13-2006, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddskipper

How good is your motor oil?

I’ve read all the debates here on the site.

The one thing I know for sure is we all have are own opinions on what’s the best oil is and when to change it.

Well I am going to leave it up to the professionals.

Actually I'm going to leave it up to the scientist.

Since we all have different driving conditions and a number of different factors like filters, intervals when we change our oils and other things, One brand and one person can’t be right for all of us.

So in comes Blackstone-labs

Blackstone-labs have been doing this for 20+ years.

They test samples of your oil and give detailed results.

And it cost like $20 for a test.

I have not used them yet, but hey, $20 is a drop in the bucket for what I am getting out of my truck.

I will be doing various tests that pertain to my driving, in my conditions, on 2 or 3 brands of oils.

It may be a year from now but I will post up my results.

Don’t wait for me, do your own

www.Blackstone-labs.com

wtf is this? are you trying to sell us on blackstone? cause that is some cheesy shit you just posted. quit wasting our time, we know about blackstone already, and respect them. don't come in here with the door-to-door salesman bullshit.

Bamboo · 12-13-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TucsonTRD

wtf is this? are you trying to sell us on blackstone? cause that is some cheesy shit you just posted. quit wasting our time, we know about blackstone already, and respect them. don't come in here with the door-to-door salesman bullshit.

+1

forbye · 12-13-2006, 09:38 PM

for cryin' out loud...lighten up

Jacobi · 12-13-2006, 10:16 PM

Yeah, damn, lighten up! Some people on here think they're shit is golden and that anyone that doesn't have the same level of knowledge or grammatical format as them is mentally handicapped.

Anways, I've read alot about Blackstone Labs and in fact there was a guy on my Camaro site, LS1.com, that actually used his car to test oil for the entire life of the car. I'm not sure how to find his page (I haven't searched, but it'd probably be easy) but if you do, post a link to it here.

-Barry-

P.S. Blackstone Labs is the best oil testing site on this planet. Everyone should use it, and if you don't you're retarded.

Muddskipper · 12-14-2006, 08:00 AM

Boone thanks your input.

I enjoyed the read. Did a search and did'nt come up with any info so sorry if offended some of you out there.
I dont work for the company, just thought it was intresting and wanted to share.
BTW
I will be testing RED LINE and i will be curious how it matches up with Amsoil and Castrol

msibille · 12-14-2006, 08:15 AM

Don't mind the grinches. Keep on keeping on.
Those that are more interested in facts rather than emotion will be looking forward to what you bring us.

As for dino vs. synthetic and OEM maint schedule vs. UOA supported extended drain - yeah, lighten up guys. There's enough room for everyone. Some of us can't see any value in changing functional wheels and tires in order to put on 20" chromed wheels and an extra 300 lb of rubber -but all that matters is that the guy who is spending the money sees the value. So, if you want to use dino and change at OEM maint sched intervals -cool. If you want to spend more money on synth because you feel it's an "extra margin of safety" for your engine-fine. And if you want to extend intervals by using UOA to determine what is safe -great. There's room for all -though I do get a little irritated by those that chant a mantra without anything other than "JoeDufus said..."

Looking forward to your results.
As for me, I run dino (at least for now) at the OEM intervals and am doing an occasional UOA just to see what the capabilities are (under my driving). To me, I would have to get 3-4 times the interval in an oil change to justify synthetic +UOA, and with my low mileage/year, I would still want to change because of calendar time.

SlaveToTheNeedl · 12-14-2006, 08:27 AM

This site is my benchmark for determining the FACTS VS BULLSHIT about lubricants.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

With OIL FILTERS here is an informative site:
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...lterstudy.html

I use REDLINE for certain applications: Jetski engines for xample. As for car and truck engines MOBIL 1 and a MOBIL 1 filter or PUROLATOR PURE 1 filter is my choice. The PURE 1 is IMHO best best filter for the money. MOBIL 1 filters are top quality but overpriced. Surprisingly the best "bang for buck" is the WAL MART OIL FILTERS!
WORST OIL FILTER?: FRAM BY FAR!!

boone · 12-14-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SlaveToTheNeedl

With OIL FILTERS here is an informative site:
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...lterstudy.html

That oil filter study is a good reference but it's about 6 years out of date. The players have remained the same but most of them are now using different technology.

You need to be careful with PureOne filters. They filter unbelievably but they don't flow very well. A filter that doesn't flow well has a better chance of going into bypass mode. Thus that 99% efficiency rating doesn't do you much good.

Best bang for your buck IMO would be Wix. I prefer something a little more high end. Great deal as long as you plan ahead by about 2 weeks. http://toyotanation.com/forum/t153712.html

boone · 12-14-2006, 09:39 AM

This is a much better site IMO and it's only 2 years out of date: http://www.oilfilterstudy.com/