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Old 06-23-2007, 09:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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One-piece driveshaft with STOCK suspension

I've been putting up with a vibration in my 07 Access cab 4WD since I bought it new in January. The dealership says all new Tacomas do it, and there is no way to fix it. BS! Reading through endless posts here has me looking at the rear driveshaft as the cause, but all the posts I've been able to find seem to be by people with lifted trucks. I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has installed a one-piece rear driveshaft with STOCK SUSPENSION. Did it help with the vibration? Any clearance issues with the new driveshaft where the carrier bearing was mounted? Especially when the rear suspension hits the stoppers? Today I removed my rear driveshaft and drove around the neighborhood in 4-hi. The harmonic buzz that resonates through the steering wheel and gas pedal was gone. I've been in touch with Tom Woods, and he gave me some measurements to take should I decide to order a driveshaft from him. So I went ahead and took all those measurements while the driveshaft was out. Now all I need is to go ahead with my order. I would just like to know if this is a good fix with stock suspension. (I have no intention of lifting.)
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I installed the TW shaft on my 2006 stock suspension DC. I also have the Timbren taller bump stops for insurance. No bottom out issues yet in 2 days of driving. Had a medium sized load in the truck last night and still no issues. Also read my posts on LSD issues and make sure you eliminate that possibility. The Timbrens may not be nessessary but they are great for rear load control improvment regardless. DO IT!
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I ordered the one piece drive shaft during the group buy last week, but have not yet installed, as I am still riding around at stock height. I wasn't going to install until after the lift. BTW - I do not have any vibrations at stock height either, so installing the new one piece would not make a difference at this time.

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I installed the TW shaft on my 2006 stock suspension DC. I also have the Timbren taller bump stops for insurance. No bottom out issues yet in 2 days of driving. Had a medium sized load in the truck last night and still no issues. Also read my posts on LSD issues and make sure you eliminate that possibility. The Timbrens may not be nessessary but they are great for rear load control improvment regardless. DO IT!
Yea, I did come across your post on LSD issues. The fluid in mine is still stock, as my truck has only 4600 miles on it. I really don't think it's coming from the rear diff. in my case. Two things I noticed in the stock driveshaft; the rubber in the carrier is extremely soft. I can push the driveshaft around in the carrier by over a half-inch in all directions. (Don't know if that's normal, but seems excessive.) Also, I get at least 1/16-inch of play in the splines of the slipjoint when I twist the two pieces against each other. Again, if that's normal on these driveshafts, I don't know, but it seems like a poor machining practice.
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I installed the TW shaft on my 2006 stock suspension DC. I also have the Timbren taller bump stops for insurance. No bottom out issues yet in 2 days of driving. Had a medium sized load in the truck last night and still no issues. Also read my posts on LSD issues and make sure you eliminate that possibility. The Timbrens may not be nessessary but they are great for rear load control improvment regardless. DO IT!
Forgot to ask, did you have the same vibration at stock height that I do? Did the TW shaft cure it? Thanks for the info BTW!
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Stock toyota

My Tacoma is totaly stock. TRD 4X4 Sport Four Door.
The drive shaft was bad from the get go, I tried to get the dealer and toyota to help me
but Toyota refused to fix it.
So I just gave up on them.
the dealer and the Toyota Rep acted like they had all the answers and I didn't have a clue.

I put the TW Drive Shaft in and the problem is fixed. PERIOD

Tom Wood gets a thumbs UP and Toyota looses a customer and all future customers that I can influence.

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Old 06-24-2007, 03:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My Tacoma is totaly stock. TRD 4X4 Sport Four Door.
The drive shaft was bad from the get go, I tried to get the dealer and toyota to help me
but Toyota refused to fix it.
So I just gave up on them.
the dealer and the Toyota Rep acted like they had all the answers and I didn't have a clue.

I put the TW Drive Shaft in and the problem is fixed. PERIOD

Tom Wood gets a thumbs UP and Toyota looses a customer and all future customers that I can influence.

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Fantastic! Good to hear it fixed it for you. Thanks! My dealership said it's a "characteristic of the new Tacomas", and that "it's something that is not possible to fix". They basically said to get used to it.
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Really sad on the dealers and reps on this one. But the local dealer nor factory reps really did not have a good answer if the mother company would not step up to the plate with a soultion. So exactly what satisfactory answer could they give you? We did not even know the solution until a member bucked up to try it. And no dealer is going to have you a custom drive shaft built outside of toyotas blessing. As toyota designed and shipped it they were somewhat right. They did not have an answer. So I guess I say give the dealer a little bit of a break on this one and be glad we found a fix. Now as for the mother company and toyota engineers, this is poor and unacceptable. I still love my Taco and would buy the same truck again tomorrow, with a TW drive shaft!
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gkellys do you like the timbrens? I have a stock 4x4 trd with the tom woods shaft and I have rubbing with loads. someone told me that he had issues with the timbrens he said the ride was harsh and I dont want harsh
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gkellys do you like the timbrens? I have a stock 4x4 trd with the tom woods shaft and I have rubbing with loads. someone told me that he had issues with the timbrens he said the ride was harsh and I dont want harsh
Of course it is personal preference, but I would not describe the ride as harsh. In fact the ride is exactly the same UNLESS you hit a big bump, or dip, and then the Timbrens firmly "catch" the bed before the factory bottom out. I would call it tighter, not harsher, but again only when called upon in a big bump. They do not even touch the stock suspension otherwise, so normal road driving is unchanged if they are mounted properly. I only put them on the back however so I still have stock travel in the front. Short answer is mine aren't going anywhere.
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gkellys do you like the timbrens? I have a stock 4x4 trd with the tom woods shaft and I have rubbing with loads. someone told me that he had issues with the timbrens he said the ride was harsh and I dont want harsh
I'm curious, how heavy do you have to load the truck down before you get the rub? I'm going to be installing the TW one-piece this weekend, and don't want this issue. I rarely carry heavy loads though, and never carry loads heavy enough to be on the stops. Where exactly is your driveshaft rubbing? On the top of the driveshaft at the carrier mount bracket, or is it rubbing at the sides of the bracket? I ask because I've heard some people say the one-piece driveshaft sometimes doesn't run right down the center of the carrier mount bracket, and comes very close to one side.
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I had a honda trx 250r 4 wheeler In the bead and a honda 400ex 4 wheeler on my little trailer in back, I would say that I had maybe 100 lbs of weight on the hitch, so I dont think it
was that much weight but it stayed rubbing most of the time. Ineed to do somthing fast
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I'd like to know if anyone else with stock suspension has run into this problem yet. Once a driveshaft has rubbed like that, I'd be leary to continue running it. Wall thickness on the tube isn't all that thick, and once it's rubbed, the strength of the tube may have been affected.
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I had a honda trx 250r 4 wheeler In the bead and a honda 400ex 4 wheeler on my little trailer in back, I would say that I had maybe 100 lbs of weight on the hitch, so I dont think it
was that much weight but it stayed rubbing most of the time. Ineed to do somthing fast
Are your bump stops installed?
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