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Old 06-24-2007, 03:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Priming oil filter

I was just looking at my friend's 2006 Tacoma and noticed the oil filter was upside down, just like in my Porsche 944. When I change the oil in my Porsche I disable the fuel pump and ignition by removing the DME (car's computer) relay. Then I crank the starter until the oil pressure starts to come up. This fills the filter before the engine can start.

Is there any easy way to keep the 4.0 V6 from starting without squirting a bunch of fuel in the cylinders or throwing a fault code???

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 06-24-2007, 04:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I suggest not worrying about it, no damage is done by not having oil in your filter following an oil change.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I wish I could stop worrying about it. That is just not an option. I have always gotten long engine life out of my cars and trucks. I always fill the filter first and change the oil frequently. When I got my first 944 it was the first car I had with an inverted filter. I was looking for a way to keep from pouring oil all over everywhere and came up with the DME relay idea.

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Old 06-24-2007, 05:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Given Toyota's reputation for longevity, I'd guess the oil goes through the engine vitals prior to filling the filter... therefore no worries.
But that's only a guess.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I always prime the filter as well. In my 2001 Rav4 I can fill it to the top and install the filter. However in my v6 Tacoma I just pour enough oil in there making sure to soak the filter media so it does'nt spill out when I spin on the filter.
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If you fill the oil filter first (you can top it off about 1.5 times before it can not absorb any more oil) you have just primed it without going through the steps that you went through with removing any relays.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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some people are a bit nuts some times.
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If you're like me the type to change the oil after a short drive or idling the engine. There should be enough oil coating all parts and fully circulated thoughout the engine after draining the pan. This should ease the worries.
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With all my vehicles, what I do is just before I start the engine after an oil change I will turn the key to start for a split-second and then quickly turn it back to off. I will do this 3 or 4 times. It fills the oil filter so that when you start the engine after an oilchange it lessens the time you run the valvetrain with oil by a second or 2 because the oil filter is already full. As Im sure you all know, the majority of engine wear occurs at startup and it is my belief that using the above practice lessens wear on my engines.
My father has worked as an auto mechanic for over 30 years and he taught me to do this, so there must be something to it.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Lotust, no doubt I am one of those. I can't help it.

Panama Red, I do what you said on my other cars. The trouble is when you invert the filter to spin it on a good deal of the oil runs out. The relay trick avoids cleaning up the mess afterwards. Maybe the little catch tray would keep the mess contained on the 4.0 V6. Unfortunately Porsche was not so thoughtful.

You can also use this method when starting an engine for the first time after a long rest. Pull the plugs to make it easier to turn over. On my two cylinder diesel boat motor I use the compression release to allow easier priming after an oil change or long period of inoperation.

Any ideas how to keep the 4.0 from starting without generating a fault code?

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Octane, I am a true believer in what your father said.

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With all my vehicles, what I do is just before I start the engine after an oil change I will turn the key to start for a split-second and then quickly turn it back to off. I will do this 3 or 4 times. It fills the oil filter so that when you start the engine after an oilchange it lessens the time you run the valvetrain with oil by a second or 2 because the oil filter is already full. As Im sure you all know, the majority of engine wear occurs at startup and it is my belief that using the above practice lessens wear on my engines.
My father has worked as an auto mechanic for over 30 years and he taught me to do this, so there must be something to it.

doing this cant be good for the electronics or the starter
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The procedures in volume two of the repair manual says nothing about prefilling. The oil is picked up from the sump and circulated through the engine prior to the filter. Long before the sump runs out of oil, the filter is full. There is no time when the engine is dry of oil.

For long life...I always follow the instructions set forth by the engineers that designed the motor and wrote the book. Wouldn't they know best?

P.S.: There's no fuel filter to change.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Toping off the oil filter sounds good but is actually a waste of time. Read above.
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