Been shopping around for sliders for some time now, and the final option I want to look into is possibly welding my own with the help of an experienced welder.
Could anyone tell me why I should/ shouldn't do that.
Lastly can anyone tell me the shortcomings of this design, I see a few myself, but I'm a noob and my opinion is only that, an opinion. My friend is going to build these for his land cruiser.
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2006 SR5 4.0 Access Cab Auto 4x4 10/05 Build Date
100k miles
K&N CAI, Gator Saver, Front D-rings, Allpro front bumper, Daystar 2.5" leveling kit, rear spring helper mod
Waiting for a good aftermarket bed/ cargo light.
i don't care for the design of the above picture. the mounting setup is horrible. but you said you were going to weld it, and hopefully you mean weld it to the frame as well. that is a very poor bolt on design and i wouldn't copy it. i also don't like how small it tapers down to in order to avoid the rocker panel. also, from that photo, it looks too close to the rocker panel. when you are wheeling, both the frame and the body will flex. you need some gap between the sliders and the body, otherwise the sliders will damage the rocker panel before you even hit anything.
with that being said, you can definitely make some decent custom sliders. look at other slider designs and get some good ideas. if you truly want quality sliders, you will want to spend the money on good metal (higher quality and thicker). and generally, square tubing will be stronger than round tubing.
The whole point of sliders is so you can slide over stuff. Having crap hanging down won't help at all. If you're broke as shit like me there's nothing wrong with making your own. I've got less than $150 into mine. For $199 you can get these from demello offroad, which means you don't have to buy a bender and can just pay your buddy some corona's to weld them up.
And you can just have them welded to your truck at the angle that makes you happy.
I made mine stick out a little more so I can pivot off trees without trashing sheetmetal. Being able to open your doors after wheelin' rules.
a little off topic, but i like the photo with your dog tacogrande. i have a 2.5 year old choc lab.
back to topic, the demello diy sliders are a great option. you would probably come close to spending that much money in material and time. and demello makes great products.
a little off topic, but i like the photo with your dog tacogrande. i have a 2.5 year old choc lab.
back to topic, the demello diy sliders are a great option. you would probably come close to spending that much money in material and time. and demello makes great products.
Yeah the mad lab isn't a good helper though. He steals loose sockets and bolts and tries to bite the sparks when I grind on stuff, he is really fond of stealing shop rags and shredding them in the yard.
I agree that demello's DIY kit is the way to go if you're wheeling on a budget. I would have bought them myself, but the shipping overseas is retarded.
Thanks, I'll have to call demello up to see what shipping will be. As far as the fab on the landcruiser, I was thinking about the same design flaws also, but I wanted a second opinion.
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The whole point of sliders is so you can slide over stuff. Having crap hanging down won't help at all. If you're broke as shit like me there's nothing wrong with making your own. I've got less than $150 into mine. For $199 you can get these from demello offroad, which means you don't have to buy a bender and can just pay your buddy some corona's to weld them up.
And you can just have them welded to your truck at the angle that makes you happy.
I made mine stick out a little more so I can pivot off trees without trashing sheetmetal. Being able to open your doors after wheelin' rules.
blah
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2006 SR5 4.0 Access Cab Auto 4x4 10/05 Build Date
100k miles
K&N CAI, Gator Saver, Front D-rings, Allpro front bumper, Daystar 2.5" leveling kit, rear spring helper mod
Waiting for a good aftermarket bed/ cargo light.
ponq... That is NOT the design you want to copy. U-bolts, decreased clearance, and contact with the pinch seam are all bad things when it comes to sliders. Those are not functional.
Those are great for a grocery getter, or for hte Ms's to get in the truck but for wheeling...crap.
As others have mentioned Demello makes some great sliders at a reasonable price.
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Been shopping around for sliders for some time now, and the final option I want to look into is possibly welding my own with the help of an experienced welder.
Could anyone tell me why I should/ shouldn't do that.
Lastly can anyone tell me the shortcomings of this design, I see a few myself, but I'm a noob and my opinion is only that, an opinion. My friend is going to build these for his land cruiser.
Hey TacoGrande, How much of an idiot can I be and still get away with getting the DIY Sliders? I would have to rent a TIG or maybe MIG welder, (never welded before), and how hard to get all the gussets (i guess that's what their called) angled properly?
or i guess it would be a bit easier to get the weld on set and wouldn't have to worry about lining everything up, but i think i like how far out yours go, makes a good step.
Hey TacoGrande, How much of an idiot can I be and still get away with getting the DIY Sliders? I would have to rent a TIG or maybe MIG welder, (never welded before), and how hard to get all the gussets (i guess that's what their called) angled properly?
or i guess it would be a bit easier to get the weld on set and wouldn't have to worry about lining everything up, but i think i like how far out yours go, makes a good step.
Well I would take a welding class at the community college first, or spend some time learning to weld. Like 20-30 hours of gun time before you attempt to weld sliders to your frame. I am sure you could find a fab shop in your area that would weld them up cheap. Shit search around here for someone in your area with welding skills, you just might get it done for a case of beer.
yeah, i wouldn't try welding them myself if i wasn't experienced. as tacogrande said, a shop should be able to do it for fairly cheap, or just find someone experienced. but if you plan on using the sliders as they are intended, i wouldn't want to put any faith on whether or not the welds from a "rookie" will hold up.
The whole point of sliders is so you can slide over stuff. Having crap hanging down won't help at all. If you're broke as shit like me there's nothing wrong with making your own. I've got less than $150 into mine. For $199 you can get these from demello offroad, which means you don't have to buy a bender and can just pay your buddy some corona's to weld them up.
And you can just have them welded to your truck at the angle that makes you happy.
I made mine stick out a little more so I can pivot off trees without trashing sheetmetal. Being able to open your doors after wheelin' rules.
blah
Where did you get the portable welder????? and how did you hold it in place?? Jack stands?
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