I had a post over at TTORA back in July about possibly adding a TC LT kit to my Procomp DB. The general consensus there was that I was "f*cking retarted". Though this may be true, I am seriously considering doing this, will probably order the kit within the next month. I thought I would run it by another crowd to see if there was anyone else who may have experience with such a setup that can shed some objective light on a build like this. SAS is not an option right now. My reason for going the LT route is to incraese articulation, increase ground clearance, both under the bracket and between the axles. If I understand correctly, all i will be replacing are the Upper and lower control arms, the axle shafts, the CO's, and the rear leaf pack. Once complete, my truck will have 10" of lift, however my fronts will be spread 7" which should increase stabilty along with height.
a few things:
1. the truck is 4x4 and I will be retaining it
2. I will not be racing the truck, it is for trails, mud, rivers, mild rocks.
3. I want to keep the bolt on theme
4. SAS is not an option, do not want to goto that extent
I had a post over at TTORA back in July about possibly adding a TC LT kit to my Procomp DB. The general consensus there was that I was "f*cking retarted". Though this may be true, I am seriously considering doing this, will probably order the kit within the next month. I thought I would run it by another crowd to see if there was anyone else who may have experience with such a setup that can shed some objective light on a build like this. SAS is not an option right now. My reason for going the LT route is to incraese articulation, increase ground clearance, both under the bracket and between the axles. If I understand correctly, all i will be replacing are the Upper and lower control arms, the axle shafts, the CO's, and the rear leaf pack. Once complete, my truck will have 10" of lift, however my fronts will be spread 7" which should increase stabilty along with height.
a few things:
1. the truck is 4x4 and I will be retaining it
2. I will not be racing the truck, it is for trails, mud, rivers, mild rocks.
3. I want to keep the bolt on theme
4. SAS is not an option, do not want to goto that extent
this is the kit:
which will be bolted onto this:
Not sure I can be of much help here, except you spelled Retarded wrong.
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06' DC 4x4, TRD Offroad, Super White, 6" ProComp Stage II
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I'm no expert or anything, but if your doing alot of Offroading, isn't 10" of lift a little dangerous or counter-productive? At some point you'll become too top heavy and roll much much easier.
just my 2 cents.
oh now i see you extend width by 7 inches...so nevermind
Why not just take the DB off, fab a new X-member, and just have a bad ass 4WD long travel tacoma? Dude I came REAL close to rolling my truck last weekend with only 2" of lift on 33's, on what I consider very mild terrain (picked a bad line). If you are just building a show truck that's cool man. Nobody will bust your balls. Just don't wheel it or claim to be building it for "offroad" because anything slightly off camber and you will flop! If I was you and I realized I made a mistake buying a drop bracket kit I would regear to 4.88 front and rear, bolt on some 38's and do a little trimming. It would then be a very capable off road machine that nobody would point and laugh at. Or reconsider the SAS. The LT kit is going to cost you upwards of seven G's to complete, you could do sas for that-
10" of lift with an LT kit and those shocks w/ spacers you are running will probably f**k it up. The LT UCA and LCA are designed to run with certain types of shocks like fox or kings 2.5-3.0 coilovers.
10" of lift with an LT kit and those shocks w/ spacers you are running will probably f**k it up. The LT UCA and LCA are designed to run with certain types of shocks like fox or kings 2.5-3.0 coilovers.
Yeah you need new coilovers, springs, 300M axles, bumpstops(or at least secondary shocks) rear springs, shocks, rear bumps, and I would do an engine cage and lots of frame reinforcement because that DB kit seriously compromised the structural integrity of the frame, which will only be compounded by the added stress of the LT kit. Hell the LT kit alone will tear a truck apart without reinforcement eventually.
thanks for the replies! I would replace the spacer with full length coil overs. I was thinking that since a LT kit is designed for high speed and big air, it should be strong enough to hold up to slow trails and comparable terrain...
I am not sure what kind of line you took when you almost rolled your 2" truck with 33s, but i do a fair amount of trail running and have yet to come close to rolling my truck.. It is VERY stable...
As far as the structural integrity of the truck, this is my main concern. I have been trying to come up with ways of reinforcing the frame. Such as 1/4" thick steel tubular reinforcements starting from the frame running through the bracket and back up to the frame, covered in 1/4" steel plate. Sort of like a brace for the bracket covered with skid plates. Do you think that would solve the problem if done correctly?
my truck will look nothing like that.. that is a hideous beast.. it is on i think 33s with like 4" wheel spacers.. not even along the same lines as what i am talking about..
Well, this is the spot. It looks pretty easy, and I'm sure that's what the guy in the 'cruiser thought too. It's just an off camber ledge, which a solid axle rig would laugh off.
Anyway check into engine cages. It's basically a hoop from one frame rail to the other tied in at several locations to provide lateral support. Get a tube bender and go to town man. search like a madman at ttora in the fab section, there's a couple good build threads in there and the LT tech section.
I don't think you're retarded for asking, but to go forward with the idea after researching would honestly be a little off the mark.
If you're serious about trail performance the D.B. should go, 10" of lift is way too high for the trail. If you're talking offroad performance the goal should be to fit the tallest tire possible with the least amount of lift. On top of that a 33" tire is about as big as I would go on a Toyota rig that sees the trail, the stock diffs just aren't strong enough for really big tires on the trail, and 10" of lift with 33's would look silly.
Most Toyota 4x4 trail guys run 32 or 33's, even then diffs are know to explode. Some of the prerunners run 35's but many of them have gone or are going to Ford 9" rears or something comparable.
This setup your looking at is a bit of a disaster waiting to happen, especially if you take your truck offroad down some good trails. But hey it's your truck, and if anything it would be neat to see.
To sum up what AN said...you are heading for a trainwreck, but we will be happy to watch.
Sell the 6" bracket lift. Fix your frame and take the money for the LT kit and put a solid live axle under the front of that thing. You will be tall, people will gawk and you will still have a capable and fairly safe vehicle to wheel. Everything you want all rolled into one.
i know youve heard alot of negative stuff on other forums especially ttora. But you have to ask yourself "Is it really worth it to test out the new kind of suspension setup"
If you do get the TC kit and slap it on, your truck can perform unbelieveable and you can prove us all wrong. But what if you get the TC kit and you roll the truck???? I would hate to see that happen to your bitchen truck. What are the consequences of trial and error worth to you?
yeah... Realistically it will perform offroad much better with a sac. I guess to be honest i am scared to do that ha. I think that is something i would wait until my truck is a lil more beat up. maybe around 60k miles ill sac it..
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Not sure I can be of much help here, except you spelled Retarded wrong.
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