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Old 01-25-2008, 07:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone have custom 2 piece driveshaft with a CV center

I know Tom Wood's one piece has worked out wonderfully for many, but unfortunately for me it created a highway vibration. I am about to attempt this procedure possibly with a local shop so I'm basically looking for people who have gone this route to share their experiences. Thanks
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Need more input.....

What do you mean by two-piece driveshaft with CV center?

Do you mean double cardon joint ?

Is this what you're referring to? TOP ONE
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That's gonna be expensive.

I think the new Reg Cab TSB is a step in the right direction. I think it has to do with the diff input being off center.
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What do you mean by two-piece driveshaft with CV center?

Do you mean double cardon joint ?
Double Cardan, yes
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Double Cardan, yes
The older Toyota's came with the double cardin 2 pc. shafts. I had an 85' truck that had a 12" lift and never gave me any problems.
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I'd definitely like to know the outcome if you have that done. Going back to the pre-2005 configuration would be interesting. I made the "mistake" of driving my friends 2004 Tundra 4WD home from a trip to the mountains this weekend. My Tacoma is stock, but my god, that Tundra had a powertrain that ran so smooth, it made my Taco feel like a Dodge the next time I drove it.

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I think I responded to you in another forum.

With a double cardon joint - the driveline angles are different than a standard driveshaft. It has to be pointing AT the t-case (not parallel).

Even after installing a CV driveshaft - you will most likely need to adjust your driveline angles to be *vibration free* In other words - you can't just install it and expect everything to be good.

Again - Here's some info:
http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html

I have a Tom Woods CV driveshaft in my jeep and that's why I'm familiar with it.
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I think I responded to you in another forum.

With a double cardon joint - the driveline angles are different than a standard driveshaft. It has to be pointing AT the t-case (not parallel).

Even after installing a CV driveshaft - you will most likely need to adjust your driveline angles to be *vibration free* In other words - you can't just install it and expect everything to be good.

Again - Here's some info:
http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html

I have a Tom Woods CV driveshaft in my jeep and that's why I'm familiar with it.
Done that, no change
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Done that, no change
Done what?

What exactly did you do?

Give us the whole story......What did you install? Why did you install it? What happened? What did you do to try and fix it?
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you will most likely need to adjust your driveline angles to be *vibration free* In other words.
I did adjust my driveline angle according to http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#Measurements

Anyway, I posted this on TTORA

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I noticed the highway vibration as soon as I installed the 1 piece, took it off to put the stock one back on and highway vibration gone away immediately. I talked to guys at Tom Wood about shimming, they didn't think shimming it will help with the vibration but I did it anyway, no changed after shim.
I have the take off shutter like 99% of ppl who installed lifts on their trucks
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I think I responded to you in another forum.

With a double cardon joint - the driveline angles are different than a standard driveshaft. It has to be pointing AT the t-case (not parallel).

Even after installing a CV driveshaft - you will most likely need to adjust your driveline angles to be *vibration free* In other words - you can't just install it and expect everything to be good.

Again - Here's some info:
http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html

I have a Tom Woods CV driveshaft in my jeep and that's why I'm familiar with it.
I think you may have misunderstood what style of driveshaft he is referring to. What he is talking about is different than the one piece Tom Woods CV shaft you are speaking of. He is talking about having a driveshaft built that is like the last generation Tacomas. It's a two piece shaft, like our stock ones, with a carrier bearing at the center. The difference is that the old generation had a double cardan joint just aft of the carrier bearing. He is thinking about having one of these driveshafts custom made.
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I did adjust my driveline angle according to http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#Measurements

Anyway, I posted this on TTORA



I have the take off shutter like 99% of ppl who installed lifts on their trucks
Do you have any pictures?

What shims did you install? Did you try different sized shims? Did you try and lower the carrier bearing? Did you check your u-joints for wear?

Sorry for all the questions - but I'm not sure buying another custom shaft is gonna help.

Every vehicle is different and although measuring angles & trying things that other folks have done - doesn't always quarentee it'll work on your truck. I'd hate to see you purchase another drive shaft ($$$) and have the same problems.
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No pictures, I purchased the shims from Tow Wood. I used a pair of 5 degree shim with the one piece shaft, no changes whatsoever with or without shims. I have 2 degree shims on right now with the stock 2 piece driveshaft and the take off shutter is back, with or without shims. I left the 5 degree shims on with the stock driveshaft just to see what would happen, still shutter but does it slightly different. I tried lowering the carrier bearing, no changes.

TW is going to refund me for the 1 piece and that will go towards the custom shaft I'm going to have it build.
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No pictures, I purchased the shims from Tow Wood. I used a pair of 5 degree shim with the one piece shaft, no changes whatsoever with or without shims. I have 2 degree shims on right now with the stock 2 piece driveshaft and the take off shutter is back, with or without shims. I left the 5 degree shims on with the stock driveshaft just to see what would happen, still shutter but does it slightly different. I tried lowering the carrier bearing, no changes.

TW is going to refund me for the 1 piece and that will go towards the custom shaft I'm going to have it build.
I know the TW double cardon joint shafts are pretty heavy and assuming you have the cardon joint up at the carrier bearing.... makes me wonder if it's too heavy for the carrier bearing? The carrier bearing isn't a fixed bearing (so to speak) that it allows for movement. I wonder if the extra weight is causing excessive flotation within the carrier bearing = vibrations. Dunno, just a wild guess....

Do some research - but I'm pretty sure some of the guys have put custom cv driveshafts in and totally eliminated the carrier bearing. A direct shaft from diff to transfer case.
You'd be giving up some ground clearance - but it would also be a *longer* shaft and should be easier to troubleshoot driveline vibes.

Sorry, I'll shut up now.
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