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2015 key copy doesn't work upside down???

Recently got a basic 2015 with about 20k miles. Forget what the model is called but doesn't have jump seats in the back and no keyless entry. The keys don't have anything in the head (AFAIK). The 2 keys I got have very little wear on them and work fine in both doors and ignition. I got a couple copies made and they work if I wiggle them around but much worse than the original. I can't see a difference and measured to compare several sections with a dial caliper - only a few thousands difference. So I went somewhere else and got a copy made. It would work one side up but not upside down. I see a very slight offset between cuts on one side of the key and the other side on the originals (On side the ridges and valleys are slightly closer to the tip than the other side.)

Any ideas? I am thinking about getting a key cut at the dealer since the originals (they are originals not copies) seem a little off. As I said it is just a mechanical key. Anyone else seen anything like this?
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I haven't had a copy of a car key made in a long time, but I do recall the days where I had similar issues like you're describing.


The dealer can cut fresh keys using either the little key number plate (a tiny piece of metal with a code number on it, would have come with the keys when the truck was new) or the VIN. They can also tell from the VIN whether or not your key has a chip in it for the engine immobilizer system. If it's a chip key, then there will be some labor involved on the dealer's part to program the computer with the chip code from the new key(s). Without that programming, you could unlock the doors but you would not be able to start the engine.

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If it doesn't work right then take it back and have them cut new one.
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I have one key that was cut off a well worn one. It only works one way, not both. It is fiddly to turn, but does go, using the good side.

I suspect a bit of wire brushing at the key copy place would make it better, if you got it made at a locksmith or hardware store with service. If a drug store, not so much. (yes the drug store copies keys, very poorly, here in Calif)

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Very simple: you got a poorly-cut key.

I used to cut keys all the time at hardware stores. While some companies have advanced machines that basically take the original and make a copy while you watch, most key cutting machines require a human to conduct the operation.

Auto keys are harder than average house keys. Special security keys (Medico, etc) can be even trickier. An inexperienced person could easily make a slight error that produces a useless key copy.

Ask for a new cut.
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I recently had the same problem with my `13 Tacoma. The hardware store gave up after the third set of keys. They sent me to a locksmith. After 2 sets of keys, he finally got `em to work. The locksmith said that he thinks that there are some lousy aftermarket Toyota blanks out there. The blanks that he would normally use for a Tacoma just weren't getting it.
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I think ToyTruck1989 is on to something. It is clearly more than just a sloppy cut job. I have been to several different places and some have tried a couple times. I even tried cleaning up the edge burrs on some. They "sort of" work if you jiggle them around enough but I am not going to live with that. Found a local dealer that will cut them from the VIN for $10 each so going to try that. A dealer I work near wanted $28 for the same thing. Amazing the difference between dealers - some rate "D" with the BBB.
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