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Sleeping in Highlander hybrid all night- battery or ICE?

Hi guys, does anyone know how frequently the gas engine turns on, and how long for, when one is say sleeping in the vehicle all night with the air-conditioning on medium? Prius owners say 2 minutes of charging every 40 minutes or so, but I'm worried it will be different in the Highlander because it's bigger?

No dealership will let me sit in the car for an hour with the AC blasting lol, I did notice though that the gas engine seems to always be on when the heats blowing?
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1. you will need to have system powered up continuously, as in - in Ready mode.
2. gear shifter will have to be in P or D.
3. make sure you are not in N as then there is no regeneration and I know one owner that discharged traction battery that way.
4. you will have to be out in open space. Back in 'ol country, many deaths were caused by running engine in closed metal garage winter time, usually for erotic purposes.
Normally, ICE turns off after over 2 bars battery charge was accomplished.
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1. you will need to have system powered up continuously, as in - in Ready mode.
2. gear shifter will have to be in P or D.
3. make sure you are not in N as then there is no regeneration and I know one owner that discharged traction battery that way.
4. you will have to be out in open space. Back in 'ol country, many deaths were caused by running engine in closed metal garage winter time, usually for erotic purposes.
Normally, ICE turns off after over 2 bars battery charge was accomplished.
Thank you! So when you say ICE turns off after 2 bars, how does that play out roughly in say 75 degree weather with the AC on low? Is it roughly 2 minutes of charging every 40 min like the Prius car campers say?
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I honestly don't know. I doubt someone can answer this question down to a minute also. It depends on so many variables, hope you understand. Windows up or down. how many people inside the vehicle. Ambient temperature. Things of that nature. And even that will vary from a condition to condition to condition.
From what I observed, mine kicks ICE in when traction battery is at 2 bars and I am doing something - driving, reversing, etc. The very moment it hits 3 bars and I am MOVING, so that regen can operate, ICE turns off, under all the other parameters not requiring ICE operation.
Maybe you should make an experiment? In more or less adequate conditions? But, as I said - it will vary from a condition to a condition.

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Gas engine will always be on if you have heat blowing by manually setting the temp to 32. However if you use the automatic control and set your temp to a modest value the engine will shut off once coolant temperature has gotten high enough to hold the cabin at the set temperature, restarting it again once the coolant temp drops. I guess the best way to test it for your scenario would be to sacrifice the bit of gas and just leave it on overnight to see for yourself. If you have auto climate control it would definitely help.

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Gas engine will always be on if you have heat blowing by manually setting the temp to 32. However if you use the automatic control and set your temp to a modest value the engine will shut off once coolant temperature has gotten high enough to hold the cabin at the set temperature, restarting it again once the coolant temp drops. I guess the best way to test it for your scenario would be to sacrifice the bit of gas and just leave it on overnight to see for yourself. If you have auto climate control it would definitely help.

This sounds knowledgeable but it is not.
You can not set temp to 32. Lowest setting is 60 then it simply goes to COLD.
Gas engine has little to do with AC operation as AC is electrical.
You sure you are not making things up as it goes?

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This sounds knowledgeable but it is not.
You can not set temp to 32. Lowest setting is 60 then it simply goes to COLD.
Gas engine has little to do with AC operation as AC is electrical.
You sure you are not making things up as it goes?
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A place where they use real, tangible & logical units of temperature measure...

32c, really warm/hot...
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Ah, the metric system. I miss that. But then 32 is rather soopy hot inside, don't you think? Still does not make sense. Say, several bodies inside producing heat, especially when they are rhythmically moving...
32C... That's almost 90F? INSIDE a vehicle?

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Ah, the metric system. I miss that. But then 32 is rather soopy hot inside, don't you think? Still does not make sense. Say, several bodies inside producing heat, especially when they are rhythmically moving...
32C... That's almost 90F? INSIDE a vehicle?
Definitely, I think it was an example for OP... 32c is how hot CAD cars get, my Camry goes up that high as well.

But my motor never shutoff, as I'd leave it running when napping on lunch breaks... and it's a V6 lol
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Guess it's another one of CA specialties. Mine will not go past 85, thereafter it's Max Heat.

I forgot to ask OP - camping winter time or summer time? As it completely changes how system operates. Of course V6 will need to run to maintain desired coolant temp - WINTER time. Entire operation will be depending on ambient temp.

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Ah, the metric system. I miss that. But then 32 is rather soopy hot inside, don't you think? Still does not make sense. Say, several bodies inside producing heat, especially when they are rhythmically moving...
32C... That's almost 90F? INSIDE a vehicle?
Yes, 32 is the highest setting for Celsius. Yes it's very hot and you wouldn't want to use it on the auto setting with it on 90F, but I am being dead serious when I say that nobody I know personally who has automatic climate control knows how to use it properly with the auto function. They just leave it on manual and have the temp set at either 18C (lowest) for cold air or 32C (highest) for hot air and adjust the fan manually. Leaves the question as to why do they own a car with auto climate control?

Anyways, digressing... As 01lexpl mentioned, I was using it as an example for OP as to whether they use the auto function or not

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