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Old 02-25-2013, 03:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gas Prices here in Alamogordo

I wanted to point out how I found my lowest priced top tier gas station here in Alamogordo, NM.

I used the www.toptiergas.com/ web site to see which station are listed as top tier. Watch the video on this site to learn what top tier is all about. To me it keeps the ultra-fine injectors on the newer cars clean for more power and improved mpg. Be sure to click RETAILERS to see the list of top tier stations.

Next I use http://www.gasbuddy.com/ site to get the daily prices from the gas stations in my city. Simply type in your zip code. It's easy to compare the top tier list to the lowest prices top tier station to find top quality gasoline at a low price.

Not listed in the top tier list, but is just as good is Costco's Kirkland Signature gasoline.
http://www.costco.com/gasoline-clean-power.html

Here is example below from today's gas buddy prices here in town. The Sav-O-Mat station is usually always lowest. A no brand name gas station which is always low priced, but makes your engine harder to start and loss of power. I don't know why people even buy gas from them. Maybe their small convenience store draws some attention.

USA Gasoline at 5 cents more per gallon. That's our local Walmart station were you seldom see anybody filling up. I tried a tank back in 2005 and took me 3 tanks of Chevron just to get my car back running good again.

Next higher price on the list at the same price as Walmart gas is a Phillips 66, a top tier station. It's located in the parking lot of a Lowe's grocery store. It's a 16 pump station and the tank truck driver once told me his refilling their tanks took 8000 gallons per day during the summer.

I had used Chevron another top tier brand from 1980 to 1999 due to the station being only a block from our house before moving to new mexico. This new phillips 66 station here in Alamo was built in 2005 so I started using it due to it being on the top tier list and was low or below the prices of some of the discount or no-name gasoline's.

Here is a screen shot below of today's gas prices here in our city. Look at the top 3 stations and it's easy to see why I buy top tier at a low price. All the other station are $3.49 to $3.59 per gallon and over half of those aren't top tier stations. People just don't know, gas runs and if it don't ping they think it's good gas. I have told many about the low priced phillips station and they say their getting improved gas mileage and can see a increase in power.

Top tier gas has many times the additives to clean your engine as the government based gasolines.

click the bar were it says, to view the full image.





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I wanted to point out how I found my lowest priced top tier gas station here in Alamogordo, NM.

I used the www.toptiergas.com/ web site to see which station are listed as top tier. Watch the video on this site to learn what top tier is all about. To me it keeps the ultra-fine injectors on the newer cars clean for more power and improved mpg. Be sure to click RETAILERS to see the list of top tier stations.

Next I use http://www.gasbuddy.com/ site to get the daily prices from the gas stations in my city. Simply type in your zip code. It's easy to compare the top tier list to the lowest prices top tier station to find top quality gasoline at a low price.

Not listed in the top tier list, but is just as good is Costco's Kirkland Signature gasoline.
http://www.costco.com/gasoline-clean-power.html

Here is example below from today's gas buddy prices here in town. The Sav-O-Mat station is usually always lowest. A no brand name gas station which is always low priced, but makes your engine harder to start and loss of power. I don't know why people even buy gas from them. Maybe their small convenience store draws some attention.

USA Gasoline at 5 cents more per gallon. That's our local Walmart station were you seldom see anybody filling up. I tried a tank back in 2005 and took me 3 tanks of Chevron just to get my car back running good again.

Next higher price on the list at the same price as Walmart gas is a Phillips 66, a top tier station. It's located in the parking lot of a Lowe's grocery store. It's a 16 pump station and the tank truck driver once told me his refilling their tanks took 8000 gallons per day during the summer.

I had used Chevron another top tier brand from 1980 to 1999 due to the station being only a block from our house before moving to new mexico. This new phillips 66 station here in Alamo was built in 2005 so I started using it due to it being on the top tier list and was low or below the prices of some of the discount or no-name gasoline's.

Here is a screen shot below of today's gas prices here in our city. Look at the top 3 stations and it's easy to see why I buy top tier at a low price. All the other station are $3.49 to $3.59 per gallon and over half of those aren't top tier stations. People just don't know, gas runs and if it don't ping they think it's good gas. I have told many about the low priced phillips station and they say their getting improved gas mileage and can see a increase in power.

Top tier gas has many times the additives to clean your engine as the government based gasolines.

click the bar were it says, to view the full image.





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It's $3.74 for Shell regular here.
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no worries. was $5.20 in LA 3 weeks ago.
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I think some oil companies and gas stations try to take advantage of the increasing gas prices. Makes one wonder if some cities group together on trying to keep their gas prices high which would be against the law.
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Interesting that the website didn't list ARCO. I am trying to figure out who controls the site. It looks to be GM but mentions other auto manufacturers.

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no worries. was $5.20 in LA 3 weeks ago.


No wonder Priuses are so popular there! lol

$3.69 here the last couple of days, but I see a few stations jumped to $3.89 overnight Wish the weather would hurry up and warm up so the hubby can go back to riding his bike....
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I think some oil companies and gas stations try to take advantage of the increasing gas prices. Makes one wonder if some cities group together on trying to keep their gas prices high which would be against the law.
The recent spike in prices is due to simple economics: supply and demand. A number of refineries have been shut down to make the conversion from winter blend to summer blend, and at the same time there have been several minor accidents at other refineries either forcing limited output or shutting down output all together. Because the laws in America are so strict now regarding building new refineries there hasn't been a new one built since the early 80s if memory serves, thus the nation's refined gas supply is always literally on the ragged edge, where the least decrease in production causes huge shockwaves through the supply system.

Get your legislators to ease off on the laws, regulations, and permit process for building new refineries and you will see lower, more stable gas prices. But that will never happen. Americans have been propagandized so long and so hard, they can seldom believe in anything other than the "evil big oil" mindset.
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no worries. was $5.20 in LA 3 weeks ago.
You must've filled up by the airport (LAX) or in Beverly Hills. Out in the burbs, no more than $4.50, which is still higher than everywhere else.
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Interesting that the website didn't list ARCO. I am trying to figure out who controls the site. It looks to be GM but mentions other auto manufacturers.
Your statement about ARCO not being listed as a top tier gas. This reminds me of EXXON was not listed for many years till a few years ago. They stepped way up on the additives to become a top tier brand on the list.

You might try up to 3 tanks of some top tier brand to see if you car runs any better.

I highly recommend any top tier brand of gas to keep the newer ultra-fine injectors clean for increased power and improved gas mileage. Here were I live top tier gas cost from 3 to 5 cents more per gallon than the government based gasoline's.

Read the text then play the video here which explain why top tier.

click the word Retailers to see the list of top tier stations in your city.

www.toptiergas.com
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Get your legislators to ease off on the laws, regulations, and permit process for building new refineries and you will see lower, more stable gas prices. But that will never happen. Americans have been propagandized so long and so hard, they can seldom believe in anything other than the "evil big oil" mindset.
More complex than that. Even with favorable laws in building refineries there will be the NIMBY factor. Also have to consider the high cost of building a refinery and what type of oil to process, i.e. light sweet West Texas crude or heavy, sour, high-acid Canadian tar sands crude. Access to pipelines is a factor, hindering places like New England. Growing up in New England in the 50ies, 60ies and 70ies that's all I ever heard about was lack of pipelines. One would thing the rationing of the 1970ies would cause people to change their minds, but it hasn't. To those who complain about the high cost of gasoline, I say "walk".
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More complex than that. Even with favorable laws in building refineries there will be the NIMBY factor.
Absolute, 100% truth right there.
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I think some oil companies and gas stations try to take advantage of the increasing gas prices. Makes one wonder if some cities group together on trying to keep their gas prices high which would be against the law.
Here in FL, there is local option gas tax, which can make some difference between cities.

In CA and a number of other high-density urban areas, there are specific fuel requirements to (hopefully) help with local conditions that are aggravated with excess HC emissions - like from fuel vapors. These specialty blends are typically premium-priced - and in some cases they do cost more to produce. In others, it's an opportunity at revenue maximization by the suppliers.
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Because the laws in America are so strict now regarding building new refineries there hasn't been a new one built since the early 80s if memory serves
I have heard many positions why refineries are not being built. My personal opinion is that the oil industry is well aware of peak oil and no one in the industry wants to invest in a new refinery because it will be under utilized if oil consumption in the U.S. declines. Another reason people should only be buying hybrids and plug ins or natural gas powered cars.

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I have heard many positions why refineries are not being built. My personal opinion is that the oil industry is well aware of peak oil and no one in the industry wants to invest in a new refinery because it will be under utilized if oil consumption in the U.S. declines. Another reason people should only be buying hybrids and plug ins or natural gas powered cars.
No, the problem lies with a sea of federal regulations, permits, environmental impact statements, taxes, etc., that make oil production so onerous and expensive that oil exploration in America still remains at a poor level compared to what it could be. It's a modern miracle that the Bakken field in North Dakota has been explored as much as it has, but that's mainly due to North Dakota easing its own requirements and taxes to make exploration affordable.

As far as refineries go, what I wrote earlier is the actual case whether people choose to believe it or not. America sits on almost 2 trillion barrels of oil, 800 billion barrels (four times proven Saudi reserves) is in economically viable shale oil and tar sands that have been "locked out" at the federal level. There is no shortage of oil except for our willingness to produce it. There would be no shortage of refined petroleum if NIMBY, hyper-regulation, and permit and tax costs didn't prevent their construction.

We have the ability to be energy independent with a booming economy, but Americans choose to drink the "we're all going to die" Kool-Aid that petroleum products are pure evil and the instrument of our own destruction. The reasonable alternative should be to exploit our oil reserves, continue to fund and research alternative energy sources, use them when and where they're viable, and be reasonable about environmental concerns while undertaking all these things. Unfortunately, too many Americans do not want to be reasonable, so we all suffer.
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It's a modern miracle that the Bakken field in North Dakota has been explored as much as it has, but that's mainly due to North Dakota easing its own requirements and taxes to make exploration affordable.
Has more to do with hydraulic fracturing.
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