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#1 Old 04-13-2010, 04:53 PM
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Funny Front End Noises 1992 Pickup 4x4

Hey everybody,
Name's Andy, and I'm a new member and long time Toyota lover. My family had a 1990 camry 4WD that was a real mountain goat, and a 1990 4Runner 22RE SR5 2 door that both got me into Toyota. I have a 1992 4WD pickup with extended cab and the 3VZE engine. It's only got 149K on it! she runs like a top and I love it, I'll be keeping her until she blow up and then some.

I have a few questions for you experts. Mine has the ADD hubs in it and I am starting to think they may be the source of a loud noise my truck makes when I turn the steering wheel to full lock on the left or right side. When the front wheels are turned fully left or right and I drive forward there is a loud clunking/screeching sound, it's hard to describe. It sounds like rusty metal grinding on rusty metal. It's possible it's the suspension making the noise, I am not sure. has anyone had a similar experience? The sound is not continuous.

Second, either the belt or one of the engine accessories is making a nearly continuous sound that you could compare to a slipping power steering belt noise. I think it MAY be the water pump but again I'm not sure. About half of the 4Runners and pickups I have seen of the same age make this sound, mine is just a bit louder. Any tips there?

Thanks for any advice. Is anyone on here from the Okanagan valley and if so can you recommend a decent mechanic?

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its your steering stops. the plastic caps wear out. small metal studs you can get new caps but it will only be temporary just out a bad of grease on eash one. 2 on each side one in front one in back. im assuming anyway its very common and a very simple cheap fix. im a 22re guy so idk on question two but just give it some time.read the must read section youll prob find your answer and more on the stops.
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steering stops now greased!

how tough is it to swap to manual hubs from the ADD system?
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i dont believe its to awful involved look it up on here or yotatech and youll find the answer. but theres people on here that know.
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or this http://www.yotatech.com/f116/d-d-manual-hubs-206755/ theres more details in other threads but if this doesnt cover it youll at least get pointed in the right direction for a write up. just dont go on there and ask again. its a fairly common question i think and some people over there get a little harsh when asked questions multiple times. welcome to toyotanation btw.
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Thanks for the leads, been a huge help.
man I love these trucks
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squealing belts are pretty common on 3vze's especially if you get aftermarket belts. Normally aftermarket belts are like 1-3" too long.

The steering pump belt is the worst, pretty hard to get good tension on it..

As for hubs, go grab some aisin manual hubs from a 1986-1995 pickup or 4runner, direct swap. Takes all of 15 mins a side for a noob

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Hey Andy, I bought my 94 4x4 last year and I too have already addressed a couple of these issues. First off for the loud noise coming from the steering stops, I cut four pieces of heavy duty 1/2 inch heater hose about 1 and a half inches long, and pushed each piece on over each steering stop and used a ty-rap to keep them in place. There should a small amount of hose protruding out past the end of the steering stop, which I filled with a heavy duty hard grease. This took care of the noise. As for the ADD hubs, I had a problem with mine where the front end was staying engaged all the time. I corrected this by buying a set of used manual hubs for a 100 bucks, should be from a 89 to 94 4x4, and installing them, takes maybe an hour each side depending how hard the small cone washers are to get off.
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[quote=Jayota;3158017]squealing belts are pretty common on 3vze's especially if you get aftermarket belts. Normally aftermarket belts are like 1-3" too long.

The steering pump belt is the worst, pretty hard to get good tension on it..
/quote]

Ok.
I have 149,000 km on mine. I have no idea if the timing belt has been done.
I have been told that if I do the timing belt I may as well go with a new water pump, idler and tensioner pulleys, belts and thermostat. What do you guys think? What's a reasonable price to do this work and what kind of time would it take me to do myself? I'm handy with wrenches, I spend lots of time working on my mini-fleet of 70's motorcycles.
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the cone washers are EASY to get off !!! almost 'self removal' !

back the nuts almost off- tap the hub on the side / beside the cone washers- they will pop out !!!!!! (i say to leave the nuts on, cause the cone washers will pop off and get lost ! )

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squealing belts are pretty common on 3vze's especially if you get aftermarket belts. Normally aftermarket belts are like 1-3" too long.

The steering pump belt is the worst, pretty hard to get good tension on it..
Ok.
I have 149,000 km on mine. I have no idea if the timing belt has been done.
I have been told that if I do the timing belt I may as well go with a new water pump, idler and tensioner pulleys, belts and thermostat. What do you guys think? What's a reasonable price to do this work and what kind of time would it take me to do myself? I'm handy with wrenches, I spend lots of time working on my mini-fleet of 70's motorcycles.

A new water pump is always a good idea. The idler and tensioner pulleys shouldn't need to be replaced on a motor with that little mileage. If they sound bad then replace them.

Getting it down to the timing belt is a pretty time consuming job so that's why most places will recommend to change those parts.

A first timer, well.. probably a day or two with some breaks, depending how much you have done on your 3.0 prior to this. You gotta remove a lot of parts to get room in there.

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the cone washers are EASY to get off !!! almost 'self removal' !

back the nuts almost off- tap the hub on the side / beside the cone washers- they will pop out !!!!!! (i say to leave the nuts on, cause the cone washers will pop off and get lost ! )

My method is to smack the outside of the hub (not very hard) and then use a small long flat head inserted into the cone washer slit, tap it a few times and pull it out. Easy!

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