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Old 03-21-2011, 08:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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22r to 20r ?s

So I need to do a lot of work on my 84 that I just acquired because the previous owner didn't take care of it. But it still got to 240,000 miles with him and now I have to tear into it.

The 20r was acquired for free and was running great when I pulled it out of the totaled truck (for free with a five speed trans) so I decided to just drop it in and see if I liked the five speed better while I build my 22r.

So the question is: will the 20r just drop in with the current oil pan and clear the little cross member for the front end? I looked at both motors beside each other today after getting the 22r out and the oil pan on the 22r is shallower in the middle area by about ~.5-.75".

Thanks for help, this forum made pulling the 22r much easier.

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I don't think that 20r is going to be much fun to drive, but good luck.
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Maybe you could put the 22R oil pan on the 20R assuming the oil pump pickup fits. I know from personal experience that both engines use the exact same oil pan gasket.

I have both a 20R and 22RE. While the 20R is somewhat (about 15-20%) less powerful, it's very smooth and a bit quieter because it has cast iron rocker arms instead of aluminum arms like the 22R. The 20R is also more rugged because it has a double row timing chain assembly and smaller diameter cylinder bores that make the engine more resistant to internal cylinder head gasket failure.
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That 20R looks like it came out of a celica (because its mid-sump)

Take it off, put the 22R oil pan and sump on the 20R.
Then sell the 20R oil pan and sump. I got 60 bucks plus shipping for mine.

Celica pan...


The 22R is obviously a truck rear sump
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Thanks for the replies but I decided to just sell off the parts and buy a 1980 Toyota I found that I really like.

The 20r pictured is not a mid-sump, it's just longer and shallower in the mid-section of the pan unlike the 22r which has a deeper rear section where the drain plug is. And I know it came out of a truck because I pulled it from the truck. Yes I could of swapped them, I had them off but decided to just give it up since the 20r spun a bearing while I was test running it before putting the work into swapping over mounts and everything to put it in the truck. I put them back together and sold them off as running but needing rebuild.

The front wheels needed bearings on both sides and all new brake lines (leaking everywhere). I wish I had kept the flat bed and positrac rear end but the guy that wanted it was mainly interested in it for those parts.

Thanks, this site has been a lot of help through my many little yota projects.
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