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Old 12-19-2012, 07:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Squeaky brakes

I had my brake pads changed for the first time at 63k miles. Now I have 87k miles. When it rains or snows the brakes squeak very loud to the point where people turn around and are like ?+)!"'π!!!

It goes away once I start driving and stop a few times.

They have always been like this even when the dealer put on them on at 63k miles, but now its much worse.

What can I do to fix this?

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I would recommend to pull the calipers off, and check to make sure there is a metal shim on the back of both the inboard and outboard pad as these are common stock items that don't get put back on the pads. I will also use brake pad silicon between the pads and the shims, as well as between the shims and the caliper piston. Remember, the "squeak" is actually the pad vibrating at the frequency you are hearing it. Anything to dampens it or changes its frequency.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would recommend to pull the calipers off, and check to make sure there is a metal shim on the back of both the inboard and outboard pad as these are common stock items that don't get put back on the pads. I will also use brake pad silicon between the pads and the shims, as well as between the shims and the caliper piston. Remember, the "squeak" is actually the pad vibrating at the frequency you are hearing it. Anything to dampens it or changes its frequency.
I would have to have my dealer do it. So I should just ask if they could check to see if the shims are still on there?

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Old 12-21-2012, 12:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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the answer from the dealer is "oh, you need a complete brake job"
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the answer from the dealer is "oh, you need a complete brake job"
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I hear you, but what is someone supposed to do who isn't a diy-er and has no dependable local shops nearby?

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did you get a chance to look at the pad and see how much pad is left?
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did you get a chance to look at the pad and see how much pad is left?
Have no clue how to do it. I'm not really someone who is comfortable taking things apart (especially like this) to look at it.

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did you get a chance to look at the pad and see how much pad is left?
According to other forums (and Toyota) the squeaking is actually normal since it only happens right on the start. It goes away after the second stop. Overall it just gets annoying and it is very loud.

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dino--I'd agree that although the noise may not cause any physical harm, it is annoying. I talk to the dealer or whomever did the recent brake job and get them to verify the correct pads were installed and that the recommended anti-squeal shims and anti-squeal lubricant/paste was applied. It should neither be expensive or time consuming for them to verify.

Other can verify--but aren't the OEM pads ceramic composite?
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dino--I'd agree that although the noise may not cause any physical harm, it is annoying. I talk to the dealer or whomever did the recent brake job and get them to verify the correct pads were installed and that the recommended anti-squeal shims and anti-squeal lubricant/paste was applied. It should neither be expensive or time consuming for them to verify.

Other can verify--but aren't the OEM pads ceramic composite?
They were replaced at just over 60k miles and now I have 87k miles. Dealer keeps saying the squeak is normal because of the condensation on the pads. Nothing more they can really do. Its been like this since the pads were replaced.

I just can't believe the brakes squeak this loud. It does go away after a fee minutes of driving, but as I was saying earlier they squeak so loud that people turn around like "what the heck is that %*+!=_"



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If you're not a DIY'er, you pay AGAIN dearly and have another shop replace everything. Source your own parts.

A good car wash is a great way to remove dirt/crud caused squeaks.

Since you went to the dealer, list the parts that were replaced from your receipt. Sounds like a dealer hack job to me.
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If you're not a DIY'er, you pay AGAIN dearly and have another shop replace everything. Source your own parts.

A good car wash is a great way to remove dirt/crud caused squeaks.

Since you went to the dealer, list the parts that were replaced from your receipt. Sounds like a dealer hack job to me.
It says the pads were replaced and all of the rotors were machined.

Front brakes
Brake cleaner part 02
Tcmc brake pad w-Shim 04465AZ012TM

Rear brakes
Pad kit, disc brake 0446648060


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Nothing wrong with turning rotors. But, with the cost of new rotors these days, not worth it. Just get new rotors, pads, from your local autopart store and find an independent mech to install the parts. The mech should also do a complete brake bleed. And, if anything else needs replacing, address it then. Dust boots... might need replacing. Pins need greasing... Anti-rattle clips need replacing. Tension/retaining springs often lost and not reinstalled....

Most autopart stores have a quiet pad that should work well. Many newer pads come with preinstalled shims.

Sounds to me that the dealer tech took some shortcuts and now you're enjoying the end result.

Try re-bedding your ol' brakes by follow any of the online brake bedding processes.
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the only other thing that I can think of is the brake pad clips.

Over the holiday, I replaced my pad and rotor on my 05 Sienna. I noticed one of the clip has a broken "leg", since I don't want to wait for the special order, I just put it back on.

Once I put it back, I noticed that little clip "moved" out a bit and it caught the rotor. I had to push it back and forth a few times. I was thinking to order the clip later on but so far no noise.
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Should I put on the anti squeal compound if the squeal only happens off the start? It goes away after I brake a few times and only when there is moisture on the pads.

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