LunarMist 01-30-2006, 02:29 PM 2007 Lexus ES350
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/2007_Lexus_ES350-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/2007_Lexus_ES350-2.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/2007_Lexus_ES350-3.jpg
Coming Soon: A New ES.
With all the excitement surrounding the recent introduction of the new LS 460, GS 450h, and IS, one could be forgiven for wondering if other Lexus models—like the ES—have been forgotten. Hardly. In fact, the ES has been completely redesigned as the 2007 ES 350.
Like other redesigned Lexus models, the new ES 350 sports what the chief engineer calls as “confident” new look, thanks in part to a wider stance and wheels repositioned closer to the vehicle’s corners. The ES 350 has a larger wheelbase and a wider track, both of which help enhance the vehicle’s handling and increases the interior space.
Designers also equipped the ES 350 with an array of new Lexus features, such as the keyless SmartAccess system with push-button ignition, the backup camera, Bluetooth® technology that gives drivers hands-free cell phone access (with compatible cell phones), and options such as swivel headlamps that turn with the road and a DVD Navigation System with the latest graphics and points of interest.
Under the hood, a larger 3.5-liter V6 engine, complete with Variable Valve Timing with Intelligence (VVT-i) for maximum engine efficiency, produces 275 horsepower—a 50-horsepower increase from the ES 330’s engine. The vehicle also includes a six-speed automatic transmission with sequential shifting, which improves overall vehicle performance and fuel efficiency.
Enhanced safety features include driver and front passenger knee airbags, a direct-type tire pressure monitor, and Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) with Traction Control. Plus, options abound--leather seats equipped with the Lexus Memory System, a glass roof, a power rear sunshade, and heated and ventilated front seats. (Most of these items will be included in a new ultra luxury package). Look for the 2007 ES 350 to arrive in dealerships this spring.
I hope you all notice the double moonroof in the second pic. SWEEET!
Ruffrydasean 01-30-2006, 02:40 PM Hot damn, that SOB looks sexy.. I'd like one of Each L badged car now please...
CACressida 01-30-2006, 04:05 PM This ES makes us all bite our tungs for sayin harsh crap about the ES' Seriously the outgoing model was a mistake on wheels. Looked like a boat with camry styling. This one looks sexy from the front but im not liking that lil tiny image of the back.
lexusis350 01-30-2006, 04:58 PM yes, its official. Was on a different forum. Copied from a magazine from Lexus from FLA.
Tideland Prius 01-30-2006, 06:21 PM This is how the ES should be. It looks just as stylish as the 97-01 version. I don't know if I like the steering wheel. I probably have to see it in real life but the spoke pointing downwards seems like they took the design out of some beautifully crafted sword. It just needs a crease down the centre lol.
AvalonMan96 01-30-2006, 09:08 PM Hot damn, that SOB looks sexy
:werd: :thumbsup:
:hititsign
drunken_panda 01-30-2006, 10:32 PM Why is half the instrument cluster mirrored? Compared the left and right sides. Also there are 2 cruise sticks and two black retangle things, kinda fishy to me.
NYLexSC 01-30-2006, 10:51 PM That picture was just photoshopped to present a more full view of what the full interior might look like. The right side of that image is the actual image which appeared in the magazine.
Weird, the thread about ES350 in clublexus has gone!?
The pictures are already everywhere. :lol:
Lord_Anarchy 01-31-2006, 02:53 AM Toyota's poppin' the clutch on their designs. I guess they figured that they have so much cash, they might as well take some risks. I don't blame them. They've been conservative for tooooooo long. I do know that I miss an MR platform and a two-door sports coupe (Celica.. if you want to dub it that). Is the Toyota Chaser still being made? I'd love one of those bad boys... Mmmmmmm:)
dna59 01-31-2006, 09:04 AM Damn that's one beautiful car. I love the double moonroof, that's damn sick.
Bluesman 01-31-2006, 09:19 AM http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8250/mw5sog7ii.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7974/mw5sn75qh.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/271/mw5snp8nd.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/307/mw5sox4hc.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8753/mw5sp31nu.jpg
LunarMist 01-31-2006, 09:27 AM Wow Bluesman. Those pics are wonderful. The 3rd pic took me for a spin because it made the back look really ugly. Then I opened the 4th pic and my opinion totally changed. Nice car. Finally Lexus! This is the 1st time in the history of Lexus that I would proudly drive their entire sedan line-up from the IS-ES-GS-LS...especially the LS!
Bluesman 01-31-2006, 09:43 AM As somebody said on another forum, the front has a touch of RL in it.....
ECHOKnight2000 01-31-2006, 12:51 PM Very nice looking. I don't know if I'm feeling the rear but maybe when more pictures come out official or not I might warm up to it. But certainly a good improvement over the current gen. I agree there is some Acura RL in there (the front) but it may be just the angles.:thumbup:
oh, Lexus failed this time! Not feeling luxury as usual ES!
Avalonman 01-31-2006, 01:42 PM Is there a way that you all can upload these to the gallery?
lexusis350 01-31-2006, 04:21 PM http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_b8007_1.jpg (http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b8007_1.jpg)http://img128.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_95d1d_2.jpg (http://img128.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=95d1d_2.jpg)http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_6ec2f_3.jpg (http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=6ec2f_3.jpg)http://img142.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_9360f_4.jpg (http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=9360f_4.jpg)
http://img144.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_6c515_5.jpg (http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=6c515_5.jpg)
Looks pretty good. The tail lights look very similar to the 2002 model.
Tideland Prius 01-31-2006, 05:47 PM Very nice. So it did look like that photoshopped pic, just less Kia-like. The back has some Infiniti M series (just ignore the taillights and look at the last pic). It also looks much more substantial, more of a heavyweight look to it but not overkill like the M35/45.
TRD4EVR 01-31-2006, 09:14 PM Panaromic moonroof? The top is all black like the Scion tC (standard panaromic moonroof).
CACressida 01-31-2006, 10:24 PM oh, Lexus failed this time! Not feeling luxury as usual ES!
Watever your on, u better use alil less of it. The new ES is now a car a person would actually wanna be seen in. All but the 4th Gen ES' look good. The 4th gen is a giant potato wedge. Hideous, with cheap looking door panel design. This car is very good looking.
HoboJoe 01-31-2006, 11:35 PM Very, very nice.
reyrey127 01-31-2006, 11:44 PM it was mentioned that the engine produced 275 horsepower but i thought the same 2gr-fe was going into the es350. shouldn't the horsepower be the same or are they tuning the engine to produce a bit more power? thanks.
BlueCam 01-31-2006, 11:58 PM i think they'll give it some more HP...that way, distunguishing it from say, a cam XLE.
fungke 02-01-2006, 01:40 AM As somebody said on another forum, the front has a touch of RL in it.....
i feel the same way...
yeah..the rear is not the greatest....
i kinda don't like the center console either...looks very...i just don't like the shape.
Blacksupra93 02-01-2006, 03:04 AM so why's it only rated 275hp? the is350 has 306...the is350 is using the new rating system right?
thats a major difference out of the same engine.
Bluesman 02-01-2006, 07:09 AM Check this pictures from another Lexus forum
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198347&page=6&pp=15
91MR2quickNA 02-01-2006, 07:50 AM so why's it only rated 275hp? the is350 has 306...the is350 is using the new rating system right?
thats a major difference out of the same engine.
It's not the same, exact engine. The engine is reworked for the IS350.
2GR-FE = FWD
2GR-FSE = RWD, direct and port injection, higher compression pistons, better tuning
AvalonMan96 02-01-2006, 03:50 PM Like I said before...
:hititsign
Can't wait to see it in some darker colors...
iaussi 02-01-2006, 04:02 PM I am speechless! If you look through the clublexus pictures, you can see the moon roof is panoramic and slides out like a tc. But overall very nice, the design is pretty much inline with their production line.:clap:
Jaggrey 02-01-2006, 04:05 PM How much wind noise do u think the roof will create when open? How much is there with the tC?
Watever your on, u better use alil less of it. The new ES is now a car a person would actually wanna be seen in. All but the 4th Gen ES' look good. The 4th gen is a giant potato wedge. Hideous, with cheap looking door panel design. This car is very good looking.
Relax, I still have right to express my disppointment,right? The current gen ES looks very luxury and upgrade in my eyes. Hideous???
LunarMist 02-01-2006, 06:51 PM http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/2007LexusES-Moonroof.jpg
TRD04IS 02-01-2006, 07:31 PM looking at the pic closely it doesn't seem to have a lot of L-Finesse in the design. maybe its the size of the pic but its still a great improvemnt from the 4th gen ES. i have to say the best looking ES was the 3rd gen and this is very close. i have to see it in person to give it my full :thumbup:.
also, what's with the the thumb center dash design?
msm20032003 02-01-2006, 08:02 PM I think I like it...but the question is now whether I should buy the IS, ES or Camry....
BlueFusion6851 02-01-2006, 08:08 PM It looks very, very nice.
Too bad Lexus' price is such a premium over Toyota. :sosad:
msm20032003 02-01-2006, 08:32 PM Hmmm... I wonder how much it will cost. Do you think it will be more than the IS?
Tideland Prius 02-02-2006, 12:55 AM I think I like it...but the question is now whether I should buy the IS, ES or Camry....
Depends on the pricing I suppose. The IS is very very tempting at the moment.
CorollaDX-R 02-02-2006, 05:51 AM looks like a RL up front... but i still like it especially the interior
TRD04IS 02-02-2006, 11:26 AM How much wind noise do u think the roof will create when open? How much is there with the tC?
i would assume that the ES would have more sound deading materials than the tC. lexus will make sure its as quiet if not quieter than the current gen ES.
Lexusfan2007 02-02-2006, 03:32 PM Does the new ES come with all wheel drive?
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/2007LexusES-Moonroof.jpg
not feeling the panoramic roof at all, may be its me, i never care too much about the moon roof etc...
overall this is the best looking ES so far, its far better than i've imagined it.
props to lexus:clap:
just got myself an 06 avalon, may be in 2-3 years i will be looking at the ES when its plentiful to be had at or near invoice.:cool:
dsmnick 02-03-2006, 02:53 AM http://i1.tinypic.com/mw5sog.jpg
I don't like the interior at all. The shape of the center stack is odd. The wood looks nice, but there is so much gray material, especially such a vast expanse of it. Besides the wood and radio cluster, the interior design screams GM vehicle circa 1995. Dash colored vents look very cheap in a luxury car as well. The Zephyr is a direct comparison for the ES, and its interior beats it, hands down IMHO. Maybe I need to see some photos shot with professional lighting before I judge, but based on what I see in this picture, I'm not very impressed with the ES interior.
http://www.lincoln.com/zephyr/img/main_int_13.jpg
http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/LincolnZephyr/Images/Dash.jpg
chindo 02-03-2006, 09:09 AM I am not feeling the ES' interior either. The rounded shape does look weird. Maybe it looks better in person. Other than that, I think Toyota did a good job with this ES. Much better looking than the last gen.
CACressida 02-03-2006, 02:07 PM I'm not liking the tear drop design, and yes, the grey is too much. But since its a Lexus, the interior materials are top-notch. The Zephyrs dash is squared off like a 1990 Crown Victoria. The wood amount is similar to what benz would use...not enough. But props to Ford for putting the e-brake where its supposed to be, on the center console.
dsmnick 02-03-2006, 03:13 PM I'm not liking the tear drop design, and yes, the grey is too much. But since its a Lexus, the interior materials are top-notch. The Zephyrs dash is squared off like a 1990 Crown Victoria. The wood amount is similar to what benz would use...not enough. But props to Ford for putting the e-brake where its supposed to be, on the center console.
The squared dash is actually based off the 1961 Continental dash. Notice how the instrument guage and passenger side of the dash are both recessed in a rectangular housing like the current Zephyr. It's not flowing like Lexus's interiors, but that's not a bad thing either...it all depends on one's taste.
http://www.lovefords.org/61linc/images/61_linc_wheel.jpg
http://www.hubcapcafe.com/i/2003/blaine/linc6201b.jpg
http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/LincolnZephyr/Images/Dash.jpg
silver04rollas 02-04-2006, 12:12 AM Sorry, but the front end is a blatant (rather shameless) rip off of Acura RL. I was confused for a second as whether there was a mistake or not since it looked like a picture of RL to me. The IS 250/350 is a great looking car, but this ES is very disappointing.
LunarMist 02-04-2006, 10:47 AM Sorry, but the front end is a blatant (rather shameless) rip off of Acura RL. I was confused for a second as whether there was a mistake or not since it looked like a picture of RL to me. The IS 250/350 is a great looking car, but this ES is very disappointing.
Well unless you were part of the Toyot/Lexus design team and you just so happen to know when work was begun on new ES, you shouldn't make such comments. This comment is just as ignorant as the one's where people keep saying Toyota copied Mazda when designing the new Camry when in all actuality Mazda copied Toyota.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/2007LexusES-FrontView.jpghttp://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/AcuraRL.jpg
TRD4EVR 02-04-2006, 11:16 AM I hope Toyota used better glass than on the tC panaromic moonroof. NHTSA investigated the tC's moonroof deflector breaking part and pieces falling down towards the occupants. Toyota had a service to place a layer of thick plastic piece under the deflector to minimize this occurance. IMO, I don't think it's the design. Mercedes used similar moonroof design on their C230(?).
Well unless you were part of the Toyot/Lexus design team and you just so happen to know when work was begun on new ES, you shouldn't make such comments. This comment is just as ignorant as the one's where people keep saying Toyota copied Mazda when designing the new Camry when in all actuality Mazda copied Toyota.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/2007LexusES-FrontView.jpghttp://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/Neno8403/AcuraRL.jpg
very well said, :clap: toyota is a very successful company that manufactures quality automobiles, this includes the lexus line of automobile, and it is very much a benchmark for most other japanese car manufacturer. every japanese car manufacturer is trying to copy and build cars like toyotas to increase sales and market shares.:)
dsmnick 02-04-2006, 12:46 PM Well unless you were part of the Toyot/Lexus design team and you just so happen to know when work was begun on new ES, you shouldn't make such comments. This comment is just as ignorant as the one's where people keep saying Toyota copied Mazda when designing the new Camry when in all actuality Mazda copied Toyota.
Are you talking about during the design stage? Because if that were the case and Mazda copied Toyota, how did they get get the MPV (the Camry grille's biggest influence) out in 2004 and Toyota is just getting the new Camry out in 2007. Mazda would have obviously begun designing 3-4 years BEFORE the 2004 release, when the '07 Camry wasn't even on the drawing boards.
Lexus has been quietly taking cues from Mercedes and BMW for years. The L-Finesse design theory is based heavily off Chris Bangle's design for BMW. Just look at things like the way the hood flows into the A-pillar, the rear deck lid, etc...it's all Chris Bangle. And in the early 90s, the way Lexus got a foothold in the market was by building Japanese Mercedes-Benzes.
http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/bmw_7series_review_3q.jpghttp://www.cardata.com/spoilers/images/dr-324_BMW_2003-2005_7-Series_custom_lip_mount_spoiler.jpg
Tell me how Mazda copied Toyota, please...I would really like to know.
Tideland Prius 02-04-2006, 12:58 PM I think you'll have to look at Toyota's Asian vehicles. I recall someone saying that the design was out already but only in Asia so obviously to us N. Americans, this design is 'new' and it seemed like Mazda copied Toyota.
Besides, the new Camry was already under development in 2003.
84Cressida 02-04-2006, 01:54 PM He's right, the design was already out in overseas cars. Lexus doesn't look like Mercedes & BMW at all.
CACressida 02-04-2006, 02:45 PM And in the early 90s, the way Lexus got a foothold in the market was by building Japanese Mercedes-Benzes.
First off, if you compare the 1990 Lexus LS400, inside and out, it looks nothing like Mercedes Benz or BMW. The Lexus LS400 if you compare, respectively looks like the Toyota Cressida. It uses a modified, stretched and widened Cressida platform. The yellow foglights by the grill arent Mercedes idea either, Toyota haas had them before. Same with the ES 250, looks exactly like the Camry, wich uses its platform. Mercedes-Benz had headlight wipers, well, Toyota had driver and passenger wipers on the windows way before Mercedes ever thougth about putting them on the headlights. Toyota has had headlight sprayers too way before anyone else, but these features were only in Japan. You know that flat screen dispay you see in almost ever SUV and van hangin off the cieling? Well, back in 1989, Toyotas accessories for the Japanese Cressida included a flat screen color tv hangin from the cieling.
aznstylez 02-04-2006, 03:20 PM loving the exterior design but not the interior. no square dash is gonna lure me into the car but I'm still gonna hit it with a car cover on...:lol: :lol:
84Cressida 02-04-2006, 03:42 PM Are you talking about during the design stage? Because if that were the case and Mazda copied Toyota, how did they get get the MPV (the Camry grille's biggest influence) out in 2004 and Toyota is just getting the new Camry out in 2007. Mazda would have obviously begun designing 3-4 years BEFORE the 2004 release, when the '07 Camry wasn't even on the drawing boards.
Lexus has been quietly taking cues from Mercedes and BMW for years. The L-Finesse design theory is based heavily off Chris Bangle's design for BMW. Just look at things like the way the hood flows into the A-pillar, the rear deck lid, etc...it's all Chris Bangle. And in the early 90s, the way Lexus got a foothold in the market was by building Japanese Mercedes-Benzes.
http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/bmw_7series_review_3q.jpghttp://www.cardata.com/spoilers/images/dr-324_BMW_2003-2005_7-Series_custom_lip_mount_spoiler.jpg
Tell me how Mazda copied Toyota, please...I would really like to know.
Lexus got a foothold because the cars were soooooo luxurious, reliable, and had style. Why would Lexus benchmark Mercedes? They're junk, overrated, and a ripoff.
Tideland Prius 02-04-2006, 04:52 PM It's OT but ever noticed that if you look at the 6 series in profile and open the bootlid, it looks like a 911 Carrera?
Lasse D 02-04-2006, 06:20 PM You will always find people in on-line forums who say a new design copies something else. They say that about all cars!
(The funny ones are them who provide pictures of the cars which often disproves their assumptions, or as in the case with Camry vs. Mazda finds out Toyota was first.)
If you Americans had the new Renault Clio, I will swear someone would say the new Yaris 'steals' the rear end of the Clio. Don't blame those people - the Yaris and Clio have a striking resemblance!
But that is not because one copied the other. Both cars were designed at the same time in roughly the same area (Southern France) - they are simply products of the time having cues reflecting what's 'in' at the moment.
The new ES builds more on the lines from the SC, but with L-finesse making the lines sharper and more modern.
So it has the same hood lines as some Honda? Wow. It does! Good finding. Now take a cookie and congratulate yourself.
Christ!
HoboJoe 02-04-2006, 11:20 PM Lexus got a foothold because the cars were soooooo luxurious, reliable, and had style. Why would Lexus benchmark Mercedes? They're junk, overrated, and a ripoff.
Nicely said. Mercedes is all image wrapped in a poorly executed package. Ideas, sure, they're great. But what use is your car going to be when it breaks down? Mercedes have horrible reliability ratings, as does BMW.
jimmykce1 02-05-2006, 08:53 AM whats the torque on the new ES since the horsperwore is going to be 275HP? Also is it RWD or FWD?
CACressida 02-05-2006, 05:09 PM I know this maybe alil off topic, but since were talking about copy cats, heres an example. People say the Lexus LS is a copy of Mercedes Benz top of the line sedan, the S-Class... Think for a second. Take a look at both before you even speak.
1990 S-Class
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2243000-2243999/2243204_16_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2243000-2243999/2243204_7_full.jpg
1990 Lexus LS
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/667000-667999/667027_13_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/667000-667999/667027_8_full.jpg
Lexusfreak 02-05-2006, 05:24 PM Hate to say it, the dash of the new Camry looks a lot better than the ES. :disappoin
Avalonman 02-05-2006, 05:45 PM ^^Don't hate to say the truth.
Tideland Prius 02-06-2006, 01:03 AM I know this maybe alil off topic, but since were talking about copy cats, heres an example. People say the Lexus LS is a copy of Mercedes Benz top of the line sedan, the S-Class... Think for a second. Take a look at both before you even speak.
1990 S-Class
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2243000-2243999/2243204_16_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2243000-2243999/2243204_7_full.jpg
1990 Lexus LS
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/667000-667999/667027_13_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/667000-667999/667027_8_full.jpg
All I can see is the steering wheel. The LS looks very very Japanese to me in design.
TRD04IS 02-06-2006, 12:09 PM I hope Toyota used better glass than on the tC panaromic moonroof. NHTSA investigated the tC's moonroof deflector breaking part and pieces falling down towards the occupants. Toyota had a service to place a layer of thick plastic piece under the deflector to minimize this occurance. IMO, I don't think it's the design. Mercedes used similar moonroof design on their C230(?).
the TSB on the defelector was just a precaution on Toyota's part. there was no real world evidence of the defelector cracking or breaking while driving. we do get a lot of people coming in our service dept about how someone vandalized the deflector while it was open.
in the 21 months since the tC release we've had one owner come in with a star on the deflector and all we did was patch it up to prevent it from getting bigger. of course that's natural for any forward facing glass on an automobile.
TRD04IS 02-06-2006, 12:12 PM everyone copies designs from one another. just look at how the new LS and S-Class has some bangle cues in its rear quarter. all designers whether its cars, homes, furnitures get their ideas from other designers or designs.
msm20032003 02-07-2006, 06:55 PM I wish I knew how much this thing is going to cost.... I have a family member that works at a Toyota plant so I can get Toyota, Lexus, and Scion vehicles at 3% below invoice:) . On my 2004 Sienna which was roughly 35,500 MSRP it dropped it to only 30,000. So... I wonder how much more the ES will be than 35 grand.
AvalonMan96 02-07-2006, 10:22 PM http://pressroom.toyota.com/Releases/View?id=TYT2006020721324
An 80-foot tall mechanical flower "blooming" in Chicago?
From the Toyota Pressroom:
"The mechanical flower is part of the public launch of the all-new, fifth-generation Lexus ES 350 luxury sedan, which debuts at this year's Chicago Auto Show on February 8th, will be on display from 5 a.m. until 9 p.m. on Tuesday, February 7th."
WTF?! :confused:
This site has pics of the flower, but not the car (as of yet, anyway) : http://www.2007ES.com
Jaggrey 02-07-2006, 11:02 PM well we kno it's not sport-themed :D
Please continue this discussion in the official 2007 Lexus ES350 thread. (http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t120834.html) :)
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