1995 corolla--need maintenance tips

Anyone ever own a 95 corolla, MANUAL. How often did you have to have a
tuneup and change the oil. Any other tips for this car...oil
treatments (STP) or gas treatments that should be added? We're well
over 100K miles now.

"slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone ever own a 95 corolla, MANUAL. How often did you have to have a
> tuneup and change the oil. Any other tips for this car...oil
> treatments (STP) or gas treatments that should be added? We're well
> over 100K miles now.
>

You can go to www.toyota.com and under the "Owners" link get the factory
recommended maintenance schedule for your car.

I do not recommend any oil treatments - it is better to use a motor oil with
API grade SL or higher and follow the factory recommended oil change
intervals.

I also do not recommend routine use of any gas treatment, especially "dry
gas" treatments that are supposed to remove water from your system. The
alcohol in dry gas additives can degrade the rubber gaskets and hoses in
your fuel system. You should purchase gas from places that sell a large
quantity and so are less likely to have water buildup in their tanks. If
you car is fuel injected, occasional (no more than once a year) use of
Chevron Techron or the Toyota branded stuff that Toyota dealers sell
wouldn't hurt.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Heet" is a non alcoholic form of dry gas. toyota.com does not give
maintenance for a 1995 corolla

"slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Heet" is a non alcoholic form of dry gas. toyota.com does not give
> maintenance for a 1995 corolla
>

There is no need to use Heet or any fuel additive on a regular basis. Not
only is it a waste of money, I've seen the results of some treatments where
they have actually caused problems.

For routine maintenance, you can follow the on line recommendations for the
97 Corolla.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
tank

"slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
> tank
>

I once looked at a 2 year old car where the customer was complaining of poor
performance, like the fuel filter was clogged. When the dealership removed
the fuel filter, the gas that came out was pitch black. It turned out that
the customer put a bottle of Heet into the gas tank once a week because he
always did it in his other cars and never had water in the tank. The
continuous use of the Heet apparently started to eat away at the fuel lines,
and the dissolved stuff clogged the fuel filter.

If you get water in the gas tank, have a service facility drain the water.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote:

>okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
>tank

Which raises a question...you can add 'gas line antifreeze' to
your automobile fuel tank in the winter...this 'handles' the
problem of a frozen fuel line. How does that work?, does the
substance mix with any water in the line and prevent it from
freezing?, or does it cause the water to be consumed somehow?...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
>>tank
>
> Which raises a question...you can add 'gas line antifreeze' to
> your automobile fuel tank in the winter...this 'handles' the
> problem of a frozen fuel line. How does that work?, does the
> substance mix with any water in the line and prevent it from
> freezing?, or does it cause the water to be consumed somehow?...
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)

Yes and yes. Water doesn't mix with gas but it does mix with alcohol, which
has a lower freezing temp than straight water. The water/alcohol then gets
burned in the engine. The alcohol also has a tendency to eat rubber, which
tends to gunk things up.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:

>
>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>news:k3vj229mm6cld7abp9n7n6ort1dusr9875@4ax.com...
>> "slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
>>>tank
>>
>> Which raises a question...you can add 'gas line antifreeze' to
>> your automobile fuel tank in the winter...this 'handles' the
>> problem of a frozen fuel line. How does that work?, does the
>> substance mix with any water in the line and prevent it from
>> freezing?, or does it cause the water to be consumed somehow?...
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)
>
>Yes and yes. Water doesn't mix with gas but it does mix with alcohol, which
>has a lower freezing temp than straight water. The water/alcohol then gets
>burned in the engine. The alcohol also has a tendency to eat rubber, which
>tends to gunk things up.

Ok Ray fine...now another (although slightly OT). I'm selling my
house, our laws force me to have a 'tagged oil tank', (inspected,
lifed etc). I had to replace it, the rules specify that the new
one must be slightly inclined down toward the feed end, the
outlet is now on the very bottom of the tank (not the 'end' and
there's no filter there (it's on the furnace inside the house).
In other words, there's no place for any water to go but into the
line where it gets trapped (Of necessity the feed line is
outside the house and the lowest (outside) point in the system).

Now then, can one use 'gas line antifreeze' in a home heating
furnace oil tank?...I think it'd be ok but I'd like your (and any
other) opinion. Thanks.


--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
news:6u1l22db9irs2at46cfdn73da3jb99m3ho@4ax.com...
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>news:k3vj229mm6cld7abp9n7n6ort1dusr9875@4ax.com...
>>> "slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
>>>>tank
>>>
>>> Which raises a question...you can add 'gas line antifreeze' to
>>> your automobile fuel tank in the winter...this 'handles' the
>>> problem of a frozen fuel line. How does that work?, does the
>>> substance mix with any water in the line and prevent it from
>>> freezing?, or does it cause the water to be consumed somehow?...
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.
>>> (use gordon in email)
>>
>>Yes and yes. Water doesn't mix with gas but it does mix with alcohol,
>>which
>>has a lower freezing temp than straight water. The water/alcohol then
>>gets
>>burned in the engine. The alcohol also has a tendency to eat rubber,
>>which
>>tends to gunk things up.
>
> Ok Ray fine...now another (although slightly OT). I'm selling my
> house, our laws force me to have a 'tagged oil tank', (inspected,
> lifed etc). I had to replace it, the rules specify that the new
> one must be slightly inclined down toward the feed end, the
> outlet is now on the very bottom of the tank (not the 'end' and
> there's no filter there (it's on the furnace inside the house).
> In other words, there's no place for any water to go but into the
> line where it gets trapped (Of necessity the feed line is
> outside the house and the lowest (outside) point in the system).
>
> Now then, can one use 'gas line antifreeze' in a home heating
> furnace oil tank?...I think it'd be ok but I'd like your (and any
> other) opinion. Thanks.
>
>
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)

I'm no expert on home oil fired heaters although we had one in our last
house. I don't know how quickly the fuel oil moves through the line, but I
imagine that one of the reasons that the tank has to be inclined toward the
feed end is so that any water that has accumulated in the tank will get
purged through the line. I've never heard of a home heating oil system
having a frozen line, so I suspect that the any moisture buildup is not
enough to freeze up. My brother in law lives outside of Portland, Maine, and
his tank is outside the house. I've never heard him mention any problems
with fuel delivery. I don't think a home heating oil system has any rubber
lines or gaskets since everything has a flared or compression fitting, so
using "dry gas" should be ok from a rubber standpoint but I don't know how
it would perform in the burner.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

'Dry Gas' is alcohol, it will burn off

mike


"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>
> "Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:6u1l22db9irs2at46cfdn73da3jb99m3ho@4ax.com...
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>>news:k3vj229mm6cld7abp9n7n6ort1dusr9875@4ax.com...
>>>> "slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
>>>>>tank
>>>>
>>>> Which raises a question...you can add 'gas line antifreeze' to
>>>> your automobile fuel tank in the winter...this 'handles' the
>>>> problem of a frozen fuel line. How does that work?, does the
>>>> substance mix with any water in the line and prevent it from
>>>> freezing?, or does it cause the water to be consumed somehow?...
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Gord.
>>>> (use gordon in email)
>>>
>>>Yes and yes. Water doesn't mix with gas but it does mix with alcohol,
>>>which
>>>has a lower freezing temp than straight water. The water/alcohol then
>>>gets
>>>burned in the engine. The alcohol also has a tendency to eat rubber,
>>>which
>>>tends to gunk things up.
>>
>> Ok Ray fine...now another (although slightly OT). I'm selling my
>> house, our laws force me to have a 'tagged oil tank', (inspected,
>> lifed etc). I had to replace it, the rules specify that the new
>> one must be slightly inclined down toward the feed end, the
>> outlet is now on the very bottom of the tank (not the 'end' and
>> there's no filter there (it's on the furnace inside the house).
>> In other words, there's no place for any water to go but into the
>> line where it gets trapped (Of necessity the feed line is
>> outside the house and the lowest (outside) point in the system).
>>
>> Now then, can one use 'gas line antifreeze' in a home heating
>> furnace oil tank?...I think it'd be ok but I'd like your (and any
>> other) opinion. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)
>
> I'm no expert on home oil fired heaters although we had one in our last
> house. I don't know how quickly the fuel oil moves through the line, but
> I imagine that one of the reasons that the tank has to be inclined toward
> the feed end is so that any water that has accumulated in the tank will
> get purged through the line. I've never heard of a home heating oil
> system having a frozen line, so I suspect that the any moisture buildup is
> not enough to freeze up. My brother in law lives outside of Portland,
> Maine, and his tank is outside the house. I've never heard him mention
> any problems with fuel delivery. I don't think a home heating oil system
> has any rubber lines or gaskets since everything has a flared or
> compression fitting, so using "dry gas" should be ok from a rubber
> standpoint but I don't know how it would perform in the burner.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

The recommended additive for oil furnaces is diesel oil conditioner.
This is supposed to absorb water and prevent sludge. I add one gallon
when I fill the tank in the spring.


---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:

>
>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>news:6u1l22db9irs2at46cfdn73da3jb99m3ho@4ax.com...
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>>news:k3vj229mm6cld7abp9n7n6ort1dusr9875@4ax.com...
>>>> "slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
>>>>>tank
>>>>
>>>> Which raises a question...you can add 'gas line antifreeze' to
>>>> your automobile fuel tank in the winter...this 'handles' the
>>>> problem of a frozen fuel line. How does that work?, does the
>>>> substance mix with any water in the line and prevent it from
>>>> freezing?, or does it cause the water to be consumed somehow?...
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Gord.
>>>> (use gordon in email)
>>>
>>>Yes and yes. Water doesn't mix with gas but it does mix with alcohol,
>>>which
>>>has a lower freezing temp than straight water. The water/alcohol then
>>>gets
>>>burned in the engine. The alcohol also has a tendency to eat rubber,
>>>which
>>>tends to gunk things up.
>>
>> Ok Ray fine...now another (although slightly OT). I'm selling my
>> house, our laws force me to have a 'tagged oil tank', (inspected,
>> lifed etc). I had to replace it, the rules specify that the new
>> one must be slightly inclined down toward the feed end, the
>> outlet is now on the very bottom of the tank (not the 'end' and
>> there's no filter there (it's on the furnace inside the house).
>> In other words, there's no place for any water to go but into the
>> line where it gets trapped (Of necessity the feed line is
>> outside the house and the lowest (outside) point in the system).
>>
>> Now then, can one use 'gas line antifreeze' in a home heating
>> furnace oil tank?...I think it'd be ok but I'd like your (and any
>> other) opinion. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)
>
>I'm no expert on home oil fired heaters although we had one in our last
>house. I don't know how quickly the fuel oil moves through the line, but I
>imagine that one of the reasons that the tank has to be inclined toward the
>feed end is so that any water that has accumulated in the tank will get
>purged through the line. I've never heard of a home heating oil system
>having a frozen line, so I suspect that the any moisture buildup is not
>enough to freeze up. My brother in law lives outside of Portland, Maine, and
>his tank is outside the house. I've never heard him mention any problems
>with fuel delivery. I don't think a home heating oil system has any rubber
>lines or gaskets since everything has a flared or compression fitting, so
>using "dry gas" should be ok from a rubber standpoint but I don't know how
>it would perform in the burner.

Ok...thanks for your thoughts...I believe though that there's
lots of water available, I think the tank has lots of condensed
water collect on the inside during several years. (11 in this
case) I know that my old tank was tilted slightly 'away' from the
outlet and that the outlet was at the bottom 'end' of the tank. I
watched as the guys disconnected then tipped the old tank out of
it's cradle. There was a great 'clanking' as the tank turned over
and the workers remarked "there musta been 10 gallons of ice
inside of it".

Anyway, I'll let the new owner know...and thanks for your
thoughts Ray...ps, what's this 'dry gas'?...I'm not familiar with
it...likely its 'gas line deicer'?...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

twinmountain@webtv.net (---MIKE---) wrote:

>The recommended additive for oil furnaces is diesel oil conditioner.
>This is supposed to absorb water and prevent sludge. I add one gallon
>when I fill the tank in the spring.
>
>
Thanks Mike, I'll make a note of that...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>news:6u1l22db9irs2at46cfdn73da3jb99m3ho@4ax.com...
>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gord Beaman" <gord@islandtelecom.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:k3vj229mm6cld7abp9n7n6ort1dusr9875@4ax.com...
>>>>> "slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>okay, will follow your advice---just hope I never get water in the gas
>>>>>>tank
>>>>>
>>>>> Which raises a question...you can add 'gas line antifreeze' to
>>>>> your automobile fuel tank in the winter...this 'handles' the
>>>>> problem of a frozen fuel line. How does that work?, does the
>>>>> substance mix with any water in the line and prevent it from
>>>>> freezing?, or does it cause the water to be consumed somehow?...
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> -Gord.
>>>>> (use gordon in email)
>>>>
>>>>Yes and yes. Water doesn't mix with gas but it does mix with alcohol,
>>>>which
>>>>has a lower freezing temp than straight water. The water/alcohol then
>>>>gets
>>>>burned in the engine. The alcohol also has a tendency to eat rubber,
>>>>which
>>>>tends to gunk things up.
>>>
>>> Ok Ray fine...now another (although slightly OT). I'm selling my
>>> house, our laws force me to have a 'tagged oil tank', (inspected,
>>> lifed etc). I had to replace it, the rules specify that the new
>>> one must be slightly inclined down toward the feed end, the
>>> outlet is now on the very bottom of the tank (not the 'end' and
>>> there's no filter there (it's on the furnace inside the house).
>>> In other words, there's no place for any water to go but into the
>>> line where it gets trapped (Of necessity the feed line is
>>> outside the house and the lowest (outside) point in the system).
>>>
>>> Now then, can one use 'gas line antifreeze' in a home heating
>>> furnace oil tank?...I think it'd be ok but I'd like your (and any
>>> other) opinion. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.
>>> (use gordon in email)
>>
>>I'm no expert on home oil fired heaters although we had one in our last
>>house. I don't know how quickly the fuel oil moves through the line, but
>>I
>>imagine that one of the reasons that the tank has to be inclined toward
>>the
>>feed end is so that any water that has accumulated in the tank will get
>>purged through the line. I've never heard of a home heating oil system
>>having a frozen line, so I suspect that the any moisture buildup is not
>>enough to freeze up. My brother in law lives outside of Portland, Maine,
>>and
>>his tank is outside the house. I've never heard him mention any problems
>>with fuel delivery. I don't think a home heating oil system has any
>>rubber
>>lines or gaskets since everything has a flared or compression fitting, so
>>using "dry gas" should be ok from a rubber standpoint but I don't know how
>>it would perform in the burner.
>
> Ok...thanks for your thoughts...I believe though that there's
> lots of water available, I think the tank has lots of condensed
> water collect on the inside during several years. (11 in this
> case) I know that my old tank was tilted slightly 'away' from the
> outlet and that the outlet was at the bottom 'end' of the tank. I
> watched as the guys disconnected then tipped the old tank out of
> it's cradle. There was a great 'clanking' as the tank turned over
> and the workers remarked "there musta been 10 gallons of ice
> inside of it".
>
> Anyway, I'll let the new owner know...and thanks for your
> thoughts Ray...ps, what's this 'dry gas'?...I'm not familiar with
> it...likely its 'gas line deicer'?...
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)

If the outlet is the low point, then the water *should* get used first since
it sinks under the oil. "Dry gas" is basically alcohol that is added to the
gas to mix with the water so it can be burned. Stuff like Heet is sometimes
called "dry gas."
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"---MIKE---" <twinmountain@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3366-442B24A4-109@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
Mike Hunter wrote:

>My brother in law lives outside of
> Portland, Maine, and his tank is outside >the house. I've never heard
him mention
> any problems with fuel delivery.

An outside tank in Maine would likely have kerosene added to the oil to
keep it from congealing.


---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')


Interesting that you mention kerosene. He had switched to a kerosene-fired
monitor system for a while, with a console-TV-sized heater on each floor.
He didn't like the system because the heat didn't circulate through the
house well so some rooms were stifling hot and some were cold, kind of like
heating the house with a wood stove. When he remodeled the house, he
switched back to an oil furnace. I don't know if he used the same tank that
had the kerosene for the heating oil or not. I don't think he adds kerosene
to the heating oil unless the oil company does it before delivering.
Portland, ME gets cold but nothing like the White Mountains!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

WHAT? I do not have a brother in law lives outside of Portland, Maine,
unless you considered Tennessee, Georgia and Florida 'outside.' Beside
they have NG heating systems LOL


mike hunter


"---MIKE---" <twinmountain@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3366-442B24A4-109@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
Mike Hunter wrote:

>My brother in law lives outside of
> Portland, Maine, and his tank is outside >the house. I've never heard
him mention
> any problems with fuel delivery.

An outside tank in Maine would likely have kerosene added to the oil to
keep it from congealing.


---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:fiqdnQd0OpAtZ7bZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> WHAT? I do not have a brother in law lives outside of Portland, Maine,
> unless you considered Tennessee, Georgia and Florida 'outside.' Beside
> they have NG heating systems LOL
>
>
> mike hunter
>

Having lived with coal, electric, oil, and natural gas heat, I think I'll
stick to natural gas where available!


--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

If we leave it up to the environuts NG will continue to be is short supply
as well. ;)

mike hunt


"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:fiqdnQd0OpAtZ7bZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> WHAT? I do not have a brother in law lives outside of Portland, Maine,
>> unless you considered Tennessee, Georgia and Florida 'outside.' Beside
>> they have NG heating systems LOL
>>
>>
>> mike hunter
>>
>
> Having lived with coal, electric, oil, and natural gas heat, I think I'll
> stick to natural gas where available!
>
>
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:_5WcnYMrfIU5trHZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> If we leave it up to the environuts NG will continue to be is short supply
> as well. ;)
>
> mike hunt
>

Amen to that! If we leave it up to the environuts, people would also be in
short supply!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Hey RAy, This story strikes no fear in me....It's just one case of a
guy who used a product the wrong way...OVERUSE...stupidity....and we
can't base our research on that, now, can we Ray...I never said I would
use Heet every week...llike a joker would. Once every few months.
You can eat too much good food and injure your body, too, Ray, so it
wasn't the Heet, it was the joker using it every week.

"slatt333" <slatt333@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144086323.980526.28810@t31g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hey RAy, This story strikes no fear in me....It's just one case of a
> guy who used a product the wrong way...OVERUSE...stupidity....and we
> can't base our research on that, now, can we Ray...I never said I would
> use Heet every week...llike a joker would. Once every few months.
> You can eat too much good food and injure your body, too, Ray, so it
> wasn't the Heet, it was the joker using it every week.
>

Yes, the problems we saw were with cars that had Heet added every week, we
also saw some problems with cars that had Heet added once a month. My guess
is that using Heet once every few months won't hurt the car but I can't say
for sure because I have never had the need for or used any fuel additives.

I am familiar with Toyota's recommendations regarding the use of fuel and
oil additives, which is to avoid their use. On the other side is the folks
who make fuel additives, who say that they cure all manner of problems,
improve performance, and improve fuel economy. You can believe the folks
who engineered and built the cars or you can believe the folks who are
trying to sell you fuel additives. IMO, the folks at Toyota are more
knowledgeable about Toyotas than the folks who make Heet so in the case of
differing recommendations, I'll go with Toyota's.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)