Eibach sucks... help I need AE92 springs!

I ordered the Eibach springs for my Corolla over a month ago... and they keep telling me they are backordered farther and farther...

So I called Eibach, and they have discontinued all AE92 springs :sosad:


Anyways, what other brands (that are still being made!) can I use? I was looking at Intrax, but a 1.6" drop is a little much.

Does TRD still have their AE92 springs?

TRD springs are made by Eibach, so I'd say no.

Where did you order them from? I see them on Tirerack and Cardomain, maybe those distributors have them in stock?

I called all the distributors that say they have it in stock, but they don't really; they say that as they can usually have them shipped overnight or whatever from the manufacturer. Since Eibach hasn't told any suppliers that they are discontinued, I guess they still think they can get them.

Go with APEX springs ! And dont be afraid of the 1.6 drop its nuthing really i was scared about bottoming out on everything to but as long as you dont have a body kit you should be fine !

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APEX, Tein or B+G for teh win!

I like apex, but where can I get them??

dunno.. rice shops should carry them.. that's how I got mine. :)

rice shop?

rice shop, tuner shop.. whatever dude.. same shit. :lol:

Hmm... none of those around here. I'll call Apex directly and see if I can get a supplier out of them!

I still like that 15 way adjustable suspension for the ae92 that I came across on the net. $1,800 replaces the stock macpherson strut system, all 4 units :D

There is a "JDM" coilover setup on ebay with a buy it now of something like $10... lol

http://www.185performance.com/zen/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_6&sort=20a&page=1

20-30mm drop is what this manufacturer advertises. Dobinsons. You have to buy the front and the rear separately 114 each.

I had TRD springs, they claimed a 1.1 inch drop. I think it was closer to 2 inches in the front and next to nothing in the back.

go with B+G springs. I have 1.6" drop and i have no problem with it (ooh and by the way i live in montreal where streets are made of potholes)

hmm on speed bumps my exaust rubs the ground near the back where it avoids the gas tank and it's stock sr5 height

thats y i avoid driving around parking lots, but if u want to drop ur car man u have to make some sacrifices...

hmm on speed bumps my exaust rubs the ground near the back where it avoids the gas tank and it's stock sr5 height

Either your exhaust is too low or you need struts BAD :eek:

I like apex, but where can I get them??


i got mine from www.flatoutperformance.com

they were out of stock but if you email them they should be able to get them like they did for me (keep in mind i just ordered mine not to long ago so they should still be able to help you out... ohh and i paid 240/260 for mine dunno exact but yea ;)

Awesome, thanks!!

oh.... I ordered some eibachs too :( they place I ordered them from said they're on back order untill the 18th...

Awesome, thanks!!


^ glad i can help ! what kinda struts you going with ? KYB's ? also you should plan on replacing the strut mounts as well, the aftermarket strut mounts for the rear didnt fit right so i didnt use them, i thought it be safe since the rears are solid, compared to the fronts which spin, plan on paying about 40 bucks for both of umm if you do ;)

I bought KYB GR2's. Where can I get new strut mounts for the car? I'd like to replace anything that I might need!

Yah, my Eibachs kept being backordered, so I called them directly and that's how I got the news. :(

i bought mine from napa just OEM replacments will do you fine ; ) also you will most likely need a camber kit as you allignment is going to be off, mine still is a little bit i personally bought eibachs camber kit last year and they work great ! but i need bigger ones for the front because of the apex drop i got my eibachs for about 60 bucks i believe and that comes with all 4... however i need to new fronts which you will too and i was qouted 16 bucks each for the fronts at napa... i think ive covered everything ?

Goodluck!

Camber kit? I'm new to suspension!

^ our cars arent adjustable for lowering, so you need a camber kit/camber bolts, that will put your car back into specs, its much cheaper to put them in yourself and bring it in for an allignment, if you want anymore info let me know

Well I just bought an Eibach camber kit. See my other post in the Corolla forum!

The stock springs with new Struts from AutoZone are stiff enough for a blend of performance and ride quality (still on the stiff side) but the car sits up high with these..

but they only cost less than $200.00 (I used the loaner spring compressor form AutoZone to R&R the springs on the new struts..)

Beats the hell out of riding on old totally worn out struts..

:cool:

Well I just bought an Eibach camber kit. See my other post in the Corolla forum!


i hope you got the right ones cause my camber is still off in the front ( not alot to do any damage but its off lol )

Still searching for springs. I tried Flat Out Performance, but they never followed up with me!

humm i didnt have any issues with them at all

I found a place that sells apex springs.

http://www.philsinc.com/kybstruts/apex.html

only $171 (plus shipping I assume) I'm going to order some when I get home tonight, I'll let you guys know how they are.

they are impossible to find because it's a european company, and it doesn't have any us distributors :-P

They are $190 here if anyone has bad luck with the other company eage8 posted!

http://www.flatoutperformance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=apx-170-6000&Category_Code=Tia9

They are $190 here if anyone has bad luck with the other company eage8 posted!

http://www.flatoutperformance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=apx-170-6000&Category_Code=Tia9

lol, wow, I deffinitly didn't realize that was in canadian dollars. I was like, holy crap, what a rip off :-).

Find B+G they're just as good and the same drop.

lol yea i was thinkin abotu ordering from them 2 i had a hard time finding my springs as well.. think i found mine at a place called All out racing an i believe i paid around 220 bucks shipped Goodluck !

I found a place that sells apex springs.

http://www.philsinc.com/kybstruts/apex.html

only $171 (plus shipping I assume) I'm going to order some when I get home tonight, I'll let you guys know how they are.

they are impossible to find because it's a european company, and it doesn't have any us distributors :-P

yeah... that site sucks :-P

I got an email today that read:
"Thanks for the order. Unfortunately the set set is not available at this time.

Your order has been deleted from our system.

-Mike Reusche, Phil's Inc.
877-750-7251"

*sigh* lets hope the 3rd time's the charm.

lol, so aparently canadian exchange rates aren't as generous as they make them out to be on the site :-P

but I don't care, my dumb springs are in the mail...lol

anyone know the spring rates of the apex springs. also are the control arms pointed upwards or downwards a little still. also how much roll does the car still have? the stock suspension of the ae92 is really very soft.

right now im looking at the apex springs. im asking this because if the control arms are pointed upwards it will just ruin the suspension geometry and cause the wheels to go + camber while hard cornering and roll. not to mention if the springs are to soft it will roll even more and make the geometry worse. this also will not help because the ae92's caster can't be adjusted.

i've wanted to try some springs to see how well they control the body.

you can get kyb's from advance discount ....the sr5 is diffent from gts but they have kyb's for sr5's aswell.

i want springs that have atleast a 2" drop but i would take a lil more if i could.

Rears on SR5 and GTS are the same strut, the fronts are different. GTS is replaceable cartridge and the SR5 is full strut.

looks like im going with gc coilovers 2.5 inch drop

the kyb's are okay but they still bottom out some. on one of my gt-s with springs when i corner hard it bottoms out. even on my stock gt-s i just got it bottoms out (had kyb's before i threw in some koni's) for perfromance driving i'd try tokico or koni's for sure. even koni's on the stock suspension gave it alot better grip due to the better valveing.

i'll be posting up pics of the new GT-s i just bought. it has no rust (from cali) the engine has piston slap so i'll be rebuilding that with crower street spec cams, since the piston needs to be replaced anyways high comp pistons from the small port will go in along with a TRD head gasket. im thinking about polishing the exhaust ports as of right now. im hoping to get the whole engine rebuilt/refresh for under $1,000

pistons 4 = $40 a pieace 10.3:1 = $160
rings = $80
bearing= $80
head machine work = $300
block mostlikely only needs to be rehoned which should not cost much
and all the rest are gaskets which should cost under $200 for the whole thing

i already have the cams sitting around.

the goals around 110-115whp

so after waiting 3 weeks for my springs to get here from canada, I received a beat up empty box in the mail with an apology letter from the post office saying that my box came open and my springs were lost...

hopefully I can get a full refund from the place even though they didn't insure it enough. (not really a big fan of that store...)

so there goes my 3rd attempt to order springs for my car :-P


I think I'm just going to try to get some ground controls too.

anyone know good spring rates to get? (you can request rates on the GCs) I'm a pretty skilled + very spirited driver, and might autocross this car occasionally for fun. I'd like it pretty firm.

I bought eibach springs last week for my 89 GTS. They were about $200US. I have KYB GR2's. I got them in complete strut form, not cartridge. I got both of them from autowarehouse.com. I was going to get the cartridge replacements until I got to reading the specs on the struts. The struts for the corollas are listed individually left front, left rear, right front, and right rear. Some of them dont have pictures but when you read the description it will say strut assembly and not strut cartridge. They had a listing for a GTS. The complete strut assembly was $60.00 US (each) for the front.

They paid for shipping and it took about 2-3 days.

So you're basically using SR5 suspension then. :eek:

http://www.importperformance.com/kyb/t.html

GTS = cartridge 365064 which cross-references with 88-89 Celica GTS and 90-95 MR2 which in turn crossreferences to KYB AGX adjustable 765015. :D

http://www.importperformance.com/agx/apps.html

why not have the whole strut asymbly ....if its from a quality company and is a quality product....you will get quality....better than stock.

I bought eibach springs last week for my 89 GTS. They were about $200US. I have KYB GR2's. I got them in complete strut form, not cartridge. I got both of them from autowarehouse.com. I was going to get the cartridge replacements until I got to reading the specs on the struts. The struts for the corollas are listed individually left front, left rear, right front, and right rear. Some of them dont have pictures but when you read the description it will say strut assembly and not strut cartridge. They had a listing for a GTS. The complete strut assembly was $60.00 US (each) for the front.

They paid for shipping and it took about 2-3 days.

where did you get the eibachs from? and have you received them yet?

Hey Ren,
I'm using my GTS suspension. When I ordered the struts I was assured they were for the GTS. So far they are one of only a few that offer a front strut assembly and not just the cartridge. Hey they offer a money back guarantee so if they didnt fit or something was wrong with them I get a full refund. So for now they are working fine, with a set of eibach pro springs on them. Time will tell. Even if they were to blow later on, for the price I cant bitch. They are super easy to change on our car.

I ordered them from autopartswarehouse.com. This is how you tell if its the strut assembly or the cartridge The front strut assembly is about $60US and the cartridge alone is about $49US. The eibach springs were $226US and I received all of it 2-3 days after I ordered it. Shipping was free for anything over $50US.

But you said they gave you full struts... GTS have cartridges so if they gave you full struts, they gave you the wrong struts, they gave you the SR5s.

What's the part numbers on them?? KYB would not suppy the rest of the full strut assembly unless it wasn't replaceable, hence the reason why they gave you SR5 struts.

But you said they gave you full struts... GTS have cartridges so if they gave you full struts, they gave you the wrong struts, they gave you the SR5s.

What's the part numbers on them?? KYB would not suppy the rest of the full strut assembly unless it wasn't replaceable, hence the reason why they gave you SR5 struts.
what are the differences between a GT-S damper and an SR5 damper?

i recomend doing the AGX conversion in the front (they are the shit ! ) tempted to get 2 more & hack open the rears & slip umm in.. i wouldnt waste your time with KYB GR-S if you are serious about getting any performance gains !!! they are soft as hell it pisses me off but i went the cheap route so my mistake

eage8, I believe the SR5s are softer. Also the fact that the GTS is replaceable cartridge gives you more choice really.

I'm with 89yotarollagts, I'm going with AGX adjustables on my 90 GTS OR Koni adjustables, depending how much money I have left over after my soon to be BIGGEST expense. :wowza:

do they have agx for sr5's i want the best preformance possible

anyone know good spring rates to get? (you can request rates on the GCs) I'm a pretty skilled + very spirited driver, and might autocross this car occasionally for fun. I'd like it pretty firm.

so... spring rates anyone? :-P

do they have agx for sr5's i want the best preformance possible

They don't even have AGX for the GTS :lol: but the ones from the Celica GTS and MR2 just happen to cross reference to the Corolla GTS ones. :)

Yah I have KYB GR2's on all four corners on my SR5... really soft!

BTW, where the hell did you get Eibachs? They are long discontinued!

Ren: i Recomend somethign else for the rear.. maby if you dont have all the doe ray me for the Koni's just get them for the rear & put AGX's in front (or if your lucky try fining Tokicos for the rear, those are a bit stiffer i beleive

And you all gotta think about those GR-2's they are OEM replacments & not meant for lowering on ! so basically you still have stock struts in your car lol

i dont think eibachs are disscontinued... if they are thats news to me

so what is there for an sr5 .....besides getting gts rear struts ....what about the front

i guess having a stiff rear and a soft front is okay if you wanna ff drift but i want stalbization!

You can get KYB GR2s and Tokicos, they do make them for the SR5 and there's not much of a difference from the GTS struts of the same kind, there's just more choice when it comes to the GTS.

but gr2s suck ...im going to get agx's for the rear...but its not compatable for the front....maybe i could bolt of the gts front then add agx to that

just use the SR5 springs and add wedges... They will be more than stiff enough for street use...NASCAR uses wedges..

IMHO
:)

i dont think eibachs are disscontinued... if they are thats news to me

They are. TRD springs for these cars (probably all of em) are Eibachs, and both have been unavailable for a while now. Many suppliers show them, but if you order them, they come back and say they can't get them. I know, as 2 months ago I looked all over this earth trying to get a set lol

You can still get eibachs for your car. You can go to tirerack.com or autopartswarehouse.com. They both had them in stock and for sale as of last week. Autopartswarehouse is a little cheaper than tirerack, they also offer free shipping.

but gr2s suck ...im going to get agx's for the rear...but its not compatable for the front....maybe i could bolt of the gts front then add agx to that


we dunno if you can do that yet man !! id imagine you could as you can hack up the rears to put koni's in... very few have even attempted to put AGX's in the front i think i may be the only one on this forum currently running AGX's on a corolla GT-S..


retiredat44 where do you get wedges ? i was under the impression they were for coilovers (but then again why would you need them for coil overs) every car has a diff size spring (please give some details as im not familiar with them at all ; )

we dunno if you can do that yet man !! id imagine you could as you can hack up the rears to put koni's in... very few have even attempted to put AGX's in the front i think i may be the only one on this forum currently running AGX's on a corolla GT-S..


retiredat44 where do you get wedges ? i was under the impression they were for coilovers (but then again why would you need them for coil overs) every car has a diff size spring (please give some details as im not familiar with them at all ; )

i have an sr5 and suspension is becomeing a bitch!

^^ how so... we cant help you if you dont ellaborate on what your issues are ;)

but gr2s suck ...im going to get agx's for the rear...but its not compatable for the front....maybe i could bolt of the gts front then add agx to that

They don't make AGX for the rear.. actually they don't even make AGX for the GTS, it just so happens the MR2 uses the same cartridge on the fronts, therefore you can interchange them with the GTS cartridges.

You can use the GTS front suspension and add the AGX to that.

it might work Ren... if you can slip Koni's in your front's & hack up the rears to put koni's in the rear why not the AGX's think the only issue you might run into is sealing them up in the rears as the fronts have threaded nuts on the top !

well how about this ....who makes good struts for the sr-5 at this point price doesnt matter....i need struts that can handle a 2.5" drop and still preform

your best bet would be to get GT-S housings for the front & get KYB AGX Cartriges & maby Get Tokico's for the rear if you can find them (thats the cheap route)... or get GT-S housings & get Koni's These struts are made to be lowered on an will perform the best !

okay so i need to find some and bolt em up ...im going with koni

good choice.. heavy on the pockets, but good. :)

why put on some overly stiff agx when you can have koni's that have a much better valving than the agx. shocks makes a huge difference in handleing. bad shocks don't complement good springs. all springs do is hold the body of the car up.

It's all about the budget my friend, if you have the money go for the big bucks and get the Koni adjustable, if you don't have a big budget to spend then you with the AGX/GR2 combo or even Tokico which is more midway.

yes they are expensive but like everyone said when i got my struts i will wish i had gone with koni's & that is so true !! i will upgrade however i dunno if the AGX's will go id like to try Koni's in the rear with the AGX's in front

why put on some overly stiff agx when you can have koni's that have a much better valving than the agx. shocks makes a huge difference in handleing. bad shocks don't complement good springs. all springs do is hold the body of the car up.



WHy because everybody has a diff driving style & budget that goes with that driving stlye


Those that want all out autocross cars have to sacrifice money & ride quality so to some the overly stiff struts are right up there alley.. and in my opinion the AGX struts kick ass for the price !

dude dont worry ...i got some eibach springs for my corolla and they suck ...ide see it as a blessing that u didnt get em lol

ground control ftw

Thats prolly the only way your gunna get a 2.5inch drop on our corollas without hacken springs

eibach makes the springs in ground controls :P

yeah, but they're different rate from their regular springs.

they are whatever rate you want :-P

i just orderd some eibachs from tire rack. hopefully it feels okay. 89yotarollagts since we both live in MN i'd like to meet up with you one of these days. i notice seeing you at the MAC autocross. i drive the red/black carbon MR2

ohh Cool ! for sure man ! so you got a ae92 as well ? PM me !

i orderd my eibachs from tire rack on monday it got here on thursday.