TRDCelica 08-01-2001, 09:13 PM mod my car with, performance wise. Anyone?
I don't wanna lower it yet, cuz I go to U of Waterloo and its in the snow belt - I don't want to be the neighbourhood Mr. Plow. I am drooling over the TRD Sportivo kit though, its the same suspension they used in the Pro Celebrity races in Cali.
I was thinking the normal intake/exhaust for now, but parts for my car are so damn expensive!
I don't really suggest getting intake/exhaust since those will make you lose low-end torque. It's espeically important in the Celica with a high-rev engine.
If you don't want to lower your car, get the Sportivo kit and sell the springs. I'm sure the shocks and swaybars will do heck of a job to the car's handling.
Oh, since more suspension parts are available, get all strut bars, tie bars, etc! I think those will really stiffen the car! :grin:
I'm telling you to get those because I fell in love with my new suspension, I just love how the car handles so well right now.
SW20 MR2 08-02-2001, 08:26 AM The intake and exhaust are still a good idea. The torque loss on the bottom end won't be *that* bad, if anything at all.
DaksGT 08-02-2001, 11:58 AM If u get a cai u won't loose low end.
Gruven 08-02-2001, 12:27 PM Incorrect, you *will* lose low-end. Trust me, I feel it with my CAI. But all in all, so what if you lose low-end? When was the last time you were racing between 2000-4000 RPMs anyway? If you are, no wonder you're losing.
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Jzs147-RR 08-02-2001, 01:02 PM I had a CAI on my TEG and when i went to the dyno with the stock box i had 210hp at 4000rpm and with the cai i had 214. at 2000rpm i had 101 with box and 97 with cai. that is a little loss for a gained top end.And a lesson i learnt donot use NO2 before 4000rpm in first gear...BOOOOOOM
TRDCelica 08-02-2001, 02:31 PM On 2001-08-02 12:27, Gruven wrote:
Incorrect, you *will* lose low-end. Trust me, I feel it with my CAI. But all in all, so what if you lose low-end? When was the last time you were racing between 2000-4000 RPMs anyway? If you are, no wonder you're losing.
Yeah I realize I'll lose some low end, but it doesn't really matter to me.
Gruven, on a side note, I'd like to know more about the HID conversion you have. How much did it cost you?
Gruven 08-02-2001, 02:35 PM The HID kit runs for approx. $500US. I got it from Visual Dynamics. Check out http://www.visualdynamics.ca for more details. Get a hold of Trevor, he's who hooked me up, and he'll treat you well.
What??? Gruven you have a HID conversion??? :eek:
Tell us more about it!
Gruven 08-02-2001, 07:00 PM Yup tis true..
It's a Phillips HID Conversion kit supplied by Visual Dynamics. Overall the install of the kit was a bit time consuming considering I was the first one they tested the H7 kit on. It took a bit of 'custom' fabricating to make sure that the bulb sat in the housing properly.
But after the install, it looks great! Beam pattern is similar to stock, however MUCH brighter as expected.
Check out the following pics for the before and after shots:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/arnelt/Celica_install_before.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/arnelt/Celica_install_after.jpg
Any more questions, lemme know.
Ratko 08-02-2001, 07:05 PM damn, thats what im talking about !
definitely on my todo list... saw it somewhere in markham (phillips aswell) for i think 800-900 CAN.
how much more luminescent are they? it may be a dumb question but are they comparable to driving with your high beams on? do they light up just as much as your original high beams ?
thanks.
speedemn 08-03-2001, 02:02 AM You go to U of Waterloo??? So do I! Are you in school this term???
I had no idea we had someone else in Waterloo! My home is in Toronto and I will be moving back right after my exams... gimme a shout.
On 2001-08-01 21:13, TRDCelica wrote:
mod my car with, performance wise. Anyone?
I don't wanna lower it yet, cuz I go to U of Waterloo and its in the snow belt - I don't want to be the neighbourhood Mr. Plow. I am drooling over the TRD Sportivo kit though, its the same suspension they used in the Pro Celebrity races in Cali.
I was thinking the normal intake/exhaust for now, but parts for my car are so damn expensive!
TRDCelica 08-03-2001, 10:04 AM On 2001-08-03 02:02, speedemn wrote:
You go to U of Waterloo??? So do I! Are you in school this term???
I had no idea we had someone else in Waterloo! My home is in Toronto and I will be moving back right after my exams... gimme a shout.
Yeah, I am a CS major @ UW. I'm on work term rite now actually, and I'll be going back for my 3B term in Sept... =(
What program are you in?
Gruven 08-03-2001, 12:01 PM You can't so much as compare them to driving with your highbeams because the beam pattern would be different and they cover a different area than the lowbeams would. But as far as brightness goes, it's MUCH brighter than highbeams. Highbeams look bright because they're basically aimed at your face when you look at them. Plus, the light produced is a much cleaner white than the conventional light. The clean white is what those "imitation" HID Xenon bulbs try to produce. The problem with those is that in order for the light to be as white, a bluish film has to be placed onto the bulb's surface to filter out the blue. Now, by putting *anything* on top of the bulb's surface, no matter how translucent it is, you're blocking light from coming through. That's why those Xenon lights are dimmer than your conventional lights. Just run a comparison between the standard lights and say, PIAA's. You'll see that the light area produced by PIAA's are, although cleaner and whiter, is much smaller than the conventional lights.
Just some food for thought..
On 2001-08-02 19:05, Ratko wrote:
damn, thats what im talking about !
definitely on my todo list... saw it somewhere in markham (phillips aswell) for i think 800-900 CAN.
how much more luminescent are they? it may be a dumb question but are they comparable to driving with your high beams on? do they light up just as much as your original high beams ?
thanks.
speedemn 08-03-2001, 12:26 PM I used to be a CS major but now I think I'm gonna be OR with CS minor or Mathematical Sciences... I'm in school right now. Exams are done on the 10th and I'm done on the 9th. Moving back to TO shortly.
Where do you work? I start work on the 20th back at BCE Place.
Yeah, I am a CS major @ UW. I'm on work term rite now actually, and I'll be going back for my 3B term in Sept... =(
What program are you in?
TRDCelica 08-03-2001, 03:19 PM On 2001-08-03 12:26, speedemn wrote:
I used to be a CS major but now I think I'm gonna be OR with CS minor or Mathematical Sciences... I'm in school right now. Exams are done on the 10th and I'm done on the 9th. Moving back to TO shortly.
Where do you work? I start work on the 20th back at BCE Place.
I'm working at a wireless software company called Redknee. You've probably never heard of it since our customers are all outside of north america. Good luck on exams =)
speedemn 08-03-2001, 03:33 PM Were they on the co-op system? If so, then yes I've heard of them. Wanna do me a favour and refer me to work there for the co-op term beginning in January 2002 - April 2002? :smile:
I'm working at a wireless software company called Redknee. You've probably never heard of it since our customers are all outside of north america. Good luck on exams =)
DaksGT 08-03-2001, 06:14 PM On 2001-08-03 12:01, Gruven wrote:
You can't so much as compare them to driving with your highbeams because the beam pattern would be different and they cover a different area than the lowbeams would. But as far as brightness goes, it's MUCH brighter than highbeams. Highbeams look bright because they're basically aimed at your face when you look at them. Plus, the light produced is a much cleaner white than the conventional light. The clean white is what those "imitation" HID Xenon bulbs try to produce. The problem with those is that in order for the light to be as white, a bluish film has to be placed onto the bulb's surface to filter out the blue. Now, by putting *anything* on top of the bulb's surface, no matter how translucent it is, you're blocking light from coming through. That's why those Xenon lights are dimmer than your conventional lights. Just run a comparison between the standard lights and say, PIAA's. You'll see that the light area produced by PIAA's are, although cleaner and whiter, is much smaller than the conventional lights.
Just some food for thought..
On 2001-08-02 19:05, Ratko wrote:
damn, thats what im talking about !
definitely on my todo list... saw it somewhere in markham (phillips aswell) for i think 800-900 CAN.
how much more luminescent are they? it may be a dumb question but are they comparable to driving with your high beams on? do they light up just as much as your original high beams ?
thanks.
Oh arnel if u only knew what u were talking about. Guy tims 25$ eurolites look better.
But no for real it looks sick I've seen it many times.
SpectraBlueCam 08-14-2001, 08:47 PM Yeah, I can vouch for Arnel's HIDs. They look SCHWEET! I called Trevor but he's out of kits till September. I can't wait to get my hands on one of those kits! Hey Ratko, if we get it together, maybe we get a discount?? They had a group buy for only $400USD!!!! Missed it!! :mad: :mad: The current price is $770CDN or $500 greenbacks.
Anthony, I say do the suspension. I think 180 horses is enough to tie you over for now. IMHO, the suspension needs more attention - not that it's bad to start with. The Celica came off the factory floor so good that the folks at Sport Compact Car didn't quite know what to do with their project Celica. If you're concerned about snow, go with coilovers - true coilovers, please. Just raise it back to stock height in the winter.
Also, with all cars, the stereo is the WEAKEST LINK, GOODBYE! I don't know whether that's the case Celicas.
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Jzs147-RR 08-15-2001, 11:55 AM HID yummy i might want those too man i just want everything god darnit i must be a Toytaholic.. Detox time... :lol: :lol:
TRDCelica 08-17-2001, 01:04 PM On 2001-08-14 20:47, Spectra Blue Camry wrote:
Anthony, I say do the suspension. I think 180 horses is enough to tie you over for now. IMHO, the suspension needs more attention - not that it's bad to start with. The Celica came off the factory floor so good that the folks at Sport Compact Car didn't quite know what to do with their project Celica. If you're concerned about snow, go with coilovers - true coilovers, please. Just raise it back to stock height in the winter.
Also, with all cars, the stereo is the WEAKEST LINK, GOODBYE! I don't know whether that's the case Celicas.
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1995 Camry 5S-FE
All show!
No go!
Mofo!
I'm happy with the stock system so far... but after hearing Dickson's 10" JL Sub.... i dunno about that anymore. A coilover system would be nice, but the price is just too prohibitive for a poor student like me, just like every other part out there for my car... the aftermarket sux!
ST162 09-11-2001, 10:26 PM I have an '87 Celica GT-S (3S-GE) and i want to make it faster, but i don't want to spend too much money....maybe $600 max, for now. What could i get for this amount of money that would produce the most hp?
SpectraBlueCam 09-11-2001, 11:30 PM Wow! A 87 Celi? :eek:
I don't think there are many go-fast parts for it. I say save it for any maintenance costs which will creep up on you. The AE86 guys will agree, I'm sure.
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