Apexi SAFC-II... Worth it..??

Sup guys..

My Camry is a 1998 V6... I've heard that the Apexi SAFC-II does great things for Turbo and/or S/C'ed cars, but how about N/A cars..??

Can I expect good gains from a device like that..??

Thanks..

Dont know but i have an SAFC for sale for 75 bux lol

no the cars are already tuned enough from factory, unless you have other mods like intake and full exhaust there be about nothing.

no the cars are already tuned enough from factory, unless you have other mods like intake and full exhaust there be about nothing.

I have an Injen SRI, a Magnaflow Muffler and I removed my stock cat and on it's place I put a stock diameter exhaust pipe (2.25") ...

SAFC's are trash. Poor tuning resolution for all of them, the early ones are basically a sieres of triggered POTS. You can't begin to do a descent tune on larger injectors with one. They cost around $250usd.
& for $305usd I'll sell you a piggyback that'll not only have signifigantly more tuning resolution & actually be able to do real things. (http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp)

And throw in 2x 550cc RX-7 sencondary injectors...

^^ you say that because you trying to get rid of your stuff lol just playing but what is good?:)

safc is tuning @ WOT only. What about cruising, going to run rich or too lean?

you might, miiight see results if you get better flowing y pipe, but i didnt notice much on my 3vz-fe, and I had ported heads + intake + y pipe back.

^^ you say that because you trying to get rid of your stuff lol just playing but what is good?:)
I say that because it's the god's honest trueth, and anyone worth their keyboard in salt will have the same opinion. AFC's are *the* lowest tier of tuning known to man, they are not effective in how people generally try to use them & are in general a waste of $200+.

You will never find a more unbiased opinion than mine...

Go ahead and buy camryamnestys...haha. I was going to buy it from him but got one from my family for my 19th bday. I have yet to install mine yet, but it's fairly simple. I wanted one because I plan on nitrous though...so I'm not sure about a N/A engine, but I've heard you can get good gains with professional tuning. That's my two cents.

I say that because it's the god's honest trueth, and anyone worth their keyboard in salt will have the same opinion. AFC's are *the* lowest tier of tuning known to man, they are not effective in how people generally try to use them & are in general a waste of $200+.

You will never find a more unbiased opinion than mine...


i went with his opinion, and well looking in to the rest the only thing that could be better is the smt7. but thats just over kill.

just curious how much does those go for the smt7 or 6?

Ask johnny. (Sea2SkyTuning on any yota forum + AIM) He generally shoots the lowest Perfect Power prices. He's a canadian dealer. (The last time I checked one with the tester they were up to a hair up over $400usd).
I would bust your but if you want one... From talking with him, he's likely going to go with something else in the future & short of me. There is about noone that's wanted to sell a used one in the last 2 years.
Look, it goes like this for relatively avalible North American piggybacks:
Tier 1 (Bleeding edge): SMT7 > E-manage Ultimate
Tier 2 (Last generation) SMT6 >/= E-manage Gold > Unichip (NOT user programmable) > FTC-1
Tier 3 Eldest full feature piggybacks, SAFC II & SAFC I
Last tier. You can use pots to both raise & lower the VS voltage. You can make it as complicated a setup as you want to also. The ceveate is to expect to reset the fuel trims on a weekly, to bi-weekly basis & no hard driving until fuel trims can set themselves under normal driving.