Spy Shots: 2008 Matrix?

davinp
10-13-2006, 10:16 AM
Are these spy shots of 2008 Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe?
http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/spy-photos-2008-toyota-matrix-2008-pontiac-vibe-we-report-you-decide-207160.php

HL2k
10-13-2006, 10:48 AM
"who the hell knows, we cant see shit!"

HAHAHAHAHAH thats funny and so true

looks like an aztek hit a matrix...

BLUEMEANIE
10-13-2006, 10:56 AM
looks more like the Vibe to me ... tho there is a lot of camo on it.

RAV4EVR
10-13-2006, 11:04 AM
:disappoin

nmehes
10-13-2006, 11:15 AM
looks more like the Vibe to me ... tho there is a lot of camo on it.

You know it isn't the Toyota.....not enough cardboard camo.:lol:

TaWcomA26
10-13-2006, 03:51 PM
You know it isn't the Toyota.....not enough cardboard camo.:lol:

In Japan the Vibe really is a Toyota, but its called a Voltz there.

Camread
10-13-2006, 04:18 PM
i think its a matrix camo'd to look like a vibe. remember the disguised camry with the honda logo? anyways, gm can't afford that much duct tape.

RAV4EVR
10-13-2006, 05:03 PM
gm can't afford that much duct tape.

^^ :lol:

Avalonman
10-13-2006, 09:38 PM
http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee94f56/cmd.233/enclosure..ee94f57
Thats the Vibe. Look at the grille!!!!!





mercedesman1 - Oct 13, 2006 10:36 am (#10 (http://blogs.edmunds.com/?14@@.ee94f5d/9) Total: 10)
Well I agree its defenitly not the A-class, but i do in fact believe that its the Pontiac Vibe or they just made it look like it with the front grill.

toyotaQC
10-14-2006, 06:02 AM
I think that it's the Vibe because of the roof racks. The current Matrix doesn't have them but the Vibe does. Plus the weird looking grooves in the hood scream pontiac to me.

Camread
10-14-2006, 09:34 AM
yeah and those 2 occupants are white :rolleyes: . thats not a fncking vibe! that pontiac grille and roof racks are fakes!

Tideland Prius
10-14-2006, 05:07 PM
Just because the camo grille has a Pontiac resemblance, it's passed off as a Vibe??

Either way, it's quite a treat to see TWO camo'd models. The sloped rear window makes it more of a hatchback as promised but the tailgate really looks unfinished (and hopefully isn't the final shape).

SolaraTRD
10-14-2006, 05:19 PM
http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee94f59/cmd.233/enclosure..ee94f5a
Can you say STAR SHIP TROOPERS

ECHOKnight2000
10-14-2006, 07:57 PM
The first picture of the front looks like the current Vibe...sort of....you don't think someone took spy pictures of the current one when it was going to first come out and claim its the second gen? Oh well!

trxr
10-15-2006, 05:36 AM
Notice how only one of them has roof racks?

Tideland Prius
10-16-2006, 08:30 PM
and the other has alloys?

ever12
08-17-2007, 01:37 AM
New spy pics of the pontiac vibe are out (and pics of the dual vvti motor inside). It gives some insight to what the new Matrix will look like:
http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=29557

It looks similar to spy pics found of the Matrix:

http://i10.tinypic.com/4lyr4pe.jpg[/URL]
http://i10.tinypic.com/67iwv0w.jpg[URL="http://i10.tinypic.com/67iwv0w.jpg"] (http://i10.tinypic.com/4lyr4pe.jpg)

CarGuyLee
08-17-2007, 09:45 AM
That is a vibe, the grill gives it away. Does this mean that new Matrix will be out soon? That the Vibe and the Mazda3 are my top small cars!

Camread
08-17-2007, 01:19 PM
how can you see the grille thru that....

geoff5093
08-17-2007, 04:22 PM
how can you see the grille thru that....
One of the other pictures showed part of the grille, and you can see the Pontiac logo.

Camread
08-17-2007, 05:56 PM
oh ok, i was looking at the top 2 pics. that red one looks kinda conserative from the sides

secrecyguy
08-17-2007, 06:52 PM
Either way, it's the new Metrix / Vibe!

Considering they cover up the back side windows, I have a bad feeling they decided to do away with the back side windows like they did with the new Scion xA (? I always get the xA & xB mixed up.)

Camread
08-17-2007, 07:01 PM
so we're not getting the auris or blade? :disappoin

ever12
08-18-2007, 02:58 AM
so we're not getting the auris or blade? :disappoin

You know, I've had countless Toyotas over the years. Everything from an AE86 to an 8th gen Celica, and multiple Camrys, including the 01 i have now. Sometimes I feel like Toyota turned it's back on the performance enthusiasts who have made Toyota such a big part of their culture. Everytime I heard a rumor about an upcoming Toyota sports car, my heart filled with hope, but as time went by each rumor seemed more and more unlikely. Instead, Toyota feeds us rebadged econoboxes and tries to pass them off as being hip under Scion to the American consumer (no offense to Scion owners). I've heard every rumor about the upcoming Toyota lineup from from an AWD V6 Corolla hatch variant to a lightweight RWD AE86 sucessor. I'm waiting until SEMA these year to see what Toyota has in store. If Toyota were to come out with a car for next years line up that would be worth paying attention to, I would forgive Toyota for its shortcomings these past years and happily become a Toyota fan again. If Toyota decides to ignore what the public has been asking for another year, I put my down payment on a 2008 VW Rabbit. (170hp compact for $15k? If only Toyota was so generous..)

Camread
08-18-2007, 07:53 AM
do you still have the celica? why get a rabbit when the celi is a better handler

ever12
08-18-2007, 07:34 PM
I don't have the Celica anymore. I drive a 2001 Camry now. I would look into getting another Celica, but it is too hard to find one with the mileage I'm looking for. Also, it would be nice to have some torque and low end power for daily driving.

ECHOKnight2000
08-18-2007, 08:04 PM
I don't have the Celica anymore. I drive a 2001 Camry now. I would look into getting another Celica, but it is too hard to find one with the mileage I'm looking for. Also, it would be nice to have some torque and low end power for daily driving.


Rabbits are nice for the money but also be prepared for the endless times at the shop and electrical headahes. But each to his/her own! Good luck!

TravisAe86
08-18-2007, 08:28 PM
Y The Hell Are They Being Made Together!!!!!!!!!!!!!

originalfake
08-19-2007, 02:19 AM
beats me..but this isn't the first time gm and toyota made counterparts. like the geo prizm and the toyota corolla back in the day. :confused:

originalfake
08-19-2007, 02:30 AM
You know, I've had countless Toyotas over the years. Everything from an AE86 to an 8th gen Celica, and multiple Camrys, including the 01 i have now. Sometimes I feel like Toyota turned it's back on the performance enthusiasts who have made Toyota such a big part of their culture. Everytime I heard a rumor about an upcoming Toyota sports car, my heart filled with hope, but as time went by each rumor seemed more and more unlikely. Instead, Toyota feeds us rebadged econoboxes and tries to pass them off as being hip under Scion to the American consumer (no offense to Scion owners). I've heard every rumor about the upcoming Toyota lineup from from an AWD V6 Corolla hatch variant to a lightweight RWD AE86 sucessor. I'm waiting until SEMA these year to see what Toyota has in store. If Toyota were to come out with a car for next years line up that would be worth paying attention to, I would forgive Toyota for its shortcomings these past years and happily become a Toyota fan again. If Toyota decides to ignore what the public has been asking for another year, I put my down payment on a 2008 VW Rabbit. (170hp compact for $15k? If only Toyota was so generous..)

but who are u to say what the public is asking for? toyota isnt nowadays known for sport cars. in fact, by some people the cars they produce today are boring except a few in the lexus line-up. the reason toyota is successful is their camry, corolla etc -comfort, reliability, economy and saving money. this is what the public wants thats y those cars sell now. u can continue crying about toyota making these rumored cars but toyota wouldnt care much if they are making that much money. besides, america gets all the wack shit is becuz of the damn spoiled kids go straight to the benz dealership and buy the most expensive coupe there is. toyota lost its sports car heritage in america but only carried on by those that own supras and mr2's. sorry to say this but the celica wasnt that great of a car to me..looks like a girl's car but again everyones is allowed to have his/her opinion.

middleoroad
08-19-2007, 01:07 PM
judging from the tr versions of the yaris and auris in europe and canada toyota may give us something racier in the next couple years.the mr2s and the older celicas are sweet but id rather have a sleeper.

EchoHoLiK
08-21-2007, 12:46 AM
If Toyota decides to ignore what the public has been asking for another year, I put my down payment on a 2008 VW Rabbit. (170hp compact for $15k? If only Toyota was so generous..)
I understand what you meant and I agree with most of what you said, but you're hardly making your point by getting a non-performance-orientated Rabbit :lol: At least be a man and get a Golf GTi :D And if that Rabbit ends up being a bitch then you might have to come crawling back crying and stuff.

ever12
08-23-2007, 05:07 AM
I understand what you meant and I agree with most of what you said, but you're hardly making your point by getting a non-performance-orientated Rabbit :lol: At least be a man and get a Golf GTi :D And if that Rabbit ends up being a bitch then you might have to come crawling back crying and stuff.

Yeah, your right, that didn't really make sense to people reading it. What I was thinking was to get a Rabbit for a daily driver and opt for another AE86 and possibly a 4ag swap as a project. I would prefer a GTI but $7k more for 30hp isn't worth it to me when it's all going to driving in traffic anyway. But yeah, that did come out kind of retarded.

CarGuyLee
08-23-2007, 01:21 PM
So does anyone know when they new Vibe/Matrix will be out?

toyotaQC
08-23-2007, 06:19 PM
We start to build it in Dec 07 on sale early 08

Boxedin
08-23-2007, 06:29 PM
You know, I've had countless Toyotas over the years. Everything from an AE86 to an 8th gen Celica, and multiple Camrys, including the 01 i have now. Sometimes I feel like Toyota turned it's back on the performance enthusiasts who have made Toyota such a big part of their culture. Everytime I heard a rumor about an upcoming Toyota sports car, my heart filled with hope, but as time went by each rumor seemed more and more unlikely. Instead, Toyota feeds us rebadged econoboxes and tries to pass them off as being hip under Scion to the American consumer (no offense to Scion owners). I've heard every rumor about the upcoming Toyota lineup from from an AWD V6 Corolla hatch variant to a lightweight RWD AE86 sucessor. I'm waiting until SEMA these year to see what Toyota has in store. If Toyota were to come out with a car for next years line up that would be worth paying attention to, I would forgive Toyota for its shortcomings these past years and happily become a Toyota fan again. If Toyota decides to ignore what the public has been asking for another year, I put my down payment on a 2008 VW Rabbit. (170hp compact for $15k? If only Toyota was so generous..)

not to be a crap head but, 150 hp... ;)

ever12
08-23-2007, 06:34 PM
not to be a crap head but, 150 hp... ;)

The 06-07 2.5 models get 150hp. 08+ 2.5 Rabbit and Jetta get 170hp. With the Rabbit's roughly 200lbs weight advantage over the Jetta, it makes the Rabbit a pretty decent athlete for its class ;)

Boxedin
08-24-2007, 05:42 PM
The 06-07 2.5 models get 150hp. 08+ 2.5 Rabbit and Jetta get 170hp. With the Rabbit's roughly 200lbs weight advantage over the Jetta, it makes the Rabbit a pretty decent athlete for its class ;)


Thanks for the info :)

Camread
08-24-2007, 06:21 PM
We start to build it in Dec 07 on sale early 08

what's the pricing on these? and is it going to be a "fun" car to drive or just another yawner?

supra saiyan
08-24-2007, 09:52 PM
Pretty sure another boring car from Toyota.

ever12
08-25-2007, 01:27 AM
You know, I'm usually not one for Scions but the Scion Fuse concept is pretty sweet. Google it and you'll see what I mean. Supposedly it'll be the first decently performing Scion. Maybe it'll make it to production as the Scion xR I've been hearing so much about. The reason I have confidence a similar model will make it into production is because I saw the Scion t2b concept firsthand and the new 08 xB turned out to look very similar to it. Scion debuted the Fuse concept at the New York international auto show on the same display that had used to show the t2b concept the previous year.