92 Celica 2.2L swap.

Createdtoburn
12-31-2006, 10:20 PM
Basically... I have a 92 Celica ST with the 1.6L 4AFE engine in it w/5speed.

Im thinkin about getting a 2.2L w/5speed to put in there instead. Im sorry if this has been asked before, but just wondering if its possible and how hard it would be? Just wondering if anyones tryed it?

thanks for any info, its appreciated.

Blane
01-01-2007, 08:39 PM
It's not that hard to swap in the 2.2L Engine mounts won't match up so you'll need to fabricate new mounts and then you have to figure out the wiring which is the other half of the work. The 2.2L engine and transmission need to be swapped in.

The 2.2L is an economical engine and is a disappointment as far as hp gains go. My 2.2L convertable has had major problems with the engine and I personally don't have much faith in the 2.2L.

My 1992 st 1.6L white celica has 236,000miles and have had no engine issues at all.
My 1993 st had the $600.00 5afe engine swap done to it and it runs like a champ.

What are you trying to gain?

Demonicpresence
01-02-2007, 08:58 AM
surprised to hear you had engine probs with the 2.2 i drive the s*** out of mine all the time at 220k miles and it never fails me original eng and tranny no slip its really hard for me to believe of course that may be cuz i have had too many ford and chevy cars i kill those trannys in a week lol.

Blane
01-02-2007, 12:09 PM
My 2.2L is a leaky son o' beotch. the oil pump went out once. The something seal broke and another and another. I think it's good now. But I don't have trust.

Where are you getting the 2.2L from?
Does that one have 220k miles on it?
What are you trying to gain from this swap?

Dr Tweak
01-02-2007, 10:20 PM
For performance, the 4AGE series is going to give you more results for a similar, if not cheaper price.

I can take care of the wiring on any swap you want to do.

-Doc

Createdtoburn
01-04-2007, 05:03 PM
Well basically the engine I have now runs really good, 1.6L 4AFE engine, and theres no problems, no leaks, and I keep good service on it. Even with a suposid 250,000 miles.

Im just looking for some more power and I figured id have a better route going with the 2.2L engine? I really want to turbo it. I was lookin at my 1.6L and there doesnt look like much room to put a turbo there, while the 2.2L has hella room for a turbo.

Just tryin to make it fast basically. What do you guys think would be the best bet?

alltracman78
01-04-2007, 08:55 PM
BEST bet is a 3SGTE swap.
It has more potential than any other swap [within reason].
Basically the same thing as swapping in a 5SFE.
It will cost more though....

But a 4AGE will work nice too.
More power than the 5SFE.

Createdtoburn
01-06-2007, 01:11 AM
Isnt the 3SGTE the turbo 2.0L?

Dr Tweak
01-06-2007, 06:22 AM
Yes it is.

-Doc

Createdtoburn
01-06-2007, 09:28 AM
Isnt it the one with the all wheel drive tranny though? Or... does the regular 5 speed tranny bolt up to it?

Unco
01-06-2007, 09:47 AM
in the celicas, yes, all wheel drive, but not in the MR2's, and it should bolt up AFAIK.

personally, i'd sell the car and buy one with a factory installed 2.2 in it. but that's just me.

Createdtoburn
01-10-2007, 02:24 PM
Thats right huh because the MR2 has the engine mounted in the back so its just rear wheel drive. So the 3SGTE engine from a MR2 will fit in my celica and mount up to the front wheels?

TubRog5
01-10-2007, 04:05 PM
The best thing for you to do is go with a 4agze swap from the 1st generation MR2's. You can swap out the supercharger in place of a turbo later on if you're not satisfied with the supercharger.

h8eternal
02-17-2007, 09:35 PM
if you want a 2.2 in your celica i would say its not really worth it but can be done. you would need custom mounts. but the wiring would be easy just grab a wire harness from a celica with a 2.2 and your good.

haaving already the 4afe you could also go with
4age ore 4agze or one of the 4age 20valve engines.
wiring would be your biggest problems on those engines but ANY good mechanic or tuner shop can work that out with enough info. no need to go to an overpriced website or anything like that.

ask around at your local shops or trusted mechanics.

canadiancelica
02-18-2007, 07:19 AM
LOL!! The 2.2L is one of the most reliable engines for the celica, you just don't trust it because you don't keep it maintained.

When you swapped it you should have replaced all the seal that were leaky. lol

It's not worth swapping a 2.2L into an ST, plain and simple. 3sgte is the way to go. or build the 1.6, which can be done

Createdtoburn
02-18-2007, 09:38 AM
Yeah, Id prefer just to build up my 1.6L because my engine runs real strong and theres nothing wrong with it. Im actually about to go into the process of replacing my clutch today. Where can I get some cams for this engine? Or if you know any good performance things I can do to it?

h8eternal
02-18-2007, 09:45 AM
you could put a 4age head on it and make it a dohc
ive seen people put turbos on their 1.6 low boost though
get your self some nice plugs and plug wires and a new cap
a little goes a long way
el cheapo ebay intakes as well

canadiancelica
02-18-2007, 09:52 AM
4afe is SOHC? Didn't know that.

So does the 4age head bolt right on? I expect some modifications of something, oil nozzles perhaps, 4age timing belt, what else?

h8eternal
02-18-2007, 09:55 AM
the 4afe has two cams but one is like an idler cam
im not sure what you would need to slap on that g head on their but ive seen it done before

you might as well buy a 4age and stick it in their
maybe easier and or cheaper

canadiancelica
02-18-2007, 10:03 AM
oh you mean it's only got 1 external cam gear, like the 5sfe. the second cam run off an internal gear. Yeah ok, Im ok with that. I wasn't ok with it being SOHC. LOL

Createdtoburn
02-20-2007, 12:30 AM
Yeah my Engine is supposidly dual overhead cam, although theres only one external gear. If you open the oil cap you can look inside and see the other cam. Not sure exactly the purpose, but eh its cool. So... the 4AGE head... what car/engine exactly is that? I want to turbo it but dont want to buy a damn turbo kit, too expensive. Figure I can get the parts seperately over time and it should be cheaper. Not sure what turbo manifold I can get though?

h8eternal
02-20-2007, 10:47 AM
4age comes from a couple earliy toyota corrollas and early MR2s