Fed's Announce Rebates Up to $2000 on 21 Fuel Efficient cars... 7 of them TOYOTAs!

toyotafanfan
03-20-2007, 10:38 AM
Sorry, Canada only! Only 1 Honda on the list!



"Canadian drivers are looking to lower their fuel bills. The ecoAUTO Rebate Program gives them a good way to do it!
As part of the Government of Canada’s plan to protect the environment, the ecoAUTO Rebate Program encourages Canadians to buy fuel-efficient vehicles. How? It offers rebates from $1000 to $2000, to people who, beginning March 20, 2007, buy or enter a long-term lease (12 months or more) for a fuel-efficient vehicle."

http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/ecoauto.htm

Honda Civic Hybrid
Rebate: $2000
1.3 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 4.5 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Tprius.gif Toyota Prius
Rebate: $2000
1.5 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 4.1 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Tcamryhybrid.gif Toyota Camry Hybrid
Rebate: $1500
2.4 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 5.7 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/minicooper.gif Mini Cooper
Rebate: $1000
1.6 L, 4 cylinder
6-speed Manual
CFCR = 6.5 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Tyaris.gif Toyota Yaris
Rebate: $1000
1.5 L, 4 cylinder
5-Speed Manual
CFCR = 6.3 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Tyaris.gif Toyota Yaris
Rebate: $1000
1.5 L, 4 cylinder
4-Speed Automatic
CFCR = 6.4 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Tcorolla.gif Toyota Corolla
Rebate: $1000
1.8 L, 4 cylinder
5-Speed Manual
CFCR = 6.3 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Naltimahybrid.gif Nissan Altima Hybrid
Rebate: $1500
2.5 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 5.8 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/fescapehybrid.gif Ford Escape HEV
Rebate: $2000
2.3 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 6.6 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Fescapehybrid.gif Ford Escape HEV 4X4
Rebate: $1500
2.3 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 7.4 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Svuehybrid.gif Saturn VUE Hybrid
Rebate: $1000
2.4 L, 4 cylinder
4-Speed Automatic
CFCR = 7.9 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Jcompass.gif Jeep Compass
Rebate: $1000
2.4 L, 4 cylinder
5-Speed Manual
CFCR = 8.2 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Jcompass.gif Jeep Compass
Rebate: $1000
2.0 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 8.3 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Jpatriot.gif Jeep Patriot
Rebate: $1000
2.4 L, 4 cylinder
5-Speed Manual
CFCR = 8.2 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Jpatriot.gif Jeep Patriot
Rebate: $1000
2.0 L, 4 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 8.3 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Lexus.gif Lexus RX 400H
Rebate: $1000
3.3 L, 6 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 7.9 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/Thighlanderhybrid.gif Toyota Highlander Hybrid 4X4
Rebate: $1000
3.3 L, 6 cylinder
Continuously Variable Transmission
CFCR = 7.9 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/chevimpalaffv.jpg Chevrolet Impala FFV
Rebate: $1000
3.5 L, 6 cylinder
4-speed Automatic
CFCR (E-85) = 12.3 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/chevmontecarlo.jpg Chevrolet Monte Carlo FFV
Rebate: $1000
3.5 L, 6 cylinder
4-speed Automatic
CFCR (E-85) = 12.3 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/chryslersebring.jpg Chrysler Sebring FFV
Rebate: $1000
2.7 L, 6 cylinder
4-speed Automatic
CFCR (E-85) = 13.0 L/100 km
http://www.tc.gc.ca/programs/environment/ecotransport/images/chryslersebring.jpg Chrysler Sebring FFV
Rebate: $1000
2.7 L, 6 cylinder
4-speed Automatic
with Manual Mode
CFCR (E-85) = 13.0 L/100 km

Z28Wilson
03-20-2007, 01:00 PM
Isn't it odd that even today, with all the hand-wringing in the media about how everyone is looking for more fuel-efficient alternatives, Canada (and the U.S.) still feels the need to entice people to buy these cars with tax breaks?

Instead of the government handing out money to people simply for the kind of car they buy, maybe the manufacturers should make these cars appealing for reasons other than their fuel mileage. It would seem the promise of $3/gallon for gas in the summer isn't enough to get people to change what they drive.

toyotafanfan
03-20-2007, 01:12 PM
Isn't it odd that even today, with all the hand-wringing in the media about how everyone is looking for more fuel-efficient alternatives, Canada (and the U.S.) still feels the need to entice people to buy these cars with tax breaks?

Instead of the government handing out money to people simply for the kind of car they buy, maybe the manufacturers should make these cars appealing for reasons other than their fuel mileage. It would seem the promise of $3/gallon for gas in the summer isn't enough to get people to change what they drive.

i don't know, I think some of those vehicles are pretty appealing. I do think that this money would be better spent elsewhere, however it will help sell a few more Toyotas.

Fan

Z28Wilson
03-20-2007, 01:23 PM
i don't know, I think some of those vehicles are pretty appealing. I do think that this money would be better spent elsewhere, however it will help sell a few more Toyotas.


Yeah, this list isn't so bad. In fact, I'm a little surprised with some of the cars on this list. The U.S. is much more restrictive in what they give a tax credit on. Usually if it isn't a hybrid you can forget about it.

North Americans generally still prefer bigger, roomier cars with some power. We're willing to give up a few MPG for these traits.

stuts
03-20-2007, 01:57 PM
I wish I would of waited could of got a nice rebate :sosad: still great to see :thumbup:

Lasse D
03-20-2007, 04:20 PM
If the Yaris gets a $1000 tax break (even the automatic!) because it's "fuel efficient", I wonder what would happen if it was sold with the engines that are actually fuel efficient! And how much of this tax relief is made because of fuel economy? - It is much harder to make the engines efficient and clean that just fuel efficient (take a look at the Suzuki Alto as an example).

Tideland Prius
03-21-2007, 12:15 AM
Damn it!!! That's $4,000 off the price of a Prius in BC!!!! Bah.. I only got $750 back... That's what you get for leading the pack :(.

Well, at least it's a step in the right direction because people have been complaining that only hybrids got a rebate and not other fuel efficient cars.

ghettosled
03-22-2007, 01:20 PM
why isnt the accord hybrid and chevy aveo on there (maybe they arent offered up north?) and why are those jeeps on there - other than having 4-cylinder motors, they dont seem more fuel efficient than any other 4-cylinder vehicle on the market?

toyotafanfan
03-22-2007, 01:34 PM
why isnt the accord hybrid and chevy aveo on there (maybe they arent offered up north?) and why are those jeeps on there - other than having 4-cylinder motors, they dont seem more fuel efficient than any other 4-cylinder vehicle on the market?

The Accord Hybrid does not have that great of fuel economy. It has about 25% worse fuel economy than the Camry Hybrid.

The Jeeps are there becuase there is a special category for SUV fuel economy, and they meet the SUV standard.

Fan

Tideland Prius
03-22-2007, 04:50 PM
why isnt the accord hybrid and chevy aveo on there (maybe they arent offered up north?) and why are those jeeps on there - other than having 4-cylinder motors, they dont seem more fuel efficient than any other 4-cylinder vehicle on the market?
Because the Chevy Aveo with the 1.6 litre engine gets WORSE mileage than the Civic or Corolla with 1.8 litre engines. (Heck, even the 2.0 litre Aerio can match it withi 145hp)

ECHOKnight2000
03-22-2007, 07:36 PM
Because the Chevy Aveo with the 1.6 litre engine gets WORSE mileage than the Civic or Corolla with 1.8 litre engines. (Heck, even the 2.0 litre Aerio can match it withi 145hp)

Ditto!:thumbup:

rolla-XRS
03-25-2007, 12:23 PM
Industry rumour is that Honda is abandoning their hybrid cars since they can't seem to make them profitable enough (read: low sales volumes). This includes the Accord hybrid which stank.

Tideland Prius
03-25-2007, 06:20 PM
Industry rumour is that Honda is abandoning their hybrid cars since they can't seem to make them profitable enough (read: low sales volumes). This includes the Accord hybrid which stank. I'll complete your rumour.

Honda is abandoning hybrid technology in larger vehicles and sticking them in Civic and lower classes.

Edit: The HAH failed because it was Cdn$4,000 more than the EX-V6 and only a 5hp bump and not much increase in FE. I've test driven the HAH in the winter (which in the west coast, isn't much of a winter lol). My avg was 13.6L/100km (it was 13.7 when I started). The engine stopped at the traffic light for ~10 secs then idled the rest of the time. The heater wasn't running at high heat (set at 21.0°C) with OAT probably at +5. It wasn't raining at the time of the test drive.

Even the new Nissan Altima Hybrid is expected to come in at $33k which is $1k more than the TCH and Prius.

vasia
03-25-2007, 07:19 PM
Interesting to note that the Chevy Cobalt and Mazda 3 aren't eligible, since both of those models happen to be two of the worst compact cars when it comes to fuel economy.

February 2007 Canadian car sales (in order) were the Honda Civic, Mazda 3, Chevy Cobalt, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Yaris, Pontiac Pursuit/G5, Ford Focus, Toyota Camry, Dodge Caliber and Nissan Altima.

Civic sales are dropping significantly, but should get a boost from these rebates. The Corolla and Yaris will also get a boost, while the Mazda 3 and Chevy Cobalt could likely lose sales because of this.

84Cressida
03-25-2007, 11:19 PM
Well the Cobalt just sucks in general anyway.

Tideland Prius
03-26-2007, 12:40 PM
Yeah I was reading the Sun today. How come Civic sales are dropping in its second year?

Edit: Do FFV really get that worse mileage? 13L/100km from a 2.7 litre 6 cylinder is pretty bad.

vasia
03-27-2007, 12:45 PM
Several reasons for the Civic sales drop. First off, a lot of buyers are being turned off and alienated by the strange exterior and interior. Honda went a bit too radical styling-wise on the new Civic. Another factor is the higher overall price of the Civic. Especially when you add any sort of options, the Civic quickly gets very pricey. A Mazda 3 is cheaper, and a Corolla is a lot cheaper. The Civic with several options can easily get close to Camry-level pricing, and when that happens, a lot of people begin to wonder about getting a Camry over a Civic.

stuts
03-27-2007, 02:32 PM
Several reasons for the Civic sales drop. First off, a lot of buyers are being turned off and alienated by the strange exterior and interior. Honda went a bit too radical styling-wise on the new Civic. Another factor is the higher overall price of the Civic. Especially when you add any sort of options, the Civic quickly gets very pricey. A Mazda 3 is cheaper, and a Corolla is a lot cheaper. The Civic with several options can easily get close to Camry-level pricing, and when that happens, a lot of people begin to wonder about getting a Camry over a Civic.

also more option of cars are out now :thumbup:

Tideland Prius
03-28-2007, 01:16 AM
True but I give kudos to Honda for bringing some excitement to the mundane compact car class (sorta like what Mazda did when it introduced the Mazda3). Besides, I kinda like the two-tiered dash (esp. since the Prius has a similar setup).

Hmm, the Corolla is up there in Camry pricing too. a 2003 Corolla LE auto pkg "B" retailed for $23,795. A 5-spd 2003 Camry LE started at $23,795 lol.

Now that same Corolla LE pkg "B retails for nearly $25k and the Camry starts at $25k.

Now, if you're talking base price, that's a whole different story cause $17k for a base Civic is hella expensive even with the standard side/side curtains. A base Corolla retails for $15½k without side/side curtains.

That $2.5k is a lot of money for those looking at cars in that price range.