blown transmition at 11,000 miles

jaken1913
05-02-2007, 04:13 PM
so i have a 2007 toyota camry and on my way home from work at about 10,987 miles on the car it strted leaking fluid i could smeel it burning and i had it towed to my dealer they say the trans blew and is not covered by warenty becasue theres rubber under the car showing signs of racing not ot mention who races a 4 cylinder? and they want 6,000 grand ot fix it what do i do?

JSM1284
05-02-2007, 04:19 PM
Have you been racing it? Plus driving with the pedal to the floor would not void warranty. Call Toyota Corporate and file a claim.

BuckeyeSE
05-02-2007, 04:25 PM
what do you mean 'rubber under the car'?

JSM1284
05-02-2007, 04:26 PM
He means from the tires spinning during a burnout causing rubber to stick in the wheel wells and under the rocker

jaken1913
05-02-2007, 04:36 PM
wwere do i go to file a cl,aim?

JSM1284
05-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Call Toyota Customer line.... 1-800-331-4331

jaken1913
05-02-2007, 04:50 PM
what do you think they will do for me?

JSM1284
05-02-2007, 05:19 PM
They will contact the dealer, Further investigate what caused the failure, Unless they can PROVE your heavy foot caused the failure, They HAVE to warranty it.

Aceventura9586
05-02-2007, 06:36 PM
thats the biggest pile of stinky shit i've ever heard. you can get rubber underneath just from your tires running fast, hard turns and such, especially when they're warmed up or the road's hot. thats dumb. nascar drivers get rubber too, and they just make left turns all day.

tom5681
05-02-2007, 07:11 PM
Wow, why are dealerships such bullshitters. Too bad they couldn't think up a better excuse to refuse your warranty. How can rubber under the car mean there's signs of racing. Racing cars have rubber under their cars, yes maybe, but so do a lot of other cars that DONT RACE AT ALL. Definitely talk to toyota corporate.

I drive my transmission pretty hard and I haven't had a problem yet (knock on wood). I've got a 4cyl automatic and there's about 24000 kilometers of hard driving on my transmission. I don't race my car (not yet) but since it's only a 4cyl so I usually floor it from stops to get the acceleration I want. I downshift through all the gears from high speeds and the engine's usually 3/4 to redline or more. I thought that since the engine's not not gonna break my tranny since it's not a v6, it's not tubo'd, it's completely stock! Now after I've seen this posting I'm a little worried about how far this tranny will take me. I should really start to take it easy on the car but it's really not my driving style. Oh well. Anyway, I hope toyota takes care of you man. I don't see how they could prove you were racing apart from them coming up with your license plate # that was registered in a race somewhere.

thapranksta
05-02-2007, 07:47 PM
A Camry tranny (with the exception of the problematic V6s :lol:) should take you to the end of the world and back. I don't think racing your car will fuck the transmission up, especially so early. The car is supposed to be able to take some abuse. You should be able to get that fixed because that doesn't make any sense.

CamrySExxx
05-02-2007, 09:14 PM
is there anything your not telling us ? :lol: but if it was normal driving its really odd seeing a tranny go at 11k...maybe you just got a defected one :thumbsdown:

Eyekutr
05-02-2007, 09:47 PM
does flooring your car often really void the warranty ? this thread is BS

Trojan
05-03-2007, 06:06 AM
is there anything your not telling us ? :lol: but if it was normal driving its really odd seeing a tranny go at 11k...maybe you just got a defected one :thumbsdown:
That's what I'm saying. I had a 1993 accord 4banger that I sold that went well over 160,000 of very hard-driving. (riced it out in my younger days and thought i was jeff gordon lol). Last I checked, the new owner is running it hard at 185,000 miles with tranny problems just starting to arise. Unless this guy juiced it up with some custom turbocharger and some nitro....

gdanaher
05-03-2007, 06:58 AM
That transmission should be able to handle anything the engine sends its way. Was he trying to pull an Air Stream or something? It's a 4I after all. That engine doesn't have enough guts to spin the wheels unless you took the time to grease them. Toyota owes him a new transmission.

jaken1913
05-03-2007, 11:05 AM
THey say theres somthing in the car that they printed showing the tires spun? is this true how the hell do they spin?

JSM1284
05-03-2007, 11:11 AM
Call Toyota Corporate with that number I gave you, tell them what happend, and they will cover it.

Camread
05-03-2007, 11:18 AM
unless you're skidding, to move, doesn't a tire have to rotate? :ugh3:

carlo$
05-03-2007, 11:47 AM
funny. threaten to sue them, get a good lawyer. no smart person would race a camry. especially 4 cyl.

thapranksta
05-03-2007, 11:51 AM
THey say theres somthing in the car that they printed showing the tires spun? is this true how the hell do they spin?

This has to be one of the funniest threads I have ever read. :lol: This is a joke, right?! It is time to stop kidding around now. You are causing mass hysteria in TN.

rsjyss
05-03-2007, 12:24 PM
even if you were doing burnouts... it shouldn't cause the tranny to leak. i've never heard of or seen a car, that burnouts caused excessive tranny case pressure causing the seal to blow, so it would leak

the leaking fluid, then lack of fluid to cool the tranny, lead to it's failure. probably burning up some clutches etc.

somethimg is not right here..... all the facts or info. from both ends.

is there any visable signs under the car? from bottoming out? hitting the undercarraige etc.? are they claiming abuse because of visable markings under the car and then the rubber?

if there's no damage under the car... then their claim of rubber has nothing to do with your tranny failure, as there was a LEAK first! it's how the LEAK started they and you should focus on and your arguement.

i'd take my car to another dealer and take the advice of JSM1284 and file a complaint as well.

Raddius
05-03-2007, 01:19 PM
I dunno what bat outta hell I4 came in your Camry, but mine isn't capable of spinning the wheels... :D

I think the only time the wheels came loose from the pavement was when I had to gun it out of parking lot onto a busy street. And even then it was just a split second chirp while I was turning and weight was shifting off of one of the front tires.

rsjyss
05-03-2007, 03:25 PM
I dunno what bat outta hell I4 came in your Camry, but mine isn't capable of spinning the wheels... :D

I think the only time the wheels came loose from the pavement was when I had to gun it out of parking lot onto a busy street. And even then it was just a split second chirp while I was turning and weight was shifting off of one of the front tires.

Left Foot holds the brake firmly to the floor and then the Right Foot Squeezes the throttle to full. Called a Burnout! :)

Too many unanswered questions to what had happened before the tranny failure.... to come to any conclusion.

I know GM monitors message boards like this and at times will black flag racers who abuse their cars. One day someone is bragging about going 11's in their Camaro with some juice, next day he lifts a few ring lands and punches a hole in a piston, then nitrous kit is off the car and it's at the dealer for warranty... then it's denied!

Anyhow, if the original thread starter takes some of this to PM with JSM1284 or myself or anyone for advice on what to do next.... then at least what really happened (if anything - burnouts, abuse etc.) could be told and then some proper advice to do next will be more accurate.

I know when friends cars hit the wall at the track or hurt the motor or drivetrain... you always tow the car miles from the track, then get another tow truck to pick you up. This way insurance won't say you were racing it when they investigate that the car was picked up at a track. ;)

Raddius
05-03-2007, 03:35 PM
Left Foot holds the brake firmly to the floor and then the Right Foot Squeezes the throttle to full. Called a Burnout! :)
Ahhhh, gotcha. I guess we all know I don't race. :lol:

toyomoho
05-03-2007, 03:47 PM
Be polite but firm with the dealership and anyone you talk to with Toyota. If you piss them off or threaten to sue they will take a very adversarial position. Their first position may be to look for reasons to deny the claim. I don’t have all the facts here but, your position would be the trans was defective and you want it fixed. Ask Toyota to explain in detail (and in writing) exactly why they are denying the claim. If in their opinion evidence of abuse exists have them state exactly what this is and how it caused the transmission failure.

rsjyss
05-03-2007, 03:55 PM
Not sure if the I4 tranny is sealed like the 6spd, but if not... pull the dipstick and inspect the fluid. If it smells like burnt and is dark brown (not translucent) then it was overheated and not a good sign. Now it's how it got to this state.

If the fluid smells and looks normal.... then something else is going on. Again, how did the leak start.. is probably the question I'd be trying to figure out. If there's physical damage and the tranny pan has a dent in it or under carraige damage near/around the tranny... then....

Streaker
05-04-2007, 06:06 PM
That sucks ! I better start scraping my front wheel-wells:yikes:

thapranksta
05-04-2007, 06:55 PM
That sucks ! I better start scraping my front wheel-wells:yikes:

:confused:

marc780
05-05-2007, 09:01 AM
Lazy, stinkin' cheat-bastard dealership! :bash: :fuckyou: 11,000 miles on the car and he has the nerve to blame you for the trans blowing up? Bullsh$t, i'd raise some kinda Hell to get a new trans from toyota, hire a lawyer if you have to, the dealer is just taking the easy way out and hoping you will be quiet and go away. I'd force them to fix this problem - because this is obviously what it is going to take - and then once the problem is fixed, i'd neverg o to this dealership ever again.

EuroPlate
05-05-2007, 09:16 AM
I don't get why the dealer is causing such a stink about this...its not costing him anything as the transmission is covered by Toyota's warranty and not the dealers...

All he's losing is potential customers for being an ass...

TRD VVTi
05-05-2007, 10:54 AM
I am guessing that the author of this thread hit something or damaged the car somehow and caused a transmission fluid leak. That person continued to drive until the transmission was wrecked. Toyota wouldn't cover it in that case because it's not a defect.

I've seen that many times.

Just because the car is under warranty doesn't mean that if something is wrong you can drive it into the ground and expect someone else to pay for it.

We'll probably never actually get the true facts regarding this situation.

EDIT: If that is the case and the dealer warranties it the dealer will get charged back. Toyota will gladly pay the dealer to repair any defects under warranty. Toyota will also be more than happy to make the dealer pay for repairs that aren't actually warranty.

marc780
05-05-2007, 04:39 PM
I don't get why the dealer is causing such a stink about this...its not costing him anything as the transmission is covered by Toyota's warranty and not the dealers...

All he's losing is potential customers for being an ass...

Obviously the dealer doesnt care about that, basically it sounds like dealer is all about "go away and dont bother me."
The only "evidence" the dealer has is that there was supposed to be tire rubber under the body which they are saying was from doing burnouts or some sh^t. Unless the dealer has a chemist on staff, how can he tell that it is tire rubber and not asphalt from the road or some combination therof...the answer is, he CAN'T tell what it is.
And if there were physical damage to the trans like hitting something, there'd be broken castings or a dented pan to show it. And he would have mentioned it in his post. POS, lazy dealer is what it sounds like to me! He oughta name this dealership so everybody can make a point never to go there and he goes out of business from being a selfish, stupid ass.

RICO8458
05-05-2007, 07:43 PM
call the state attorney general and file a complaint. also contact the better business burearu, and the city or town consumer protection division.. let them know you will file these complaints if they do not replace it. that car is new, they have to fix it. no charge to you. you will then see them change their tune and help you. like was mentioned here, even if you press it to the pedal that does not void your warrenty. but what evidence did they present to substantiate that you were racing? rubber? never heard of that one before.

RICO8458
05-05-2007, 07:45 PM
I am guessing that the author of this thread hit something or damaged the car somehow and caused a transmission fluid leak. That person continued to drive until the transmission was wrecked. Toyota wouldn't cover it in that case because it's not a defect.

I've seen that many times.

Just because the car is under warranty doesn't mean that if something is wrong you can drive it into the ground and expect someone else to pay for it.

We'll probably never actually get the true facts regarding this situation.

EDIT: If that is the case and the dealer warranties it the dealer will get charged back. Toyota will gladly pay the dealer to repair any defects under warranty. Toyota will also be more than happy to make the dealer pay for repairs that aren't actually warranty.

very good point. this scenario may indeed void a warrenty. we will need some forensics...lol.

EnderSavesTheDa
05-05-2007, 11:40 PM
have you been improperly down shifting your auto tranny, especially to red line? Don't answer that question... just think about it...

rsjyss
05-06-2007, 01:10 AM
have you been improperly down shifting your auto tranny, especially to red line? Don't answer that question... just think about it...

that won't make a tranny leak..... there's a soft rev limiter that will cut fuel anyhow. read my post from pages before..... the story is not 100% told from the original author. need all the facts... so i wouldn't call foul on the dealer and Toyota yet.

like i said before... he needs to focus on how the leak occured.

TRD VVTi
05-06-2007, 04:09 PM
that won't make a tranny leak..... there's a soft rev limiter that will cut fuel anyhow. read my post from pages before..... the story is not 100% told from the original author. need all the facts... so i wouldn't call foul on the dealer and Toyota yet.

like i said before... he needs to focus on how the leak occured.

:werd:

wireless
05-06-2007, 04:22 PM
I am guessing that the author of this thread hit something or damaged the car somehow and caused a transmission fluid leak. That person continued to drive until the transmission was wrecked. Toyota wouldn't cover it in that case because it's not a defect.

I've seen that many times.

Just because the car is under warranty doesn't mean that if something is wrong you can drive it into the ground and expect someone else to pay for it.

We'll probably never actually get the true facts regarding this situation.

EDIT: If that is the case and the dealer warranties it the dealer will get charged back. Toyota will gladly pay the dealer to repair any defects under warranty. Toyota will also be more than happy to make the dealer pay for repairs that aren't actually warranty.

Wise words, my friend.:thumbup: