Toyota Tacoma Is Best-Selling, Highest-Quality Pickup In Its Segment

humanoid
10-06-2007, 03:26 PM
Toyota Tacoma Is Best-Selling, Highest-Quality Pickup In Its Segment

October 1, 2007 – Torrance, CA - The midsize Toyota Tacoma is the best-selling pickup truck in its segment, and is equipped with some of the most sophisticated dynamic control technology in its class.

The Tacoma offers four-cylinder and V6 engines, 4x2 and 4x4 drivetrains, and the popular PreRunner models that combine the 4x2 drivetrain with the 4x4's raised riding stance and styling. Leading the Tacoma line in performance and style, the unique X-Runner model blends concept-truck design with sports car performance from a 236-horsepower V6 engine and a specially tuned chassis.

The Tacoma line offers 18 different model configurations based on three cab types: Regular Cab, Access Cab, and the four-door Double Cab. The Tacoma Regular Cab and Access Cab models feature a 73.5-inch-long bed. The Double Cab is available with a choice of a 60.3-inch bed or the 73.5-inch bed.

Freedom of Choice
Tacoma Regular Cab 4x2 models are built on a 109.4-inch wheelbase; PreRunner and 4x4 Regular Cab Tacomas are built on a 110-inch wheelbase; 4x2 Access Cab models ride on a 127.2-inch wheelbase, and Access Cab PreRunner and 4x4 wheelbase is 127.8-inches. The Tacoma Double Cab with the standard five-foot bed shares the 127.8-inch wheelbase, and the Double Cab long-bed models use a 140.9-inch wheelbase.

The Tacoma line offers a choice between two engines: a 2.7-liter DOHC four-cylinder engine that produces 159 horsepower and 180 lb-ft. of torque and a 4.0-liter DOHC V6 that produces 236 horsepower and 266 lb-ft. of torque. In both engines variable valve timing with intelligence (VVT-i) helps provide strong low-end and mid-range torque. An Electronic Throttle Control System with intelligence (ETCS-i) helps optimize performance and fuel economy.

The V6 engine can be teamed with either a six-speed manual or a five-speed automatic transmission. The four-cylinder models offer a choice between a five-speed manual and a four-speed automatic transmission.

Head-Turning Style, Impressive Utility
With its big, bold headlights and grille, Tacoma projects a strong, rugged appearance. Flush rear surface glass and flush surface structures between the bumper sides and body give Tacoma a sophisticated, clean look. PreRunner and 4x4 models are distinguished by bold overfenders. Tacoma features an integrated trailer hitch and bumper design. Properly equipped, the V6-powered Tacoma models can tow up to 6,500 pounds. Double Cab models offer a first-in-class roof rack system with crossbars that deploy from the roof rails.

The Tacoma's composite inner bed is made from a sheet-molded compound (SMC) deck and walls that are 10 percent lighter than steel, yet tough and durable. The bed deck features two-tier loading and integrated deck rail utility that includes four standard adjustable tie-down cleats. The rails are compatible with Genuine Toyota Accessories, including cargo bed cross bars, a fork-mount bike rack, and diamond-plate storage boxes. An available 115V/400W powerpoint further extends the bed's utility.

Dual rear access doors on the Tacoma Access Cab models open to 80 degrees to give passengers easy ingress and egress. Interior storage has been maximized in Access Cab models with tumble-flat rear seats and underseat storage. Double Cab models feature additional storage behind the rear seatback. On all models with front bucket seats (except the sport seats), the front passenger seat folds flat and integrates into a tray table.

X-Runner: Muscle Truck Meets Sports Car
A performance truck factory-developed as a separate and dedicated model, the X-Runner showcases the Tacoma line's 236-horsepower 4.0-liter V6 engine in a specially lowered and tuned chassis. The X-Runner name is derived from its “X-Brace” frame reinforcement that provides enhanced torsional rigidity.

Available exclusively with a six-speed manual transmission and also equipped with a limited-slip rear differential, the X-Runner can accelerate from zero-to-60 MPH in less than seven seconds. Just as impressive, X-Runner can achieve lateral acceleration in excess of 0.9-g – comparable with many sports cars.

The X-Runner's Access Cab design incorporates full body kit, a hood scoop and integrated fog lamps. The color-keyed monochromatic exterior comes in three colors – Radiant Red, Black Sand and Speedway Blue.

The X-Runner suspension is lowered one inch versus the standard Tacoma and rolls on 18-inch alloy wheels with 255/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza performance tires. Exclusive X-Runner suspension incorporates firmer and shorter springs, specially tuned Bilstein gas shock absorbers positioned outboard of the frame rails for increased stability, a rear stabilizer bar with firmer bushings, and specially tuned steering response.

Safety First with Dynamic Control + Occupant Protection
Tacoma offers some of the most sophisticated dynamic control technology in the segment. Anti-lock brakes (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist (BA) are standard on all models, and Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) is available for all models. EBD optimizes brake pressure at each wheel independently for greater control under braking, especially when cornering. Brake Assist is designed to determine if the driver is attempting emergency braking. If the driver has not pressed firmly enough on the brake pedal to engage the ABS, the system supplements the applied braking power until pedal pressure is released.

The optional VSC system, which integrates traction control (TRAC), enhances traction on or off-road by helping to keep the vehicle going on its intended course. VSC detects front-wheel slide and rear-wheel slide during cornering and attempts to control either condition with throttle intervention and/or by braking individual wheels.

On some Tacoma models, the VSC and TRAC systems also includes Automatic Limited-slip Differential (Auto-LSD), which uses brake intervention in place of a mechanical-type LSD unit to help reduce tire slippage at the rear wheels. (The TRD Off-Road Package uses a locking rear differential, and the TRD Sport Package is equipped with a mechanical limited-slip rear differential.)

On automatic transmission models, the VSC and TRAC option includes Hill-start Assist Control (HAC). By independently controlling the brakes at each wheel as needed, HAC helps to prevent the vehicle from rolling backward or slipping sideways during a transition from a stopped position to climbing a grade. When VSC is ordered along with the TRD Off-Road Package on 4x4 V6 automatic models, it includes HAC and Downhill Assist Control (DAC). DAC uses engine braking to regulate downhill speed and independently control the brakes at each of the four wheels to help improve directional stability. DAC also works in reverse and is automatically de-activated if the driver depresses the brake or accelerator pedals, presses the DAC button, or shifts into neutral.

All seating positions on every Tacoma model are equipped with three-point seatbelts, and all Tacoma models are equipped with the advanced dual-stage airbag system. A front passenger cutoff switch is standard on Access Cab models. Double Cab models offer optional front seat side airbags and roll-sensing side curtain airbags (including a cutoff switch).

Modern Comfort
The Tacoma interior provides durability and comfort with high-grade fabric and generous standard equipment. Sound absorption material in the headliner and behind the rear seats and insulating carpeting help to provide a quiet cabin. Exterior aerodynamic details help reduce wind noise.

A three-pod instrument gauge panel lends a sporty look in all models. The center console (standard on Access Cab and Double Cab models; available with bucket seats on Regular Cab models) flows into the instrument panel for a unified appearance. The console integrates three cupholders, two of which can accommodate extra-large containers.

All Tacoma models provide dual bottle holders in driver's- and passenger's-side doors. Audio controls are mounted high for easy access. Higher-grade models feature fabric-covered sun visors and an overhead console with map lights and compartments for sunglasses and a garage door opener.

High Performance Options and Accessories
Toyota offers a variety of performance parts and option packages for the Tacoma. The TRD Off-Road Package provides a carefully tuned balance of off-road performance and on-road handling. Chassis modifications include a locking rear differential, progressive-rate front springs, specially tuned Bilstein shock absorbers, a 28-mm front stabilizer bar and 265/70R16 BF Goodrich Rugged Trail tires on 16-inch alloy wheels. Fog lamps and TRD graphics top off the package for a tough, sporty appearance.

The Rugged Trail Off-Road Package is new for the Tacoma's 2008 model year and is available only on V6 models with black, white or silver exterior paint colors. Similar to the TRD Off-Road Package it includes locking rear differential, progressive-rate front springs, specially tuned Bilstein shock absorbers, stabilizer bar and TRD graphics. The Rugged Trail Off-Road Package also features black 16-inch Baja wheels, black overfenders, skid plate, and all-weather guard floor mats.
The TRD Sport Package is road-focused and features its own specific suspension tuning, a limited-slip rear differential and lower-profile 265/65R17 tires on 17-inch alloy wheels. This package also gives Tacoma a sporty street look with fog lamps, a hood scoop, TRD graphics and a color-keyed rear bumper, mirrors, grille surround and door handles.

Both TRD option packages include a 400W/115V powerpoint in the bed, sport seats with adjustable lumbar support and unique fabric, plus an overhead console with a compass and outside temperature display. Double Cabs with the long-bed and the TRD Sport Package also include an available electrochromic auto-dimming rear-view mirror.

The available dealer-installed TRD Big Brake system was developed by Toyota Technical Center and TRD engineers. Engineered to provide effective braking performance under sustained heavy use, the Big Brake system dramatically improves pedal feel and substantially reduces brake fade from repeated high-speed stops. The system uses 13 x 1.25-inch semi-floating vented rotors with directional internal fins; forged aluminum four-piston fixed calipers; larger pads with high coefficient-of-friction material, and braided steel lines.

Compelling Value, Simplified Ordering
The well-equipped 4x2 Regular Cab model includes as standard equipment anti-lock brakes (ABS) with Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist (BA); a full-size spare tire; AM/FM CD 4-speaker sound system; tachometer; digital clock; two instrument panel powerpoints with a lighter; dome lamp, and rear mudguards.

The Access Cab and Double Cab models add more standard features, including bucket seats, a center console, and, in Double Cab models, upgraded seat fabric and power windows, mirrors and door locks. All option combinations are built on five packages. An Enhancement Package for the 4x2 Regular Cab adds air conditioning and styled steel wheels. The Convenience Package adds cruise control, remote keyless entry, and power windows, door locks and mirrors.

The SR5 Package bundles styling and comfort features, including color-keyed overfenders and front bumper, chrome grille surround and chrome rear bumper, center console (in models where it is not standard), intermittent wipers and upgraded interior features and trim. In Access Cab and Double Cab models, the SR5 package also adds a leather-wrapped steering wheel and shifter lever.

Access Cab and Double Cab models offer upgraded audio systems, including an AM/FM/in-dash six-disc CD changer and six speakers. Double Cab models offer a JBL premium audio system with seven speakers, including an amplified subwoofer. Both audio upgrades feature steering wheel audio controls.

The eighth generation of Toyota compact pickups, which first launched in 1964, the Tacoma accounts for nearly 10 percent of Toyota sales in the United States. The Tacoma is assembled at the New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc. (NUMMI) production facility in Fremont, Calif. and Toyota Motor Manufacturing de Baja California (TMMBC) production facility in Tijuana, Baja Calif., Mexico.

Toyota's 36-month/36,000-mile basic new-vehicle limited warranty applies to all components other than normal wear and maintenance items. Additional 60-month warranties cover the powertrain for 60 months/60,000 miles and corrosion perforation for 60 months with no mileage limitation.

RAV4EVR
10-08-2007, 05:10 PM
Ofcourse... :thumbup: :)

100$ GUY
10-09-2007, 12:56 PM
Ofcourse... :thumbup: :)

+100!

100$ GUY
10-09-2007, 12:58 PM
ANyway, Im sure expecting changes for the 09 model... perhaps some coming from the all new 4runner, since they usually share a lot. :thumbup:

nicokpe
10-10-2007, 12:18 AM
good bro :thumbup:

84Cressida
10-10-2007, 01:39 AM
Eat that GM, eat it!

CACressida
10-10-2007, 03:49 AM
My favorite feature of the 2007 Tacomas is when you push the brakes it decides to redline!! :) Definetly a good feature. :D

engineer
10-10-2007, 09:58 AM
My favorite feature of the 2007 Tacomas is when you push the brakes it decides to redline!! Definetly a good feature.

Oh, my favorite feature is the weak rear suspension. . . . Or maybe the weak tailgate that bends when you sit on it. . . .;)

Seriously though, is there any other truck that competes with it? The GMT-355's are a joke, the Ranger is truly a class size smaller than the Tacoma, the Dakota is junk, and the Frontier is a pig (though arguably the closes competitor to the Tacoma). . . . . Honestly, if you want a mid-sized truck, what else are you going to choose?

So long as you know when you buy it that it's going to try and kill you (mysterious surge when sitting at a light, or accelerates uncontrollably at highway speeds!!!!). . . . . . and you know that you can't do real truck stuff with it (like carry small loads in the bed without it hitting the bump stops). . . . . . . and you know you cant put anything on the tailgate (or else it will bend!!). . . . .and you can put up with small annoyances like driveline vibration and rear suspension squeak. . . . It's the perfect midsize truck. . . . . .

It has it’s issues, but still the best midsized truck out there (what’s that say about the other offerings?!?!?). :ugh3:

JustAnotherAsian
10-10-2007, 05:16 PM
^nothing a few tsb can't fix.

haha jk.

HomeGrown
10-10-2007, 08:00 PM
It has it’s issues, but still the best midsized truck out there (what’s that say about the other offerings?!?!?). :ugh3:

Nothing worth benchmarking? :D

Shoot for mediocrity, you're sure to hit it. :D

Bakemono
10-11-2007, 12:43 AM
Oh, my favorite feature is the weak rear suspension. . . . Or maybe the weak tailgate that bends when you sit on it. . . .;)
So long as you know when you buy it that it's going to try and kill you (mysterious surge when sitting at a light, or accelerates uncontrollably at highway speeds!!!!). . . . . . and you know that you can't do real truck stuff with it (like carry small loads in the bed without it hitting the bump stops). . . . . . . and you know you cant put anything on the tailgate (or else it will bend!!). . . . .and you can put up with small annoyances like driveline vibration and rear suspension squeak. . . . It's the perfect midsize truck. . . . . .

The issues with surging can be traced back to an incorrect fluid level in the transmission and as far as you claims of a weak rear suspension and a tailgate that bends easily, I offer this thread: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213203

CACressida
10-11-2007, 02:21 AM
Oh, my favorite feature is the weak rear suspension. . . . Or maybe the weak tailgate that bends when you sit on it. . . .;)

Seriously though, is there any other truck that competes with it? The GMT-355's are a joke, the Ranger is truly a class size smaller than the Tacoma, the Dakota is junk, and the Frontier is a pig (though arguably the closes competitor to the Tacoma). . . . . Honestly, if you want a mid-sized truck, what else are you going to choose?

So long as you know when you buy it that it's going to try and kill you (mysterious surge when sitting at a light, or accelerates uncontrollably at highway speeds!!!!). . . . . . and you know that you can't do real truck stuff with it (like carry small loads in the bed without it hitting the bump stops). . . . . . . and you know you cant put anything on the tailgate (or else it will bend!!). . . . .and you can put up with small annoyances like driveline vibration and rear suspension squeak. . . . It's the perfect midsize truck. . . . . .

It has it’s issues, but still the best midsized truck out there (what’s that say about the other offerings?!?!?). :ugh3:Jeez thats alota issues. Well atleast we know the Hilux still exists :) The new daddy of the best midsize truck.

http://www.privatefleet.com.au/images/upload/Hilux.jpg

http://www.buschtaxi.org/cms/fileadmin/daten/fahrzeuge/hilux/070401_hilux_2007/hilux_2007_02.jpg

engineer
10-11-2007, 09:35 AM
The issues with surging can be traced back to an incorrect fluid level in the transmission. . . .

I have yet to hear of a root cause to the surging, I'd like to see some sort of external link saying it is the fluid level of the transmission. I'm sure the NHTSA would love to hear about it as well, so they can close their investigation (Toyota is probably interested too, last I heard they were still trying to figure it out).

and as far as you claims of a weak rear suspension and a tailgate that bends easily, I offer this thread: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213203

GREAT!!! But what are you trying to prove? That you can fit alot of stuff in the bed of a Tacoma? That doesn't mean the suspension can handle it (or the brakes, or transmission, or cooling system, etc). . . .it just proves that it fits. . . .reminds me of this:

http://archive.tltgroup.org/2007/FL20070413-5-MinClips&HybridFacDev/html/images/objects/obj4-2.jpg

Toyota offered a TSB for the weak suspension, so it's a known defect. . . . . The driveshaft/driveline vibration is a common complaint here on TN (and TS), as is the rear suspension squeak (wash your springs, duh?). As for the tailgate bending easy, there are many threads about it, and one ingenious owner has come up with a "saver" to help strengthen the stock tailgate. The word "tinfoil" comes to mind when owners describe their tailgates. . . . .nice. . . . .

Like I said, it's the best midsized truck out there, but it has it's issues. . . .

HomeGrown
10-11-2007, 06:27 PM
Here's how we do that in the USA:

http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Workshop/Lumber-Car-A.jpg

Bakemono
10-11-2007, 08:14 PM
I have yet to hear of a root cause to the surging, I'd like to see some sort of external link saying it is the fluid level of the transmission. I'm sure the NHTSA would love to hear about it as well, so they can close their investigation (Toyota is probably interested too, last I heard they were still trying to figure it out).

Several people on here have commented that they had their fluid level checked, found that it was low and once it was filled to the proper level that the issues with surging went away.
Im thinking the problem is in the transmission, because you dont hear of people with manual tranny Tacomas complaining about this.
As far as what I was trying to prove, I was proving that the Tacoma can indeed do, "real truck stuff". You know, such as hauling a bedload of firewood. I'll make sure I take pics next summer when I haul firewood with my '08 Tacoma and I'll make sure I take pics in the winter of '08/'09 when I haul my snowmobile with my Tacoma. That way we all can see beyond the shadow of a doubt that the Tacoma can indeed do, "real truck stuff".
Also, about the "tinfoil" tailgates, if I remember correctly Toyota fixed that problem on the '06 Tacomas by adding more braces to the inside of the tailgate.
You are right, the Tacomas do have some issues. I dont recall anyone ever saying the Tacoma is perfect.

100$ GUY
10-12-2007, 02:30 PM
Jeez thats alota issues. Well atleast we know the Hilux still exists :) The new daddy of the best midsize truck.

http://www.privatefleet.com.au/images/upload/Hilux.jpg

http://www.buschtaxi.org/cms/fileadmin/daten/fahrzeuge/hilux/070401_hilux_2007/hilux_2007_02.jpg


The king remains the Tacoma, always has better features all around than the hilux.

CACressida
10-12-2007, 11:33 PM
The king remains the Tacoma, always has better features all around than the hilux.
Uh, Hilux is the king. Its a true offroad hauling truck. Fully boxed frame with a 1ton payload capacity. A Tacoma can't touch that at all. A Tacoma has a plastic bed, a Hilux has a real bed with optional diesel motor. And as far as features go, the only thing I can think of that differes between the Hilux and the Tacoma feature-wise is optional VSC on the Tacoma, fake LSD (Tacoma) Hilux gets a locker, and how many bed lengths to cab configurations.

No thanks, i'll stick to the plain and simple rugged Hilux that has proven itself time and time again.

ECHOKnight2000
10-13-2007, 12:32 AM
^^^^I knew the Hilux and the Tacoma were related but the Tacoma is pretty much a "watered" down version of the Hilux?

Do we get the water down version so it doesn't step on the heels of the Tundra? Cause I assume the Tundra is sold in NA exclusively? Where's the rest of the world the full-sized truck market isn't as prevelant. Assuming that is the case.:confused:


Hilux looks and sounds pretty bad ass!:naughty::cool:

CACressida
10-13-2007, 06:45 AM
^^^^I knew the Hilux and the Tacoma were related but the Tacoma is pretty much a "watered" down version of the Hilux?

Do we get the water down version so it doesn't step on the heels of the Tundra? Cause I assume the Tundra is sold in NA exclusively? Where's the rest of the world the full-sized truck market isn't as prevelant. Assuming that is the case.:confused:


Hilux looks and sounds pretty bad ass!:naughty::cool:
Ofcourse the Hilux is bad ass. 2 Hiluxes and 1 LandCruiser Prado were the first and only cars ever to get to the Northpole. :D

A Tacoma isn't a watered down Hilux. When the Tacoma came out in 1995, it was no longer based off the Hilux chassis. The Tacoma went away with the fully boxed tried and true frame for open C chanel frame. Although the first generation Tacomas proved to be way better than the current Tacomas.

The new Hilux has a way different suspension setup, way different frame, way different chassis, way different body, and way different interior. The Hilux was designed to haul crap off pavement. I know for damn sure the Hilux in the Middle East has a payload of 1 ton. Thats way more than the Tundra.

The Hilux does share the option 4 and 6 cylinder petrol engines as the Tacoma, but the Hilux also gets an extra option. The diesl :) The Hilux isn't for the US market. Hilux is a true work horse designed for the socalled "third world."

ECHOKnight2000
10-13-2007, 08:14 AM
^^^Thanks for the explaination! :thumbup::cool:

Christian87N
10-13-2007, 05:34 PM
on my summer trip to Central America, i got a chance to drive one. The 3.0 D4-D is a seriously fast and strong monster. I dare say possibly faster than the x-runner. That engine is a very nice diesel. It should be offered here. :thumbup:

HomeGrown
10-13-2007, 06:06 PM
That makes me want one all the more. Pretty ironic and sick. Here we are in the automotive capitol of the world, and 3rd world countries have access to better trucks (and cars) than we have here. We can only dream of owning a Hilux over here.

Sulu
10-14-2007, 04:51 PM
That makes me want one all the more. Pretty ironic and sick. Here we are in the automotive capitol of the world, and 3rd world countries have access to better trucks (and cars) than we have here. We can only dream of owning a Hilux over here.

You could blame it on the "lowest-common denominator" and "bottom line": too many North Americans wanting something for the cheapest cost with no thought as to the quality. "You get what you pay for." We do not get the nice vehicles available in Japan (such as better-equipped Corollas and cars such as the Avensis that have a more sophisticated suspension system than the Camry's 4-wheel Mac Strut setup) and Western Europe (such as the European Ford Focus) because we are not willing to pay for them, so we have de-contented vehicles here, or less-sophisticated, older technology.

EvoFire
10-15-2007, 05:20 AM
You could blame it on the "lowest-common denominator" and "bottom line": too many North Americans wanting something for the cheapest cost with no thought as to the quality. "You get what you pay for." We do not get the nice vehicles available in Japan (such as better-equipped Corollas and cars such as the Avensis that have a more sophisticated suspension system than the Camry's 4-wheel Mac Strut setup) and Western Europe (such as the European Ford Focus) because we are not willing to pay for them, so we have de-contented vehicles here, or less-sophisticated, older technology.

I never thought about it that way. I guess its true, and I think it has to do with everyone needing a car here and they can't afford it. A lot of large cities else where have better mass transportation. People that buy cars are actually people that want them and will pay for one instead of paying as little as possible for a hunk of metal that will run.

100$ GUY
10-15-2007, 03:27 PM
Uh, Hilux is the king. Its a true offroad hauling truck. Fully boxed frame with a 1ton payload capacity. A Tacoma can't touch that at all. A Tacoma has a plastic bed, a Hilux has a real bed with optional diesel motor. And as far as features go, the only thing I can think of that differes between the Hilux and the Tacoma feature-wise is optional VSC on the Tacoma, fake LSD (Tacoma) Hilux gets a locker, and how many bed lengths to cab configurations.

No thanks, i'll stick to the plain and simple rugged Hilux that has proven itself time and time again.

So you're saying the tacoma is not a true offroad truck....thats quite a statement! Payload capacity doesnt differ much as u say neither.
The tacoma doesnt have a plastic bed, its SMC inned bed thats lighter than before, yet stronger, and optional diesel motor? That doesnt say anything at all, is just another choice, in fact, aint that optional, here all double cabs hilux come only with a turbo diesel, one, that may suit u, or may not , its another choice, one of course I dont like at all. And saying u can only find one difference between hilux and the tacoma feature wise shows only how much ignorance u have between these two models.

100$ GUY
10-15-2007, 03:31 PM
^^^^I knew the Hilux and the Tacoma were related but the Tacoma is pretty much a "watered" down version of the Hilux?

Do we get the water down version so it doesn't step on the heels of the Tundra? Cause I assume the Tundra is sold in NA exclusively? Where's the rest of the world the full-sized truck market isn't as prevelant. Assuming that is the case.:confused:


Hilux looks and sounds pretty bad ass!:naughty::cool:

In fact, the watered down version is the one u get here, in costarica, and is the hilux. People here admire and find more appealing the Tacoma, and its common for me to get plenty of looks and comments about my tacoma, because of his exclusivity, reputation and because its more expensive and has more features all around.

In looks, well is so subjective, so I wont say anything there, except it looks good . But have u ever heard a hilux accelerating? hahaha,or even better, at idle, or trying to keep on par with a tacoma? boy, that is so hilarious.

100$ GUY
10-15-2007, 03:39 PM
Anyway, its interesting how u guys desire so much the Hilux, and U dont have it there, and here we have the hilux, but many as well crave the tacoma, so, why dont u import one ? just as some people does it here.

ECHOKnight2000
10-15-2007, 03:43 PM
^^^Thanks for the info!

I don't know about Costa Rica's regulatioins if any but is it fair to say they aren't as stringint as the U.S. or Canada? as far as emissions, safety etc? If we did import a Hilux I'm sure it might be more than its worth. And it would be a hassle. I can't say I have heard a Hilux accelerate.
So you just imported your Tacoma to Costa Rica? Was it a hassle?

100$ GUY
10-18-2007, 12:00 PM
^^^Thanks for the info!

I don't know about Costa Rica's regulatioins if any but is it fair to say they aren't as stringint as the U.S. or Canada? as far as emissions, safety etc? If we did import a Hilux I'm sure it might be more than its worth. And it would be a hassle. I can't say I have heard a Hilux accelerate.
So you just imported your Tacoma to Costa Rica? Was it a hassle?

Well, I aint no genius at all in those issues, so unfortunately I cant really help u, but I'll say that yes it is fair to say they arent as stringint as the US or Canada, thats what I believe. Probably it would be expensive because of taxes? A hassle....well maybe not so much if u have a contact in CostaRica, I think life is all about of having the right connections. And when I bought my tacoma it was already here, because it was preowned, so in fact somebody else went thru the "hassle" of bring it here, but in fact I know that it was brought here tru our only toyota lexus dealer, so probably the customer didnt have to do much except bringing lots of $$$ :lol:.

plane
10-23-2007, 09:58 PM
My favorite feature of the 2007 Tacomas is when you push the brakes it decides to redline!! :) Definetly a good feature. :D

Slightly OT, Man, that is a cool looking Cressida in your sig line.
RWD Rulez!
Turbo'd? Yeah, I'm sure it is.
Bet you could smoke a Z06 with that puppy.

CACressida
10-23-2007, 11:14 PM
So you're saying the tacoma is not a true offroad truck....thats quite a statement! Payload capacity doesnt differ much as u say neither.
The tacoma doesnt have a plastic bed, its SMC inned bed thats lighter than before, yet stronger, and optional diesel motor? That doesnt say anything at all, is just another choice, in fact, aint that optional, here all double cabs hilux come only with a turbo diesel, one, that may suit u, or may not , its another choice, one of course I dont like at all. And saying u can only find one difference between hilux and the tacoma feature wise shows only how much ignorance u have between these two models.
What do I care what you guys in Costa Rica get? Your market isn't strong enough for more options such as the middle east and Australia. These countries get the V6 in your tacoma, the 4banger gassers and the turbo diesels. I have driven these vehicles, so don't give me no BS about the Taco VS Hilux. I know the facts. Does your tacoma have a 1 ton payload? I think not, so no there not "identical."
Slightly OT, Man, that is a cool looking Cressida in your sig line.
RWD Rulez!
Turbo'd? Yeah, I'm sure it is.
Bet you could smoke a Z06 with that puppy.Long time no see bro :)

Ofcourse it can, even a LandCruiser can smoke a Z06
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OxVROAVwQpQ

El Loco VG
10-28-2007, 10:21 AM
My uncle in the Dominican republic just bought a new truck there. A 08 tacoma TRD sport would of cost $54,000 US. An 08 hillux limited quad cab turbo diesel cost $47,000 US and this is the model with leather and wood dash. He bought the hillux becauce like the Toyota fortuner (4-runner equivalent) which is sold there they are diesel and diesel cost the equivalent of 3 bucks a gallon while gasoline is about 5-6 bucks a gallon. In my opinion the hillux is a much uglier truck than the taco much more plain looking. I wish they sold the Fortuner here it is such a beautiful truck it looks like a lexus from the rear and like the hillux in the front. I like the front of the hillux but thats where the beauty ends. Also in dr this truck is considered a luxury vehile as in the land cruiser prado which is big baller $100K american status!!!!

100$ GUY
10-31-2007, 03:31 PM
What do I care what you guys in Costa Rica get? Your market isn't strong enough for more options such as the middle east and Australia. These countries get the V6 in your tacoma, the 4banger gassers and the turbo diesels. I have driven these vehicles, so don't give me no BS about the Taco VS Hilux. I know the facts. Does your tacoma have a 1 ton payload? I think not, so no there not "identical."
Long time no see bro :)

Ofcourse it can, even a LandCruiser can smoke a Z06
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OxVROAVwQpQ

Should u care about our market? HELL NO
Fortunately your market is strong enough so u can only get the lame tacoma right? hahaha Man maybe try next time living in australia or the middle east so u can be less frustrated.
Do i want a tacoma with a 1 ton payload capacity? HELL NO,
Did I say they were identical? HELL NO, in fact, fortunately they arent
Of course every market gets the V6 in their tacoma, which of course is so much powerful and smoother and refined and faster than any engine from the hilux. So what, people still get a 4 cylinder hilux, but most people care about the top line model, with the turbodiesel. SO what u are saying? Man u are so funny, u seem to read whatever u invent in your mind, not the actual things I write. So next time, try harder.

solvertoo
11-02-2007, 09:45 PM
:disappoin:disappoin:disappoin:disappoin:disappoin :disappoin:disappoin:disappoin:confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::ugh3::ugh 3::ugh3::ugh3::ugh3::ugh3::ugh3::sosad::sosad::sos ad::sosad::sosad: Ok, here we go. I have an 06 Toyota Tacoma D-Cab, V6, Pre-Runner. Here's my angry history.
First 3 thousand to 33 thousand miles I had fairly regular checkups with the following dealerships: Toyota of Hollywood in Burbank, Power Toyota of Cerritos, and Crown Toyota (John Elway) in the city of Ontario California.

In each and every checkup there were a series of problems that I was encountering.
1. AC was making an intermittent ticking sound. It could never be replicated when it was serviced. It still makes noises off and on today.
2. Ticking noise was constantly heard from engine compartment. On the 2nd visit and second complaint it was fixed because of a Tech Service Bulletin Fix. The manifolds were replaced.
3. A clicking noise was and still is constantly heard from the engine compartment. It sounds like valves ticking even with high octane Shell, Chevron, or 76. All my claims are constantly being dismissed as "it's the same condition that exists with all Tacomas", therefor its normal. Ok, I bought it.
4. My rear end was constantly bottoming out and as a result it created a pretty harsh ride. What exactly does that mean? Well, every time I carried a full load of passengers / towed our 19' boat, / or hauled material in the bed it will bottom out. The slightest dip or speed bump even at 10mph is felt. Do I feel it when I'm by myself and the bed is empty, and there are no other passengers? Yes, but at higher speeds. Do I ever off-road my vehicle? NO. Oh, I also noticed that there's this traveling like effect while driving. It almost feels like the left and the right side are traveling at different speeds, but I only notice it on the 210 freeway, so it might just be road conditions.

Well, typically in the pre 35 thousand miles while under warranty Toyotas paper work would constantly state that they were unable to duplicate the problem, therefore there was nothing wrong with it. Hence, it was returned to me and I was left with no out or recourse. I was led to believe that it was probably my imagination.
I drive 120 to 200 miles a day giving estimates. Mileage adds up quick on me. I've also become very tuned into my vehicle as if we are one. Anyway, I hear and notice things all the time.

So, last week I'm reading through Tundra Solutions looking for Navigation solutions on Tacomas and Tundras, and I happen to stumble upon the article of another Tacoma owner complaining about his Tacoma bottoming out and the Technical Service Bulletin associated with it that was released back in July. So I call up my service adviser at Crown and ask about my eligibility for the fix. I was told that there should be no problem despite my high mileage. I called to make an appointment the second time and a girl answered and I asked about making an appointment and I told her about the issue that I was having, and she responded, telling me that my truck was beyond its warranty period. Oh, I have 66, thousand miles on it and purchased it in January of 06. Anyway, she gave me an 800 number to see if I was eligible.

I called the 800 number and spoke to the representative. The guy on the other end was extremely helpful, but ultimately couldn't understand why I was calling him more or less why he was dealing with me. He made note of the incident and contact a manager over there and she in turn followed up with me the following day regarding my appointment. I emphasized that this was documented by each dealership more than once before the 35k thousand miles.

Ok, I made the appointment and this time I loaded two 90 lbs bags of stucco in the bed and took it. I arrived and everything was hog wild in terms of why I was there. The service adviser "BRANDEN", whom made note of the issue in the past, was now playing the warranty game, since my truck was over the 35k warranty. -DIGRESSING - Good old Branden advised me in the past that he was making note of the specifics of my claims in the event that there was ever a fix. It appeared that he was trying to honor all of Toyotas products and associated warranties.

Well, a request was put in for one of the main mechanics to take a ride with me to witness the problem. A very short ride later after having hit a few small dips at 10, 20, and 30 miles per hour when he both heard and felt the bottoming out of the vehicle. He suggested that we go back to the service center. We got back and the first thing he did was look under the bed and he popped up and stated that the springs were flat on one side and off on the other side. WELL< HELL!

WHY DIDN'T EVERYONE ELSE DO THE SAME BEFORE, NOW WHEN IT'S TO MY CONVENIENCE TO HAVE THE ISSUE ADDRESSED, I'M DENIED. I'M DENIED ABOUT AN ISSUE THATS BEEN THERE ALL ALONG. I WAS SIMPLY TOLD "SORRY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR YOU. YOUR MILEAGE IS TOO FAR OVER THE WARRANTY.

WELL, I know why Ford truck commercial always ends with "BUILT FORD TOUGH", and thats because you can't beat the build of the domestic truck. Their much like the Timex watch, they can "take a licking and keep on ticking". I've never heard of any other 1/2 ton pickup not being able to carry a load. They should just call the Tacoma a CRUCK because it's more car than truck.

I've never been more disappointed with anything as much as I am this truck. Oh, outside of my complaints it's a great truck. It just fails where it counts most.
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I plan on filing a lawsuit in a small claims court to have this issue resolved. Please feel free to copy and paste my case information freely. I will update this article with the results of pursuit for justice. Oh, apparently it's about a $2,300 job plus tax. I"M PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
November 2, 2007
Derrick Regnier :disappoin:disappoin:disappoin:disappoin:disappoin :disappoin:disappoin:disappoin:confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::ugh3::ugh 3::ugh3::ugh3::ugh3::ugh3::ugh3::sosad::sosad::sos ad::sosad::sosad:

91MR2quickNA
11-02-2007, 10:40 PM
^ I know how you feel about the dumbass dealers, but I feel for you on the fact that they won't cover it. It was the dealer's negligence.

I've taken my 05 D-Cab in many times regarding the automatic transmission and its sloppy shifts. One time in traffic on the 15 freeway, it shifted from 1st to 2nd so badly the wheels hopped and the entire back end jumped up a bit. Still, the dealer couldn't duplicate the problem. I took it in various times from 8000 miles to 23k miles. They said it was normal. I complained about a smell coming from the engine compartment that was making me sick. They couldn't find it. It smelled like burning automatic transmission fluid. Well, at 26k miles, a main transmission seal blew and all of the automatic transmission fluid ended up all over the road, the entire frame, a good majority of the passenger side, and burned up on the exhaust creating a fire hazard, not to mention a poisonous chemical smell. The transmission blew up and literally burned itself out. The intense heat from the transmission caused the A/T Oil Temp and Check Engine lights to come on. The smoke exiting the back of the truck looked like a Formula 1 engine blowing up. It was a disaster. Anyway, when I had it towed in, everyone at the dealership was looking at it in surprise. When the techs finally pushed it in, every tech in there looked dumbfounded. They had quite a mess to clean up.

I've put about 4000 miles on the new tranny, and it shifts smooth as silk. For now. I have the 7 year/100,000 mile powertrain warranty if anything else goes wrong.

I have to bang on my CD player for it to play CDs. Still need to get that fixed. The truck only has 30k miles on it. You better believe I'm gonna make as many warranty claims as I need to.

El Loco VG
11-02-2007, 10:50 PM
The speedway blue ones are flawless

CACressida
11-03-2007, 10:56 AM
Should u care about our market? HELL NO
Fortunately your market is strong enough so u can only get the lame tacoma right? hahaha Man maybe try next time living in australia or the middle east so u can be less frustrated.
Do i want a tacoma with a 1 ton payload capacity? HELL NO,
Did I say they were identical? HELL NO, in fact, fortunately they arent
Of course every market gets the V6 in their tacoma, which of course is so much powerful and smoother and refined and faster than any engine from the hilux. So what, people still get a 4 cylinder hilux, but most people care about the top line model, with the turbodiesel. SO what u are saying? Man u are so funny, u seem to read whatever u invent in your mind, not the actual things I write. So next time, try harder.
First off, your an idiot. Not everyone wants a gas engine. How come that wont penetrate through your thick skull? I am middle eastern, and I do own a V6 4Runner in the middle east, and yes i've driven a diesel powered Hilux top of the line side by side with the V6. The diesel is the torque monster. The gas engine requires to rev up hills to get it going, the diesel idles all the way to the top.

If gas > diesel engines, you think Americans would pay for the factory slow Chevy, Ford and Dodge diesel trucks when they can have the much "faster" gas V8s?

Obviously, your pickup is only used to catch grocerys and race Hondas. Theres some people that actually want to work their trucks and have their trucks return some great fuel mileage. I own a V6 FJ Cruiser, and yes its pretty fast for what it is but gas mileage is hideous.

If I want fast, I already have 2 Toyota turbocharged Cressidas and a Supra that'll shred your Tacoma in pieces. So the next time you argue something, you think before you say. Not all people want what you want.

The question: Is the Tacoma better than the Hilux?

The answer: Tacoma has some sort of fake cost cutting composite plastic junk bed, a crappy aluminum foil tailgate, auto acceleration mode.

The Hilux, fully boxed beefy frame, a real bed, a diesel engine, gutsy drive train.

Hilux > Tacoma

100$ GUY
11-03-2007, 09:57 PM
First off, your an idiot. Not everyone wants a gas engine. How come that wont penetrate through your thick skull? I am middle eastern, and I do own a V6 4Runner in the middle east, and yes i've driven a diesel powered Hilux top of the line side by side with the V6. The diesel is the torque monster. The gas engine requires to rev up hills to get it going, the diesel idles all the way to the top.

If gas > diesel engines, you think Americans would pay for the factory slow Chevy, Ford and Dodge diesel trucks when they can have the much "faster" gas V8s?

Obviously, your pickup is only used to catch grocerys and race Hondas. Theres some people that actually want to work their trucks and have their trucks return some great fuel mileage. I own a V6 FJ Cruiser, and yes its pretty fast for what it is but gas mileage is hideous.

If I want fast, I already have 2 Toyota turbocharged Cressidas and a Supra that'll shred your Tacoma in pieces. So the next time you argue something, you think before you say. Not all people want what you want.

The question: Is the Tacoma better than the Hilux?

The answer: Tacoma has some sort of fake cost cutting composite plastic junk bed, a crappy aluminum foil tailgate, auto acceleration mode.

The Hilux, fully boxed beefy frame, a real bed, a diesel engine, gutsy drive train.

Hilux > Tacoma

First off, youre an ASSHOLE.

Again, all the talking about diesel vrs gasoline, that aint what this thread is about, idiot. Whatever I want, you dont have to care, whatever u want, I dont care, havent u got that already?

Again, this thread is not sports cars versus pickuptrucks, damn u are so lame, they are in different categories, of course a sport car has to go fast , isnt all that car is about? If you want to race a pickup with a race car, ok so be it. Of course everybody knows that means absolutely nothing.

Obviously u dont have to care whatever I do with my cars nor I will explain, cause u dont have to care, the same I dont care about whatever u do.

What I find so funny is this, so u own piece of crap gasoline engines , V6, the same that are in the tacoma, so Im sorry for u man, u have to be very dissapointed. Too bad u have only driven a Hilux, u dont own one, again, very sorry for u, life is hard right?

Composite bed is great, the tailgate has been adressed already, and whats with the auto acceleration mode?

U say, diesel engine, again, who cares, everyone is happy with whatever engine they choose. I mean, if I have to say, hey yeah, that car has that stuff great, then Ill say it, but aint that way.

U say the hilux is a diesel monster, ok lets check out the specs from the top of the line 3.0 turbo diesel (the 2.5 already sucks that much is better not to even mention it)

3.0L has 171 hp and 343 Nm ( 252 lb-ft) and the tacoma has 236 hp and 266 lb-ft of torque....mmmmmmm who is the torque monster??

Again, lets be happy this way, me, with the tacoma I own, and you, whenever u can borrow a Hilux. Got it bro? Thats what I call a happy ending.

humanoid
11-04-2007, 12:25 AM
CACressida and 100$ GUY, any more outbursts/flaming from either of you will incur a 1 week ban from TN. Ease up... count to 10 and take deep breaths, c'mon guys, this is just the internet.

If you guys want to argue some more or flame each other more then feel free, but do it via PMs please and off the public boards. This site does not tolerate these things as specified in forum rules which you should have read when you signed up.

100$ GUY
11-04-2007, 11:04 AM
CACressida and 100$ GUY, any more outbursts/flaming from either of you will incur a 1 week ban from TN. Ease up... count to 10 and take deep breaths, c'mon guys, this is just the internet.

If you guys want to argue some more or flame each other more then feel free, but do it via PMs please and off the public boards. This site does not tolerate these things as specified in forum rules which you should have read when you signed up.

Hey humanoid, I totally agree with ya. But I just respond the same way he did, cause he couldnt just argue in a nice way, had to go personal, anyway, thats why I proposed the happy ending, hehe. :thumbup: