The end is nigh? Camry outsold Silverado in April, gunning for F-Series

Could the reign of Ford's F-Series atop the sales charts in the U.S. come to an end? Some believe that it could indeed happen, and it's not even another pickup truck ... it's the Toyota Camry. ...The Camry already posted better sales numbers than the Chevy Silverado, the perennial second-best seller to the F-Series, for the month of April. In fact, the Silverado suffered a sales drop of 24.7 percent to 37,231 units while the Camry grabbed 40,016 sales in the same month. Still, even after the Camry's great sales month, the Silverado holds the edge when the entire year-to-date sales numbers are compiled, and the F Series still sits atop the list for now.Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/19/the-end-is-nigh-camry-outsold-silverado-in-april-gunning-for/

The shift away from fuel heavy SUV and pickups is taking its toll on even America’s top selling Ford F-150 and Chevrolet Silverado, with dealers groups revealing the Toyota Camry – the nation’s best-selling passenger car – is poised to take the number one overall spot if the current situation continues.

For the month of April, the Camry overtook the Chevrolet Silverado to move into second place for the first time in a year and is edging closer to the Ford F-150. ...Camry has been the top selling passenger car in the U.S. for ten out of the past 11 years but until recently the gap between it and the F-150 and Silverado was so wide that no one predicted the pickups could be knocked from their perch...Source: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/sedans/toyota-camry-could-overtake-ford-f-150-as-us-top-seller/

It only makes sense. I do feel that if current trends continue, camry sales will eventuelly slide and a compact will take it's place, most likely the Corolla. Some analysts are talking $5-6/gal over the next year or two. That's worst case. I still think the reign of the pick-up is over, at least until they're affordable to drive again (smaller sizes? different fuels? electric? etc?) They'll never go away, but they will need to "adapt."

agreed with silveradotacoma
the truck market will need to come up to speed with the rising fuel costs before they begin to regain any sort of steady sales

It only makes sense. I do feel that if current trends continue, camry sales will eventuelly slide and a compact will take it's place, most likely the Corolla. Some analysts are talking $5-6/gal over the next year or two. That's worst case. I still think the reign of the pick-up is over, at least until they're affordable to drive again (smaller sizes? different fuels? electric? etc?) They'll never go away, but they will need to "adapt."


How are the compact pickup trucks doing?


I mean on the west coast, we have those tiny kei car pickups (you know.. those with < 1.0 litre and < 67hp) and small companies have been utilising them instead of regular sized NA pickup trucks for stuff like gardening or lawn care and other similar small businesses.

How are the compact pickup trucks doing?


I mean on the west coast, we have those tiny kei car pickups (you know.. those with < 1.0 litre and < 67hp) and small companies have been utilising them instead of regular sized NA pickup trucks for stuff like gardening or lawn care and other similar small businesses.

I think the ranger and the tacoma are the only trucks selling now, but with $4.00 a gallon soon, I do not see that sustaining.

It only makes sense. I do feel that if current trends continue, camry sales will eventuelly slide and a compact will take it's place, most likely the Corolla. Some analysts are talking $5-6/gal over the next year or two. That's worst case. I still think the reign of the pick-up is over, at least until they're affordable to drive again (smaller sizes? different fuels? electric? etc?) They'll never go away, but they will need to "adapt."

agreed with silveradotacoma
the truck market will need to come up to speed with the rising fuel costs before they begin to regain any sort of steady sales

How are the compact pickup trucks doing?


I mean on the west coast, we have those tiny kei car pickups (you know.. those with < 1.0 litre and < 67hp) and small companies have been utilising them instead of regular sized NA pickup trucks for stuff like gardening or lawn care and other similar small businesses.

I think the reign of the full-size pickup truck as a personal vehicle is coming to an end, but I think that there will always be a need for the full-size pickup truck as a work truck, especially where towing is a necessity, or doubling as a winter snow-plow.

Those companies that can, will start to look for, and switch to, smaller trucks, including mid-size (Tacoma), compact (Ranger) and kei-car pickups (although I don't see the lawn care/winter maintenance companies doing that in the rest of Canada where great winter snowfalls are expected). Note, though, that the Ranger will soon be gone, perhaps to be replaced sometime in the next few years with a F-150-related F-100 pickup truck. But will the F-100 be a compact pickup or a larger, mid-size pickup?

Those who were using the full-size pickup truck as a personal vehicle will probably switch to crossovers such as the Edge, Murano, Pilot, or Highlander; or mid-size vehicles such as the Camry, Accord or Malibu. I doubt there will be a direct jump down to compact cars such as the Corolla, unless gas prices go up much more quickly than expected. That would be just too much interior space given up too quickly.

I think the reign of the full-size pickup truck as a personal vehicle is coming to an end, but I think that there will always be a need for the full-size pickup truck as a work truck, especially where towing is a necessity, or doubling as a winter snow-plow.

Very good point.

I'm glad people are finally starting to get it that gas prices are not going down anytime soon, and there are better solutions. Not too shocking though, even though the Camry is already 2 years old and most would've thought the sales would be going down, not up.

I'm glad people are finally starting to get it that gas prices are not going down anytime soon, and there are better solutions. Not too shocking though, even though the Camry is already 2 years old and most would've thought the sales would be going down, not up.

That just shows how good the Camry is at meeting the needs and wants of Americans; it may not have the BEST features (Hyundai Sonata is cheaper with more features for the dollar, and Honda Accord is sportier, for instance), but it has the best COMBINATION of features.

I think the ranger and the tacoma are the only trucks selling now, but with $4.00 a gallon soon, I do not see that sustaining.

ahh I see. Why not? If people need a pickup truck (and not those HD ones), then these are the most logical choices.

I think the reign of the full-size pickup truck as a personal vehicle is coming to an end, but I think that there will always be a need for the full-size pickup truck as a work truck, especially where towing is a necessity, or doubling as a winter snow-plow.

Those companies that can, will start to look for, and switch to, smaller trucks, including mid-size (Tacoma), compact (Ranger) and kei-car pickups (although I don't see the lawn care/winter maintenance companies doing that in the rest of Canada where great winter snowfalls are expected).

Good point.

That's why I like the west coast. We can experiment with things the rest of Canada can't :D

ahh I see. Why not? If people need a pickup truck (and not those HD ones), then these are the most logical choices.



Good point.

That's why I like the west coast. We can experiment with things the rest of Canada can't :D

I think in the coming years, the only people who actually need trucks will be contractors and the like, not people who need to get from point A to point B with out hauling stuff. SUVs will be dead in the coming years. I cannot believe the amount of pickup trucks on the road that are hauling nothing but the driver. If people want to haul stuff, they can rent a truck at home depot or lowes for much cheaper.

I cannot believe the amount of pickup trucks on the road that are hauling nothing but the driver. If people want to haul stuff, they can rent a truck at home depot or lowes for much cheaper.


Yeah, but that would be "un-American":lol::lol::lol::lol::thumbup:

Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/19/the-end-is-nigh-camry-outsold-silverado-in-april-gunning-for/

Source: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/sedans/toyota-camry-could-overtake-ford-f-150-as-us-top-seller/


...Camry has been the top selling passenger car in the U.S. for ten out of the past 11 years

Which year wasnt the top selling car and which car took the honors?

It only makes sense. I do feel that if current trends continue, camry sales will eventuelly slide and a compact will take it's place, most likely the Corolla. Some analysts are talking $5-6/gal over the next year or two. That's worst case. I still think the reign of the pick-up is over, at least until they're affordable to drive again (smaller sizes? different fuels? electric? etc?) They'll never go away, but they will need to "adapt."

Yeah, I think so too.

Wonder if by adapting toyota see the A-BAT concept...

I think in the coming years, the only people who actually need trucks will be contractors and the like, not people who need to get from point A to point B with out hauling stuff. SUVs will be dead in the coming years. I cannot believe the amount of pickup trucks on the road that are hauling nothing but the driver. If people want to haul stuff, they can rent a truck at home depot or lowes for much cheaper.

That has always been the case and will be for the next years.
The key word is necessity.
And u forget one thing, rich people. Rich people can buy whatever they want to , not only for the need.

...Camry has been the top selling passenger car in the U.S. for ten out of the past 11 years

Which year wasnt the top selling car and which car took the honors?
I believe it's 2001 when the Taurus got it back for a year.

I believe it's 2001 when the Taurus got it back for a year.

Actually it was the Honda Accord. The Camry was #2 that year.:)

Actually it was the Honda Accord. The Camry was #2 that year.:)

That was prior to a model change (from Gen4 to Gen5). If I remember correctly, Toyota did not (or could not) build enough Gen4 models as they were changing over to producing the Gen5. Lesson learned...

Actually it was the Honda Accord. The Camry was #2 that year.:)
ohh? oops. Thanks for the correction!

ohh? oops. Thanks for the correction!


At least u tried! :D