2010 Sienna Spy Shots

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=131087#2
Idk, it looks the same to me... New engine maybe?

Well i guess it is, it says a 3.5 V6, FF or AWD, 7 or 8 Passenger seating, i would say thats either new or some updates.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=131087#2
Idk, it looks the same to me... New engine maybe?

Well i guess it is, it says a 3.5 V6, FF or AWD, 7 or 8 Passenger seating, i would say thats either new or some updates.

Edmunds is describing the model that is currently available on sale.

The current model comes standard with a 266-horsepower 3.5-liter V6 and front- or all-wheel drive in seven- and eight-passenger configurations.They have no idea what the next-generation model will be like.

For early on-road testing of new models, Toyota tends to use the old body as a test mule, and that looks like what Toyota did here. You have to look carefully to see if there any changes to the body of the test mule to speculate what changes there will be from the old to the new.

I am no expert at this, so don't quote me on what follows...

At the front, the hood seems ill-fitting and seems to sit higher. The fenders don't fit well either, looking like they may stick out somewhat from the body of the test mule. That MAY suggest a higher front part of the hood (like on the new Chrysler minivans), likely to meet new pedestrian-safety regulations; and the wider fenders may suggest a wider front track.

There is a lot of tape on the back end, especially between the rear wheel well and the rear bumper, and it does seem to bulge out a bit. There is also that bulge in both rear sliding doors. That may suggest that there will be less tumblehome (the body sides will taper in less at the bottom). Perhaps the next-generation Sienna will be more slab-sided -- like the current Honda Odyssey -- and have less barrel-shaped sides.

Of course, this is all speculation, and we won't know what the next-generation Sienna will be like, for another few months at least.

Like Sulu said this is a test mule. So they might have the next generations powertrain and engine and suspension setup but use an old body? Anyway it just a test mule and doesn't really reflect what the final product will look like. My guess it will come out late next year as a 2010 model. :thumbsup:

I think Toyota is also this time around going to adapt the car to handle a hybrid powertrain.

I'd almost be willing to bet they are gonna put some bubble stick out lights on the back. Seems like that's all toyota's new designs.

I'm noticing a pattern here. Toyota's using a white mule when it was to test out specific areas of a vehicle. For example, the white Prius mule that only had the front end masked. It looked like Toyota was testing a new headlight system (with projectors) but the latest shot of the Prius (the black one) doesn't appear to have projectors.


Ditto with this Sienna mule. Look at the headlights, they're different. Toyota's testing specific things and not bigger items like suspension or handling.

Well, that might be right. They did the same thing with the Prius. The first spyshots we got, nothing but the front was changed. And then as time went on, they changed more things...This seems great

what ever it will look like, I hope they keep the nice-looking hubcaps....

its a test mule...
im sure the new sienna will be quite impressive....its currently a battle royale between the sienna and odyssey for the minivan top seat...im ready to see the new sienna beat up on honda's crap.

http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/blogs/marty_blog/2010/spy-shots-2010-toyota-sienna/
More Shots

The hood does seem a bit longer though

Love the alloys.

Does it look taller to anyone? I don't know if it's because the pictures are skewed or if the van is actually taller.

The new Sienna will use a mildly modified version of its existing platform that it shares with the Toyota Camry, the overall size of the model will grow slightly allowing a little extra space for passengers and cargo. No details about the engine lineup can be confirmed but it is believed the 266-horsepower 3.5-liter V6 from the current model will continue to be used with a strong possibility of a hybrid being offered in 2012 or 2013.Source: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080828.003/2010-toyota-sienna-spy-photos

I wonder when automakers will start to decide that enough is enough and large is too large? But I suppose with the current generation Chrysler minivans growing in size from the last generation, that Toyota would do the same.

I hope that the hybrid comes sooner rather than later.

Source: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080828.003/2010-toyota-sienna-spy-photos

I wonder when automakers will start to decide that enough is enough and large is too large? But I suppose with the current generation Chrysler minivans growing in size from the last generation, that Toyota would do the same.

I hope that the hybrid comes sooner rather than later.

I'm not surprised the new Sienna will be slighty larger. I'm guessing it'll contribute more room for the third row. The third row of the current Sienna isn't as roomy as the previous generation Grand Caravan's before they added the fold flat seats.


http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_toyota.html

I'm guessing this indicates that the new Sienna will come as early as January.

I'm not surprised the new Sienna will be slighty larger. I'm guessing it'll contribute more room for the third row. The third row of the current Sienna isn't as roomy as the previous generation Grand Caravan's before they added the fold flat seats.


http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_toyota.html

I'm guessing this indicates that the new Sienna will come as early as January.
Interesting... So the 2010 Sienna is coming in early 2009? That could mean that the new generation is coming in January/February 2009, but I think that it means that the following:
The 2009 model year is short (July 2008 to January 2009)
The 2010 model year comes early (January/February 2009) and runs a full year, to early 2010.
The Gen3 Sienna will be introduced in early 2010 as a 2011 model.Toyota has been doing a lot of this early model year introductions recently: 2006 Avalon in early 2005; 2007 Camry in early 2006; 2009 Corolla in early 2008.

I base this speculation upon the fact that we have not heard more rumours about the next-generation model, and have not seen more test models of the Gen3 Sienna, including highly camouflaged models. Even Toyota cannot be that good at hiding prototypes of new models.

Interesting... So the 2010 Sienna is coming in early 2009? That could mean that the new generation is coming in January/February 2009, but I think that it means that the following:
The 2009 model year is short (July 2008 to January 2009)
The 2010 model year comes early (January/February 2009) and runs a full year, to early 2010.
The Gen3 Sienna will be introduced in early 2010 as a 2011 model.Toyota has been doing a lot of this early model year introductions recently: 2006 Avalon in early 2005; 2007 Camry in early 2006; 2009 Corolla in early 2008.

I base this speculation upon the fact that we have not heard more rumours about the next-generation model, and have not seen more test models of the Gen3 Sienna, including highly camouflaged models. Even Toyota cannot be that good at hiding prototypes of new models.

Actually the current Avalon came out in 2005 as a 2005 model. Maybe this will follow what the Avalon did or maybe it could be like you guessed arriving as a 2011 model. Oh yea also the link confirms the 2010 Camry coming as early as February. I wonder if there will be facelifted Camrys testing. There seems to be a Camry testing alongside that Sienna.

Sulu:

Yes they have been bringing out the key new models in Feb / Mar for sveral years now. The reason is that the key 'shopping/buying' season runs from March to mid-Sept. This is when the bulk of the new cars are purchased. It makes sense to bring out the best offerings - all fresh and shiny - when the public hits the lots.

The Gen2 Sienna arrived early also in Mar/Apr 2003.

Next Spring should be something...
Updated Camry w/ the 2AR
New 2.7L Venza
New 2.7L Highlander
Gen 3 Prius
Gen 3 Sienna

It allows the vehicles that they want to spotlight to be alone in the auto world. There's too much new arriving from all makers in the Aug-Oct time frame. The vehicles being highlighted in this time are the higher volume ones as well.
Corolla
Camry
Prius
Sienna
Tundra ( they wish )

I know that they mentioned that there could be a hybrid system but I wonder if they will offer the new 2.7ltr in the Sienna? Makes sense.

What is wrong with you guys?

This vehicle looks exactly like the current one.

I think this is not the next gen Sienna.

I know that they mentioned that there could be a hybrid system but I wonder if they will offer the new 2.7ltr in the Sienna? Makes sense.

I don't think a 4-cylinder engine would make much sense in a 2+ ton vehicle like the Sienna (I don't agree with it in the Highlander, either). :thumbsdow

I know that they mentioned that there could be a hybrid system but I wonder if they will offer the new 2.7ltr in the Sienna? Makes sense.

I don't think a 4-cylinder engine would make much sense in a 2+ ton vehicle like the Sienna (I don't agree with it in the Highlander, either). :thumbsdow
At first I thought that the Sienna would be too heavy for the 2.7-litre I4, but it seems to be about the same weight as the Highlander, so if it fits in the Highlander, it should fit for the Sienna also.

And considering that a minivan is a hockey mom's family vehicle, it does not need to be terribly quick to accelerate, nor be able to drive that fast, so a strong 4-cylinder engine may be a good option for the Sienna.

OOOOOH! A new minivan. I'm trying to contain the excitement! :slap::wiggle::banana:

OOOOOH! A new minivan. I'm trying to contain the excitement! :slap::wiggle::banana:

A minivan is a much more practical and efficient vehicle at carrying a large number of passengers and their luggage than a pickup truck, a truck-based SUV, a car-based SUV or a crossover vehicle. This current era of minivans has greatly improved over the last era, which ended with the Gen1 Sienna: the fold-into-rear-well 3rd-row seat means that when cargo room is required, the heavy seat does not have to be removed and a space found to store it; and when it is up, it still provides for a fair amount of cargo room in addition to the 7 or 8 passengers.

The current crop of large, crossover SUVs available from GM and Ford, meant to replace the minivan, do not come close to the efficiency and practicality of the minivan. The GM Lambda quadruplets (Chevrolet Traverse, Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia and Saturn Outlook) do not come close; they are still large SUVs in drag, better as modern, car-based replacements for the Suburban et.al. than as true replacements for the minivan. Ford's Taurus X and Flex come closer, with their fold-into-rear-well 3rd-row seat that provides for both large passenger and luggage capacity, but they are closer to large station wagons than true minivans.

A minivan is such a practical vehicle that the Dodge Caravan has been one of the best-selling vehicles in Canada for quite a number of years, right up there with the Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla and Mazda3. It is the overly fashion-conscious and insecure Americans who have made the minivan into the pariah that it currently is.

The minivan truly is the ideal successor to the station wagon. (And don't tell me that a station wagon is not a good vehicle. What is a SUV or a crossover? They are nothing more than station wagons on steroids, and only insecure people need to rely on steroids.)

Well put Sulu... But unwind a little bit. It was a satirical comment. Of course there is a place for the minivan. There wouldn't be millions of them in the US, Japan, and Europe if not. (notice the dancing banana?)

My sister has a Sienna, (I have a kid Sienna, lol) it is affordable, decent looking and packs the kids in. But, off the top of my head I do not know the dimensions, it "feels" bigger than my Tundra...the turning radius is bad and the rear end seems to go on forever.

it is affordable, decent looking and packs the kids in. But, off the top of my head I do not know the dimensions, it "feels" bigger than my Tundra...the turning radius is bad and the rear end seems to go on forever.


You're still talking about the Sienna van right?:lol::lol::lol::lol::thumbsup:

^ lol