Scion tC with a Supercharged V6

Hey Toyota makes a supercharger for the 6 cylinder 1MZ-FE. The tC uses a Camry 4 cylinder. Camrys can fit a V6. So how about a 3.0 V6 S/C tC? 325HP in a tC sounds like fun to me!

Agreed.

yeah, i thought about this too, but we obviously won't know until it's out. It looks like it would have enough clearance though, not sure about hood clearance after SC though. that'd be pretty sweet though.


hmmmmm...but they don't have any cars with a 1mz and stick, right now. i think u'd hafta use the ECU off an older non-vvti 1mz.

f-dat. 3MZ w/custom boost and exhaust :thumbup: :thumbup:

Sure B Duece, but who wants tw spend twice what the car costs on "custom". May as well take the $60K and buy a Factory hot rod.

Hotness Factor.

has anyone thought of a single 1MZ vvt-i that has a stick? i still can't think of any.

btw, does the 1AZ have the same mounting points as teh 1AZ? if so, i wonder if u could run a 2ZZ in there:naughty:

why not use the auto\manual tranny they come with now?

Oh but the 1MZ does come in manual, just not here :( ....

http://www.camry.toyota.com.au/Camry03/InDetail/Specifications/1,1289,205---229^155,00.html

E153, I think Ratko has that Tranny...;)

Wah, I'm sorry that 1MZ doesn't have VVT-i

i thought some of the later 1mz's had vvti...

also, i have that manual tranny on the 1mz... and many camrys 97+ and solaras with 1mz's have standards...

I guess the Ausies don't get the 1MZ with the VVT-i

Originally posted by Zoni_Camry
i thought some of the later 1mz's had vvti...

also, i have that manual tranny on the 1mz... and many camrys 97+ and solaras with 1mz's have standards...


yes, i realize that gen 4 camry's had manuals with the 1mz, and that some 1mz's had vvti, but there were no vvti'd 1mz's with manuals. lol. cuz the only 1mz's with vvti were in siennas, avalons, and gen5 camry's as far as i can think of. i guess u could do a manual conversion, but it might not be perfect then, as far as the ECU is concerned.

i just did a manual conversion with a 1mz... it is perfect... the ecu puts up codes for missing shift solenoids. thats it. otherwise, the engine and tranny work perfectly together. and there is much more power :) more tire spins and chirps :)

A check engine light is not a minor problem, though I have seen people install resistors in place to the transmission shift solenoids to prevent that. Can you change to a manual car ECU?

i doubt u could change to a manual ecu because i doubt it would control teh vvti function

in my case, the 94-96 1mz camry didnt come in a manual version...

super solara, the check engine light IS a MINOR problem in this situation... it isnt harming the car in any way... its just cosmetic. it looks bad.

and yes, ratko installed some resistors to replace the shift solenoids...

Well, perhaps a check engine light is not a problem in your area, in ours, a check engine light will cause a car to fail emissions testing. Additionally, should the check engine light be always on, if another problem should occur, you will have no way of knowing. And it looks bad.

what SuperSolara jsut said is what bothers me. if u happen to get a different CEL, u won't know, because the CEL is already on.

thats what im worried about at this present time...

I realize that this has turned into a 1MZ-FE discussion, but the tC is gonna come with a 2.4L Inline 4 Cyl. w/ VVT-i. At least in all the info that I've seen.

read the post noob, he said he wants to engine swap...

yes, we all know it's coming with the 2AZ kiddo. next time try reading sport

Originally posted by Zoni_Camry
read the post noob, he said he wants to engine swap...

It doesn't say a damned thing about a swap, jack ass. I maybe a n00b here, but I can still READ!!. :hammer:

But anyways, why not go 1G-GTE, if you want to swap in a boosted V6.

Because the boosted V6 would be easier.

in the first post it reads...

Hey Toyota makes a supercharger for the 6 cylinder 1MZ-FE. The tC uses a Camry 4 cylinder. Camrys can fit a V6. So how about a 3.0 V6 S/C tC?

lemme translate for the noob ass... the camry and the scion tC us the same 4 cylinder engine... the camry offers a v6 and a supercharger for that v6... the scion doe not. what are your(TN members') thoughts about putting a 1mz-fe 3.0L with a supercharger into a scion tC...

In your future, you will come across many situations where a statement might seem completely ambiguous. In these such instances, you may need to use some ingenuity and common sense to see the true meaning behind it.

Originally posted by DJ_SpaRky
It doesn't say a damned thing about a swap, jack ass. I maybe a n00b here, but I can still READ!!. :hammer:

But anyways, why not go 1G-GTE, if you want to swap in a boosted V6.


plus the 1G-GTE is inline. We're not even sure a small 3L V6 is gonna fit, let alone an inline 6 with a turbine strapped to it :lol: Plus, the mounts are the same for the AZ and the MZ, it's highly doubtful the mounts are the same for the AZ and G:disappoin

Word, muh bads :hammer: , I was always told the 1G was 6 cyl & a V, prolly by someone who assumed that it was, but I looked it up & it's an L6.

As far as the first post, I didn't read that out of what was said only from the other posts, but they all seemed to be just info about the 1MZ.

In responce to the first post, that would be nice, but it'd prolly mess with the weight ratios, front-back & side-side. IMO, a 3S-GTE or a 4A 20V, would prolly be a better swap, a little more work, but a better outcome.

the 1mz is only SLIGHTLY heavier than the 4cylinders... keep in mind, it is all aluminum.

and by L6 im sure you mean I6... ill let that one go. :)

also, 3sgte is like 165-240hp stock, depending on what model you get. the 1mz is a good 185hp NA... adding a turbo to that you will get almost 300hp with low boost. stock engine.

Word, it was just an thing to think about.

Also I meant L6, Linear 6 aka Inline or I6.

Stock, if you have money to do a swap, then you have money to put into an engine, a 3S will get up to like 350hp pretty easily, but that's just me. If you're trying to save money, and don't care about anything over 300hp, then have at it.


What kinda turbo are we talking CT20?? T28?? :confused:

Sorry, I didn't mean to cause any controversy and name calling when I suggested installing a supercharged 1MZFE in the tC. It seems to me to be do-able though I haven't had a tC in front of me yet to measure up, because as was pointed out, the 1MZ is only very slightly heavier all aluminum, and motor mounts are the same place, and it sits in the same space as the 4 cylinder on other applications. Any in-line 6 is going to be too long and too heavy, even if there is more performance potential. But the SuperSolara's 1MZ-Fe with automatic puts down 275hp at the wheels, with lots of torque, and the S/C fits under the stock hood in the same place as the standard upper intake manifold. So it would seem to be an easy bolt in and would be a real performer. The biggest problem, like with the Solara is getting the power to the ground without massive amounts of smoke.

One other thing I would like to point out is that just because someone is a noob to this forum, doesn't mean they are new to what it might take to do this swap. I have been repairing cars and swapping motors for more than 30 years. We should all just try to get along.

Here Here.

Nice Jim, only a few of us on TN have swapped motors. if you do decide to do this swap, keep me informed, i would love to hear how it turns out...

Hey you guys sure that the motor mounts in the 2AZ and 1MZ are the same for the Gen 5?

Originally posted by SuperSolara
Sure B Duece, but who wants tw spend twice what the car costs on "custom". May as well take the $60K and buy a Factory hot rod.

$19k for the car, $1500 for the engine, $800 for the tranny, $1000 for custom ECU, and equipment to swap the block in, DIY maybe $500 - $900 (if custom mounts are necessary), and since the boost system would be custom, it would cost near $10k total. and the other $30k would be spent on my IS300, or getting out of debt.

But its all just random thoughts about making a possibly good car great+++. It's not worth it since the cost for doing so would be a helluva lot.

where are you getting these figures...?
custom ECU????? you just would use the 1mz ecu, and splice all the wiring to that ecu. no turbo system is gonna cost over 10k for this engine... 3000 for a good, intercooled turbo system at most.

it would defnitely be a good project for someone to have fun with... not me, cause i dont have a scion, or the money for it, but it'd be fun i think...

^^not if I'm putting in a 3MZ. The total cost of all parts (internals, which I left out after deleting parts of my post, boost system, etc) and mounting/fabrication would be around $10k at most. Sorry if I wasn't clear on my estimate.

1500 for the 3MZ? sounds really cheap, where are u getting the figure for that?

ok ok... im done with this thread...

Originally posted by VVT-i Owns
Hey you guys sure that the motor mounts in the 2AZ and 1MZ are the same for the Gen 5?

The 3sgte motor and the 5s motor were used in 1990-1993 celica's using the same motot mounts. Later the 5s was also used in camry's. Just because its the option motors (this or that) it doesn't mean it will fit smoothly (sighting example from 3s conversation on camrys).

Coming back to the topid: Any conversion is doable if the mulla is there..the toughness/easyness...depends on what uniqueness u are looking for!

no the motor mounts will not be the same, at all... but they will be in the same spot, so you can easily fab some mounts and they will work well in that spot...

Originally posted by 02RSX90camry
1500 for the 3MZ? sounds really cheap, where are u getting the figure for that?

Engine pickup from a junkyard, or an insurance auction (that was the price last time I checked a wrecked 03 SE out.)

Originally posted by Zoni_Camry
the 1mz is only SLIGHTLY heavier than the 4cylinders... keep in mind, it is all aluminum.

and by L6 im sure you mean I6... ill let that one go. :)

also, 3sgte is like 165-240hp stock, depending on what model you get. the 1mz is a good 185hp NA... adding a turbo to that you will get almost 300hp with low boost. stock engine.

When has a 3S-GTE ever put out 165hp? That one baffles me... I have never seen one under 200hp.

1st gen, 165
2nd gen, 185
3rd gen 225
as far as i know... :) i could be wrong.

Ya....

1st gen: 200hp
2nd gen: 225hp
3rd gen: 240 w/ VVTi

Or close to those numbers... thats for the MR2 anyways.

JDM in a GT-Four did 245-250 depending on the years, jdm mr2 did 225-240 over the 7 years they sold it there.

yeah i think you are thinking of JDM

i know i was wrong before, but what it should be is...
1st gen 185hp
2nd gen 225hp
3rd gen 245-255hp
4th gen (toyota caldina JDM) 260hp VVTi

Ya I suppose so... but thats what mine is so :)'s for miles! Now I just have to get around stupid California emmissions laws.

Supposedly TRD is already working to put the V6 Camry engine in the tC with a supercharger.
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