earn a free exhaust by letting us use your car to prototype

matrixtuner
05-10-2002, 05:18 PM
I'm manufacturing a new exhaust and some other parts for the Matrix Base model or XR. I need to borrow a car for two days to make the prototype exhaust. Your car will not be driven and this will only take a few hours of your time. If interested you can call me 949-854-6215 or just send me an e-mail at newport5@hotmail.com thanks peace

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RAAMaudio
05-11-2002, 02:07 AM
Just sent you an email!

AzimuthX
05-11-2002, 10:32 AM
It'll only take few hours but you need to borrow the car for two days? :wink:

matrixtuner
05-11-2002, 12:39 PM
Sorry if I wasn't too clear. The owner would need to be present so we won't need to drive the car. The first day is to build a prototype, this takes only a few hours and then another hour or so to show it to some people from Toyota. After this the exhaaust will be taken back to tool up the jigs for manufacturing. The owner will return for test fit and final installation one more time on another date. Thanks!

FoOLiO-MatriX
05-11-2002, 01:38 PM
and for what company is dis for? if its alrite to ask? i might be interested..


Hey RAAM how did the turbo go?

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matrixtuner
05-11-2002, 01:40 PM
The exhaust is being made for Toyota.

mistamatrix
05-11-2002, 03:21 PM
On 2002-05-11 14:40, matrixtuner wrote:
The exhaust is being made for Toyota.

Is the muffler going to be for performance or replacement type?

matrixtuner
05-12-2002, 12:15 AM
The muffler is going to be a performance type. Straight through Stainless or carbon canister (both types will be available per buyer's choice). The system will run in a different path than the current system but will be a bolt-in. The first one will be for the base model then we'll do one for the XRS.

lunar916
05-13-2002, 11:05 AM
made for toyota as in for toyota car? or for TMMC?
i didn't know TMMC look for outside supplier for perfomace muffler... and why wouldn't they eng and test it using there own car?
anyhow... would it be a loud muffler??

matrixtuner
05-13-2002, 05:42 PM
I'm not familiar with TMMC, I don't know who that is. Our design company is adressing the needs of several companies, one is Toyota. The exhaust will be available at selected dealerships and retail outlets. You'll be able to buy the Matrix with the exhaust on it or from the parts department. As far as the sound we'll have information on that when the design is finalized. One of the guidelines is the California noise limit. It would have to be less than the levels prescribed by law. The other is that they want something that gives a deep tone. Other than that I'm not sure until tomorrow when we do the first one, and only after it's approved will I know for sure.
Thanks for all of your interest and and all the support and assistance I've gotten so far from all of you. I look forward to posting more information and possibly pictures soon.

FoOLiO-MatriX
05-13-2002, 07:10 PM
So pretty much you already found your prototype car? yet?

matrixtuner
05-14-2002, 02:06 AM
Yes we have one for tuesday so it looks like we're ok for this week. I'll let you all know how it works out. Thanks!

mistamatrix
05-14-2002, 08:49 AM
On 2002-05-13 12:05, lunar916 wrote:
made for toyota as in for toyota car?

I was wondering about this as well.
There's already an existing TRD muffler for the Matrix. I guess Toyota wants the consumer to have a variety to choose from.

lunar916
05-14-2002, 09:33 AM
TMMC is the toyota manufacturing plant located in cambridge.
it is the place where the matrices are being produced.
i'm really interested in the result of your muffler~ please do let us know~

SGS
05-14-2002, 01:04 PM
Yes me too! theother day I was looking at the muffler and was thinking on how to make it a straight exhaust! becuase the way it is right now it's pretty restrictive!

FoOLiO-MatriX
05-14-2002, 01:46 PM
the trd muffler was made only for the xrs not for xr or x so im really interested about this muffler i wonder how much will this go for

fatredcircle
05-14-2002, 01:59 PM
somethign smells fishy

Myztyk
05-14-2002, 06:33 PM
On 2002-05-14 10:33, lunar916 wrote:
TMMC is the toyota manufacturing plant located in cambridge.
it is the place where the matrices are being produced.
i'm really interested in the result of your muffler~ please do let us know~


The american Matrixes and the Vibe are being produced at the Toyota plant in Fresno(I think). It's in Cali for sure.

matrixtuner
05-14-2002, 10:04 PM
OK everybody first of all thanks for your help. I'd like to thank Rick McCallum for spending the whole day with me today tooling up on the exhaust. I've been (and will be) rather general in giving facts on this because as with any new product we want to keep some details confidential until the product is fully released and tested. The reason for my post was for help in R+D, not to sell anybody anything. We did a preliminary setup today. It is definitely not what we want and will be re-done until it's perfect. We used a straight-though Hiper-style muffler with a 4-inch tip and sound restrictor (kind of like the one you see on Apexi N1 exhausts). Unlike the stock XR and base model system, we configured the muffler in a longitudinal (front-to-back) position. The rest of the pipe comes forward and bolts onto the factory flange just above and in front of the rear axle. So far the sound is really deep and not loud or offensive. We have not removed the restritor yet. The car is noticeably faster mid-range to top end. At high revs the car does not Bleat like the stock system does (or like every Honda out there). Acceleration and deceleration sounds ecxellent. Overall we are pleased with the performance and sound but the fitment needs to be altered if the system is going to last the 3-year warranty cycle. We will have more news soon. Thanks again for everybody's help and interest.

lunar916
05-14-2002, 11:39 PM
Myztyk&gt; i know that the matrix and the vibe are designed 2gether in the state
but i'm 120% sure that the matrices are being produced at the plant in cambridge, along with corolla and solara.

Matrixtuner&gt; sound like it's going well~ hope we'll b able to see the pix~

RAAMaudio
05-15-2002, 12:12 AM
:smile: I am the lucky one that got to meet alot of very cool car enthusiasts today and now my car sounds so sweeet! I do know the product will be built exceptionally well and is not too loud at all but does sound deep, especially right off idle. At crusing speed on the freeway it is just loud enough to hear it but not offensive at all.
The finish is the best I have ever seen on a muffler. I had my buddy listen to it just a bit ago, he said it sounds like a good big bore sport bike but much better, this is coming from a guy with many years of riding them and harleys as well.
Nice to know very high quality parts are being produced for us Matrix owners!!!!!

RAAMaudio
05-15-2002, 12:16 AM
Turbo project is still in the works, waiting for the turbo to arrive so the fabrication of the manifold can start.

matrixtuner
05-18-2002, 11:10 AM
Ok everybody the exhaust prototype is complete and is now being jigged for production. Thanks again for Rick McCallum's assistance in design and testing of this system. We did some preliminary sound tests with a handheld meter that Rick uses for his audio work and the highest level recorded was 65 dB (with the restrictor in place). We plan to do more testing on an off-the-shelf model as soon as it is ready and I'll publish the results. We should have some dyno results as well. The toyota folks really liked the system and can't wait to offer it on new cars as well as in the parts department. I'll also publish the contact numbers for those of you that want to see it on a car or perhaps get one. If you are not in Southern California I will try to arrange for you to see it at your home dealer or even buy it direct. As other new products become available or we need some more help you'll hear about it here. Thanks!

RAAMaudio
05-18-2002, 11:38 AM
This is one sweet sounding and great looking exhaust system! No big fat can hanging under your car, just a very classy looking, beautiful finished system that goes exceptionally well with the theme of the car. The sound is very sweet with no resonate peak at crusing speed, very low and powerfull sounding at lower RPM's while shifting up through the gears. Very nice when you back off the throttle as well.
I really hated to take it off the car, I mis the great sound and looks, will be standing in line bugging them for mine when ready!
I can tell you, this is a class act company and product line we have coming our way. This is not hype or BS, I have been around many years, seen alot of that stuff, this is the real deal here. I am ready and willing to work with them on any new products they need me for.
By the way, expect to see my car in major auto sound and performance mags, in a high profile booth at the next CES, the Sema show, etc. I am very serious about this car and only going to deal with high caliber products and companies.

Ko_leos
05-30-2002, 06:12 PM
Cambridge produces the Corolla Matrix (Its production name).
Fresno (Not a Toyota facility) produces the Vibe.
Both facilities produce the Corolla.