'06 Toyota Supercar???

Look here (http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7633&sid=178&n=158).

yer, saw this one on the Cressida forums.

Looks appealing, reminds me of a Corvette front, with an MKIV rear :)

good nighhtttt, better start savin up

:disappoin Make a sports car that's at least affordable:mad:

I hope they have it on display at the 2005 NY International Auto Show!!! I will def get pics if it is there!

"500-hp powerplant with 370 lb-ft of torque"


wtf is that:confused: takin a page out of hondas book right there.
wouldn't any hint of hyrid have a lot of tourque because of the electric engine?
ill beleive that shit when i see it

"...with a price tag well over $100,000."

sheisse. :disappoin

Looks sick, but damn that price is :eek:

hmm.......... euro plates, similar design to the Volta....... simlar design to most euro sports cars......

I call BS and not a Toyota

I like!!! :clap: I love where the exhausts are... reminds me of the Pagani Zonda

looks good. i hope it actually is a toyota/lex. those rims are damn nice too. the price all depends on what market they're going for. as the article suggests, they might be shooting for the ford gt/ferrari 360 (er, i guess 430 now) with 500 bhp. at least toyota will have a car worthy of being called a true sports car once again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/4AaronGE/concept.jpg

my shitty artist's rendering. Without taillights. Or signal lights.

Damn that car is nice...what's with all the black covering around it though? well, 500hp:D ....well over $100,000:mad: . GOD dammit , make a car affordable shiaatt!

:disappoin


Anyways, I hope that by then time it's released, I'll become a millionaire playing the lotery. :(

...............Rich bastards..... :lol: -_-"

Why is there a liscence plate on it if it is on the race track?

who are these 'insiders' and what leads them to belive that this is a toyota and not any other car?

I call BS

Originally posted by GeRm0MR2
Damn that car is nice...what's with all the black covering around it though?

its camoflauge. they wanna test the car on an actual track but dont want people to see what it looks like. all the car companies do it

i'm actually waiting to go OH MY GOD!!!!!!!! THE NEW SUPRA!!!!!!!!!!!

lol :lol:

^ btw - i was joking :)

It actually looks like a Supra almost. I wished they brought them back to the states! :disappoin

Why couldn't it be a Toyota? With their successes in racing the past couple of years, most notably the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series and above average success in F1, why not? Besides, Toyota also vowed to go model for model against Honda ... so the only model they're missing is a limited production exotic. Maybe Toyota was jealous of the media attention to the HSC (Honda Super Car) concept ... it is nice, you know.

Jason

Toyota isn't competing against Honda anymore. They have already been beaten (and were never even a worry in Japan) Next stop...Ford or Chrysler. :D

A supercar is just gravy (two helpings please!). ;)

Looks pretty good, even undercover. I am guessing it's gonna be a Lexus (to give it a fancy name) for the LeMans.

Originally posted by 91MR2quickNA
Why couldn't it be a Toyota? With their successes in racing the past couple of years, most notably the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series and above average success in F1, why not? Besides, Toyota also vowed to go model for model against Honda ... so the only model they're missing is a limited production exotic. Maybe Toyota was jealous of the media attention to the HSC (Honda Super Car) concept ... it is nice, you know.

Jason

With the exception of the Volta, and some cars for Australia, all Toyotas are designed in either Japan or Cali and tested whereever it was designed.

Toyota's success in racing goes back way more than just a couple of years.

And Toyota just entered the Craftsman Truck Series, with only 2 wins 1 last weekend and 1 about 2 months ago.

Also with all the race series that they have been all the vehicles they have used have been shells of current or past Toyota cars or based off a designed that is used for that series, ie: F1, Indy and so forth.

Toyota has never just come up with a prototype design to just for one particular race series and the one concpet car they did come up with was for use in all open wheeled race ciruits.

Even with the supercar series that they are in running under the Lexus brand name, they are using a shell that all of the companies are using, but with tweaks by them.

Also Toyota is not going after Honda, Blue Oval is on their kill list right now as well as Dodge and Chevy, Toyota main focus is the truck market.

Well over a $100,000 grand?!?!

Naw, I want a Toyota SPorts car that I CAN AFFORD! :hammer: :mad: :D

I'm assuming this one is being tested in Japan since it's a left hand drive! It does look a lot like a Corvette from the front.

I have my fingers crossed for this one..

$100K is way too expensive. There are a lot of cars that are better for that amount of money. I wish Toyota would make a car around $30K to compete with Mustang GT's, 350z's, Neon Srt-4's, and WRX's.

Originally posted by rapsux2000
$100K is way too expensive...

If VW can sell a sedan for $80k+, Toyota can sell a $100k sportscar.

Originally posted by Sportivo Concepts
Toyota's success in racing goes back way more than just a couple of years.

And Toyota just entered the Craftsman Truck Series, with only 2 wins 1 last weekend and 1 about 2 months ago.

Also Toyota is not going after Honda, Blue Oval is on their kill list right now as well as Dodge and Chevy, Toyota main focus is the truck market.

I was just using recent entries into racing, because I know Toyota's racing history pre-dates my own birth.

Toyota competes with everyone but they have an emphasis on keeping ahead of Honda. Just go model for model on Honda's popular line up: Camry-Accord, Corolla-Civic, Sienna-Odyssey, Highlander-Pilot, Rav-4-CR-V, etc, etc. IMO, Honda has no business in trucks.

You're right, Toyota is after the whole full-sized truck market because it's lucrative. The top 3 selling vehicles are trucks from Ford, GM, and Dodge. 4th? The Camry. If Toyota can capitalize on the truck market like the mid-sized sedan market, they'd be unstoppable and pull in massive amounts of revenue.

Obviously, Toyota is the biggest and baddest of all Japanese automakers and is moving up here in the U.S. as well. Toyota already surpassed Ford and is the Number 2 automaker in the U.S. Their next target is GM and a 15% world market share from 10%.

Jason

^^Toyota is #3 in the US, ahead of Chrysler. Toyota is #2 Worldwide, behind GM.

Just out of curiosity where does Nissan and Honda fit in the ranking in U.S. market and the World Wide market?

I want a new version of a AE86 not something i need 100G's in US$...Why isn't Mr. Yota and his dumb fuckin engineers thinking bout us who are waitin for a small RWD car thats fun...

Originally posted by B Deuce
^^Toyota is #3 in the US, ahead of Chrysler. Toyota is #2 Worldwide, behind GM.

Yeah, thanks for that. I think I was tired.

Jason

Originally posted by Camryfanatic
Just out of curiosity where does Nissan and Honda fit in the ranking in U.S. market and the World Wide market?

WorldWide Numbers (can't find US numbers...yet)
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1 General Motors (group) 8.303 million Including Opel, Vauxhall, Saab, Holden etc.
2 Toyota (group) 6.768 million Including Daihatsu
3 Ford (group) 6.459 million Including Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover etc.
4 Volkswagen (group) 4.881 million Including Audi, Seat, Skoda
5 DaimlerChrysler (group) 3.995 million Including Chrysler, Mercedes & Smart
6 PSA (group) 3.013 million Including Peugeot & Citroen
7 Honda 2.904 million -
8 Nissan 2.901 million -
9 Hyundai (group) 2.777 million Including Kia
10 Renault 2.282 million -

Here's the US Sales Rankings.
US Sales Numbers 2003 (http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?srv=parser&act=display&tf=/advice/bestworst/topselling/topsellers1203.tmpl)

US Sales Numbers (as of July 2004) (http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?srv=parser&act=display&tf=/advice/bestworst/topselling/topsellers0704.tmpl)

While Toyota is 4th overall this year, they're gaining ground and beat Chrysler on the monthly total sales.

GM sells more cars than Toyota, but Toyota is worth more than all of the big 3 combined (GM, Ford, DaimlerChrysler).

Some helpful responses:

1) The car is being tested at the Nurburgring Nordschleife in Germany which is technically a one-way toll road. If run during open sessions, plates are required.

2) I do not believe the hype around a V10. The fact that there are three exhaust tips strongly suggest a twin-turbo V8 with a shared wastegate tube (a-la the F40). IF it's a Toyota that would mean the 4.3L V8 in some altered form. With turbos, 500 BHP would be easily acheivable.

-ch

Anyone interested in hearing some facts about this car?

I was in Deutschland this summer and paid a visit to nice facility situated just west of Cologne. This facility is know for creating and building excellent performance parts for Toyota's European market, they also share facilities with a certain F1 team. On my tour of said facilities we were told about a supercar being developed that would be released when their F1 team won a championship. The powertrain would be inspired by their F1 technology and probably be a V10 with over 500bhp.

The track you see it being tested on is Nurburgring. This is a private road where you can pay a toll to flog your sports car around. Many manufacturers test their prototype sports cars there because the Ring is, quite simply, the ultimate driving experience. It is 21 km long and has at least 73 bends which add up to one of the most demanding circuits in the world. It's hard to describe just how good it is until you've been there, but if you can imagine your favourite mountain road and your favourite race-track, and combine the best bits of the two, you'll get the general idea.

This car won't be for everybody, but neither is the Ford GT. Company's need to build cars like to this to keep fools like us drooling....build away.

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THANK YOU MAN....... Just THANK YOU!

Originally posted by chindo
GM sells more cars than Toyota, but Toyota is worth more than all of the big 3 combined (GM, Ford, DaimlerChrysler).

US $9 Billion profit. Makes me wish I had stock in Toyota (TM). ;)

With all respect flow's info from the Koln factory, I hope he's wrong about the release date--I think Toyota is at least 3-5 years away from a constructors championship. But the fact that there is a test mule important enough to disguise suggests a release date of late 2005.

But I'll stand by my previous statement: I do not believe that Toyota will build a V10 for a street car. The F1 programme's 3-liter experience is useless for a production lump. The only people who have done so are Porsche (the GT which borrowed the motor from the defunct Le Mans prototype programme) and BMW who actually built a V10 purely for marketing reasons. But Toyota doesn't do technology platform showcases in their sportscars the way Honda and Nissan do. That--and the photography--is why I still think a turbocharged V8 is far more likely. But only time will tell,

-ch

What is it about the photography that makes you think that a V10 is not possible? Is it because of the hood? What if the engine is placed somewhere else. I mean it could be a mid-engine car. :banger:

I'm referring to my previous post: there are three exhaust pipes. This strongly suggests either a W motor (very unlikely) or a turbocharged motor with two banks of cylinders. If you figure 120 BHP per liter, the 4.3L V8 is a near perfect fit for 500HP.

And I do believe it's mid-engine. This also matches up better with the rumor that came out of Toyota a year ago regarding a V8, mid-engine car. But rather than a revver like the Ferrari 430, they've opted for a motor with a broader torque band.

Again, this is my conjecture, but I believe it is FAR more likely than a V10 or even a 500HP hybrid in production,

-ch

That makes sense. Also they already have a 4.3L V8. I don't know the engine code but it's used in the Lexus SC430 and a few other cars and trucks in the Toyota/Lexus line up. A lot of modifications would have to be done to the engine to make it produce 500 hp but Toyota would have the engineering know how and my guess is that it would be cheper than starting from scratch.

I think more companies are starting to capitalize on their involvement in F1. I agree that it's unlikely you'll see a 3.0L V10, but M-B/Mclaren SLR as well as the new M5/M6 all run V10's. Their engines may not share a single part with the F1 engines but you can bet their marketing departments will link them. True it will take them a while to win a championship, hopefully they'll cave and give us this supercar when they finally podium...that may be a more realistic goal.

Apparently this test mule is being developed by Toyota Motorsports Gmbh. It's such a cool organization over there. F1 takes priority, but when Motorsport wanted to develop a supercharger for the 2zz they were able to use the tools and test facilities in the F1 factory. You wouln't believe some of the trick parts they were testing.

Looks good.....anything else?.. no

(U.S.A) 3UZZ-FE. 4.3L found under the hoods of the flagship LS430, mid-luxury GS430,and the bubbly but cool SC430.

:lol: I agree with rollaXRS, about Toy's rankings. Face it, the days of the Toyopet Crown are gone Toyota moving up and they're not going to let anyone get in the way.

Toyopet Crown. Flashback...gotta digup that TMS video. :D

Toyota Motorsports Gmbh...what does the Gmbh stand for or mean?

I'm still lost as to why the article stated that Toyota has been eyeing the success of the 350, and wants to compete. The problem I'm having is that if that is what they are interrested in, why is it $100+k??? :confused: $100k doesn't compete with $35k. More people can afford 35, than 100....