What do u guy's think of the XB???

What up guy's im thinking of getting a new XB, I wanna know what u guys think of them.. I currently own a 2004 Subaru WRX and will be selling it. I will be purchasing a new XB after I sell my WRX.
Can you guys please post some pic's of ur XB's...

Thanks

I hope you'll be ok with adjusting to a much slower car. The gas mileage is going to be nice compared to the WRX. But the fun to drive factor is going to go down. It is for some people the perfect car.

One thing really nice about it is the resale value. There is almost no hit on resale compared to anything else out there.


Not sure if you checked out google images but here ya go.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=scion+xB

And if you haven't stumbled across www.scionlife.com yet check it out.

I know im used to fast cars. Owned an Integra, Prelude and WRX but im over the speed. I really need to save my money and by purchasing an XB it will help me out alot since im planning to go back to school. Im sure they are gas savers.
Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks

I really wanted a WRX ... and REALLY wanted an STI ... but I hear where you are coming from.

Lots of people's first visual impression of the xB isn't usually good but I think it has more character than many cars out there. Its definately unique. I think its pretty good looking. Although its size compares to the Honda Element, i think its WAY better looking than that plastic thing. The options available for customizing are really good. I've heard its got quite a bit of space inside for holding whatever you want.

Good luck...

XB ......looks like a coffin to me...

i love my box :D so what if i get smoked by kids on bikes??? "2 miles an hour... so everybody sees you.."

and as long as you never have to sit in your own back seats, the xB is comfortable as hell. you have leg room up the yin yang back there... but the seats are really upright... like amc theater seats.

I love the xB! I'll be buying one next month for my daily driver. I have a modified RX-7 that is my toy, but it's not good for a daily. Even though I haven't bought the xB yet I'm already looking into the TRD goodies for it and I can't wait to drive it everywhere. I have a feeling that the RX-7 is going to get some much needed rest once the xB gets here!!

Zach

I still haven't got my XB. Im really interested in one but I need to sell my 04 WRX first.
Do any of you know of anyone interested in a WRX??
Let me know the sooner I get rid of the rex I will be driving an XB.

Thanks

man, if u weren't in socal, i'd be interested, my sister wants one real bad.

I love the look of the xB. I would definately get one if I had the chance.

Any scion is great if you want to save money on gas, and still look stylish. :smokin:

Although that WRX, soo sweet :thumbup:

I love my xb, pletny o' room, good gas milage, and something people in here do not mention enough TOYOTA QUALITY!! I've had 4 celicas, including one all-trac (may it rest in pieces) :( 1 supra and 1 corolla, all of which have been wonderful. You cant go wrong :) IMO it drives pretty nicely too, surprisingly enough for a rolling square.

Any scion is great if you want to save money on gas, and still look stylish. :smokin:


The tC's gas mileage isn't all that great. It uses up gas like my MR2 ...

I'd be excited about it if Scion had brought the "Open Deck" version over. As it is, the muted colors and understated styling aren't really getting me interested.

http://www.zbuffer.com/fark/2002_bb_open-deck_1.jpg

I still haven't got my XB. Im really interested in one but I need to sell my 04 WRX first.
Do any of you know of anyone interested in a WRX??
Let me know the sooner I get rid of the rex I will be driving an XB.

what the hell is wrong with you... why would you sell ur wrx and get an xb! u got issues dude

giving up WRX will be tougher than you think. :disappoin
its such a niiice car. but of course you got other issues to consider. xB <--- :thumbup: go for it dude

I'm new here and am trying to learn about the Scion from owners but...

No offense, but why is everyone so hot for the xB?

When I see it, all I can think of is, "how the F*** did it's designer NOT get fired!?!?" If I showed up to a presentation meeting with a design that basically looked like I copied it from my toddler's drawing...after having months to come up with something, ...I would definitely be fired.

I dunno,... maybe they were puffing the ganja that day..

I don't understand the practicality of producing such and un-aerodynamic design! As a graphic designer, it messes with my sensibilities. How is it efficient or economical to be pushing a "brick" through the wind instead of a football?? Granted I don't expect that every car should look a bullet or a wing, but jeezas-H-christ, WTF?!!

All the aftermaket parts on earth won't correct that...

Also, I have being hearing and reading this mantra a lot lately.. "... I'll buy _______ but I don't like ..
a. Blah-blah blah... b. Blah-blah blah... c. Blah-blah blah...

So I gonna buy this, and that, and these, and swap this and change that..." WHY?!? If I can't afford the car of my dreams, then whatever I settle for will still be close, and I will be working towards that actual dream ride rather than draining my account on the fixes for the car I "sorta" like and had to settle for...

As a fellow graphic designer I think you are full of s***. To be a successful designer you have to bend the rules and think outside the box. Who do you graphic design for anyway...Chevrolet? Scion is all about design. From the cars to the ads, even the logo. Know what you are talking about before you voice your opinion and sound ridiculous. Unless of course you just say you are a graphic designer but really your not. Then that would explain alot.

he obviously doesn't know physics very well either. the scion xB actually is very aerodynamical. It's not just the overall shape, but the minor curves that make a car more or less aerodynamic. Look at the camry for example. That's all bubbly, and doesn't look very aerodynamic at all, however, it has an amazing 0.26 cod. The new 911 on the other hand has like a friggin 0.34 or osmething. Yes, i realize that cod isn't all there is to the equation, but it was just an example. Frontal area has a lot to do as well, which is something the xB ahs a lot of. but i still think it's a beautiful car.

i dont care what anybody says... i think the xB was a mistake! that is the most grotesque automobile on the face of the planet. I used to work at Toyota when the scions came out and i never thought about buying one; until the tC.. Now my brother has one and i just hope that scion is going to make better cars like the tC

Those are just the words of the typical hater. If the xB is so ugly...why is it doing so well? Toyota made one of the smartest moves ever made by a car company. Scion has helped Toyota get to where it has gone the last 3 years. Just wait and see where Scion takes itself in the years to come and then come back and make a statement like "the xB was a mistake." Get real and deal with realality.

Although the xB doesn't appeal to me and I think of it as a toaster on wheels, it's very roomy, cheap, and readily modifiable/customizable. I think it's much better than the xA too. My mom liked the tC, so she got one.

Ahhhh No.... To be a sucessful graphic designer, you have to adequately convey your clients' ideas to them and their audience with some of your style thrown in. You gotta know WHEN to "think outside of the box" just like you need to know when to use a brush or a camera.. and the last time I checked, INDUSTRIAL designers design cars...

I have been doing design and illustrative work for thirteen years now, from photography to murals to sculpture to web design and I know that adaptability keeps you employed, NOT being different "just cause"

I never said who I worked for... and No I don't work in the auto industry. and don't fool yourself... The Scion exists--just like every other car sold-- simply to make its parent company money, nothing more. If they don't sell, they're gone.. just that simple..

You know another phrase that gets bandied about alot? The one about making first impressions? Well I told you what mine was of the car, and I'm not alone... Never once did I say that there was something wrong with the people who liked the xB, but that you think I and others are personally "full of shit" or are "haters" because we don't like the car is giving me the impression that you are an ignorant "knee-jerk" asshole..

No just the fact that you don't give credit to the ones who deserve it. Toyota deserves every bit of respect they get because they have done an unbelieveable thing with the bringing out of Scion. And as a designer in general I thought you would be able to see that. Guess not. And when did I ever say anything about graphic designers designing the cars? Nope didn't say that. I said the Scion company is all about "design" not "graphic design". Again know what you are talking about before you voice an opinion. Also if you read most of the other posts that people have made about them not liking the xB, most you give it some type of props for something. You on the other hand attack the car for being a mistake and unfixable. Open your eyes.

Now for you thinking you know what it takes to be successful in the industry and all...what you say about giving the clients what they want and making them happy (I know thats not what you said exactly but same point) might be true when you work under someone else and have clients who come to you with their own ideas about what they want. I own my own agency, clients come to me because of my previous work and style...you know the whole "thinking outside the box" thing. Its proven to me, and not only me, to be a highly successful way to run this type of business. The business where I am able to retire at the age of 30.

Props to you for staying in this type of business for 13 years. I mean you have to be good at what you do to be successful at that, even more in the design industry. With that said...all I was saying at the begining was don't say that something was a mistake if it changed the future of a company, thats just not opening your eyes and looking at what is in front of you. The last thing I have to say to you would have to be..."jeezas-H-christ, WTF?".

I'm new here and am trying to learn about the Scion from owners but...

No offense, but why is everyone so hot for the xB?

When I see it, all I can think of is, "how the F*** did it's designer NOT get fired!?!?" If I showed up to a presentation meeting with a design that basically looked like I copied it from my toddler's drawing...after having months to come up with something, ...I would definitely be fired.

I dunno,... maybe they were puffing the ganja that day..

I don't understand the practicality of producing such and un-aerodynamic design! As a graphic designer, it messes with my sensibilities. How is it efficient or economical to be pushing a "brick" through the wind instead of a football?? Granted I don't expect that every car should look a bullet or a wing, but jeezas-H-christ, WTF?!!

All the aftermaket parts on earth won't correct that...

Also, I have being hearing and reading this mantra a lot lately.. "... I'll buy _______ but I don't like ..
a. Blah-blah blah... b. Blah-blah blah... c. Blah-blah blah...

So I gonna buy this, and that, and these, and swap this and change that..." WHY?!? If I can't afford the car of my dreams, then whatever I settle for will still be close, and I will be working towards that actual dream ride rather than draining my account on the fixes for the car I "sorta" like and had to settle for...

You say "no offense" but you do not convey that in your post........

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I love my XB because it's different, it doesn't look like any other cars on the road, it's also the most practical vehicle I've ever owned. I think it's rude that people talk down @ someone's choice in buying this car, you don't like it, don't buy it, don't talk shit cause someone likes something different than what you like, that's very immature.

I'd be excited about it if Scion had brought the "Open Deck" version over. As it is, the muted colors and understated styling aren't really getting me interested.

http://www.zbuffer.com/fark/2002_bb_open-deck_1.jpg


I don't like that at all. It loos like a retarded sport trac :lol: But whatever.

I'm not sure why anyone would try to compare the xB to a car. The xB is really just a mini-van. I bought mine because it's great for commuting and moving stuff. The fact that xB's still aren't common on the road in my area and are so polarizing in opinions is also a pretty cool phenomena.

But don't get tied up in the numbers. Thought did go into this vehicle. Remember that in the real world of funny looking mini-vans that a stock 108 hp xB beats the snot out of a stock 140hp PT cruiser. xB's weight distribution and power-to-weight ratio still makes it a fun vehicle to drive especially with the addition of just your favorite header, exhaust and cold air intake.

Uhm... XB~Blondie...

I said what I thought about the car and what I imagined.. Where (in my post which you so nicely captured) did I say ANYTHING about the people who like or buy the xB??
I didn't even say that the car was crap. I said that I think the design/look of it is Awful.

My post...
1. Asked what people like about it.
2. Said what runs through my head when I see an xB.
3. On a completely different topic, `what's with buying a car that you aren't fond
of to hop it up, instead of saving the funds and getting the car you really want?'

If you can find the lines where I "talk Shit about people" who buy or like the car? Please point them out to me..

I love to drive and have driven nearly 60 cars and trucks over the years. As the future owner of a Scion tC, I will test drive all 3 of the Scion models but.... I don't think my OPINION of the xB will be changing anytime soon...

For me, the "fun to drive" factor, the performance, and the maneuverability of a car are more important it's perceived "uniqueness"

You said that people are entitled to their opinion? Right?? Ok then....

Get A Tc!!!

AAAAAAMEN!!!!:clap:

Sweet ride, 'Rabbit..

Amen to that. SexyRabbit

There are two types of people:

1. Those who choose to stick with the crowd and either fail or SUCCEED in life.
2. Those who choose to take the road less traveled and either fail or EXCEL in life.

With that said:

(Type 1) Sporty, high performance cars
(Type 2) Unique, eye catchy cars

By keeping those two types of people in my mind, I can choose to excel rather than succeed. That's why I have a xB. (Besides they look alot better)

Are there not Sporty/high-performance cars that are unique/eye-catching ?

Are there not Unique/eye-catching cars that are also high in performance?

And what of the people who buy either of these types, opting not to sacrifice performance for looks or vice versa, what potential-rating label do you assign them?

Why does deciding to like one type of car versus another pre-determine what type of person you are?

What about the people who make their choice of car based solely on factors determined by the lives they live where price, family-size, job-type, location, and other extraneous factors are concerned?

And lastly, if being Unique means making a choice that is different from the 'norm' simply for the sake of being different, then what does it mean to get or want what you want simply because its what you-the individual wants?

I would have thought that getting whatever you like because its what you like would equate to an expression of your own personal preference in that regard and not much more.

You are right in acknowledging the fact that there are a lot of people who do what they do because others are doing the same, but I'm not sure that you can really just group people into groups that are based on their product preference and decide that one group's potential is more limited than the others by virtue of that preference

From my perspective, it seems that the tc presents more for the dollar than does the XB, but my perspective is not law, and there are factors that affect my perspective that stem from my own experience and show the tc to be more appealing to me..

From your perspective, you see that the XB is a better vehicle, and that also is fair, but not law. Your own experience and the factors that come from your life shape your opinions, and present the XB as a more appealing choice to you; just as mine do me with respect to the tc.

Liking one car over the other doesn't mean that one doesn't respect the other car for the very virtues that other people are attracted to.

Liking the tc over the XB doesn't mean that those who don't like the XB for its styling, don't respect the XB for being different, Unique, practical or even stylish (where its influence on the industry and social styling is concerned).

The point is that prefering one car over the other doesn't mean anything more than that you and i have different preferences, and at the end of the day, isn't that part of what makes us different...or 'Unique' from one another?

There are two types of people:

1. Those who choose to stick with the crowd and either fail or SUCCEED in life.
2. Those who choose to take the road less traveled and either fail or EXCEL in life.

With that said:

(Type 1) Sporty, high performance cars
(Type 2) Unique, eye catchy cars

By keeping those two types of people in my mind, I can choose to excel rather than succeed. That's why I have a xB. (Besides they look alot better)

:disappoin ....

Hmmm... Okay.

So you are saying that: some people set and accomplish goals; and others set goals and distinguish themselves? ..and you would prefer to distinguish yourself?

You are so entitled...but since the word excel simply means to surpass, to set apart, or to disnguish, I would prefer to succeed.

Somehow succeeding in... running a marathon, or.. finding a cure for a disease, or whatever goal you set for yourself, matters more to me than just excelling, because although you can excel at math, or singing, or chess, you can also excel at things like murder, or procrastination, or delusion...

Contrary to popular opinion, the difference between success and excellence is not a matter of degrees.. They mean different things.

With regards to your second generalization, I have to agree with Strete.. Why and when did performance and uniqueness become mutually exclusive, and more importantly why should I settle for either or? Especially when I can readily get both in one package? Your implication is inane.

This thread started with someone who owned a somewhat high maintenance car asking for opinions of the xB. It can be assumed in part that our opinions matter to him or her.

If s/he follows through with the purchase, and is happy, and it meets his requiremens, then s/he has SUCCEEDed in his goal, but if owning the xB leads to complaints, longing for something else, then s/he has FAILED to be happy, and yet has EXCELLED at deluding himself (or herself) and wasting his/her money.

I would take my TC over an Echo Engine XB box anyday. I always get people looking at my car in awe. hehe When I take it to get washed, It's fun to listen to the other people look and talk to each other about it. Many people have never even seen one yet. And damn to I love my Rims! =)~:whatwhat:

I dont know if its just me but the stock tc feels too slow... and thats coming from an xb owner... Yeah it looks good, drives fairly well, just a little overweight (esp for a 2 door). These cars have their strengths and weaknesses like any other car. That and my xb gets about 5 (at least) more mpg than a tc, and more cargo room, traction control, and vehicle stability control... bang for your buck is pretty even. Any one going to buy an Xb you have a thumbs up from me.

Slow?? Doubtfull.. I was driving on the 15 freeway last week and I looked down and saw that I was going 110 and didn't even notice it.. This thing has some power behind it... It picks up great getting on the freeway and last Gass fill up I got 300 Miles out of one tank of gas... May not be the best but that's a grip. I love my TC. I think it's just personal prefferences.. The TC was way more sporty and the XB is for those who really want to stand out.. :whatwhat:

The thing about the xB is that it was made to be different, but now that everyone and thier mother owns one, the uniqueness is gone. I personally like the xA better, but that's just my opinion.

I knew that was going to get tempures flairing. You guys are so predictable. Anyway it was a quote from and quote book and no I don't live by that quote nor do I think it is correct. I just knew you guys would come back with something strong and you did. I knew thats how you would respond. Thanks for proving myself right.

Damn, half of you almost wrote a book with your replys. Calm down guys...breathe.

riiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhht :rolleyes:

Well, personally I enjoy the xb quite a bit for what it is. Here in Hawaii, where gas is expensive, it is a very nice functional car. It is hard to beat the visibility. The power is ample. Cruise control here is a waste of money as we are on islands and speeds vary considerably. One can put quite a bit in the xb. I have a silver one, as it keeps interior heat down a bit in the sunshine. It is not a rice rocket and shouldn't be considered one. However, it is very functional if racing is not ones function. I don't like sitting way down in cars or I would have gotten a different vehicle. On the other hand, I don't like climbing way up in these ultra high bed trucks available today which make it near impossible to put anything in the bed without having to open the tailgate all the time to retrieve it. The xb seems to have loads of head height, good gas mileage, great visibility and ample power unless you are one of the folks that test drives for Car and Driver or Motor Trend and are never content with any vehicle's engine unless it is the largest engine available for the vehicle. If you like to sit low, and have lots of sun coming through the deeply slanted front and back windows, and more power, then perhaps the tc is better. This is just one person's view that is happy with his xb for what it is.

It looks like I'll be trading my 2003 WRX for the xB in 2 months. I too realize it a big step down in power but I love the looks, comfort, better gas milage and cost. I figure worse case scenario I'll pay it off in 2 years and keep it as a daily driver and pick up a fun 2 seater convertable that is not practical. There are some cool convertables in the works that aren't too expensive. Has anyone seen the Saturn Sky or Pontiac Solstice, Well google them and suspend in your mind the car maker that produces them. I couldn't believe the Sky was a Saturn!

Also to back up Strete and In4aPenny the perfect example of the very sporty/high performance AND eye catching is the Lotus Elise. My buddy has one and I swoon over the looks everytime. Driving it is bliss and it's great to watch people darn near wrecking their cars to look at it as you drive by.

LOTUS!!!! I saw one the other day and almost got in a wreck checking it out. Have to give you props for realizing that the Lotus causes CHAOS (head turning collisions). :clap:

WOW!.. I've never seen one of those.. Never even heard of them! How much do they run!!??
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:M7_-rFJ9OAYJ:www.siamcar.com/wallpaper/lotus/elise-3-800.jpeg

40-45k neighborhood.

also, for approximately 15k, u can get a K20A put in tehre (remapped to push 240hp) and even better suspension :clap:

I love my XB! I have a Tundra and a 4Runner and I picked up the Scion as a "daily driver". It is the most practical vehicle I have ever owned. I've had station wagons, suvs, hatchbacks, coupes, everything and this beats them all! 2 Weeks ago I picked up a huge reclining massage chair for my wife and it fit right in w/plenty of room to spare. Amazed the guys @ the loading dock!

:thumbup:I would take my TC over an Echo Engine XB box anyday. I always get people looking at my car in awe. hehe When I take it to get washed, It's fun to listen to the other people look and talk to each other about it. Many people have never even seen one yet. And damn to I love my Rims! =)~:whatwhat:
Thats pretty funny.

I can't imagine anyone looking at a tC in awe.

Maybe in awe of how Toyota came out with a new brand that was supposed to be exciting and innovative then stuck the Scion label on a what is a very basic, typically generic Toyota design. Volvo V40 front end. Saturn Ion rear end, Toyota Paseo for the rest, drop in a Camry 4 cylinder and you have a tC.

Say what you will about the xB, but it is DIFFERENT, INNOVATIVE and PRACTICAL. The tC is none of those things. It's not a proper sports car. It's not fast, it's not exciting looking. It's just an nice looking coupe that is a good value. Nothing extraordinary or head turning about it.

If you think people are dazzled when they see a tC then you're delusional. People who drive Saturn ION's probably think everyone gets a boner when they drive by too. :whatwhat:

Hello to TN! I know I like the xB because I just ordered one last night.

The opening message in this thread talked about trading a WRX for an xB. I will be trading an '02 Passat V6 for an xB. The VW is a nice car, but I'm looking for more economy and reliability. The xB is perfect for me as I'm 6'7" tall and fit into very few vehicles. The xA was a close second, but I wouldn't last long in a car that's a little small for me, instead of "just right". The tC isn't even an option.

I wish other carmakers would build cars that fit our growing population - even most large vehicles are actually small inside, and the xB has them all beat!

I didn't buy the Xb to be unique or look cool. I bought it simply b/c I wanted a vehicle that can haul stuff (like a small van), get plenty of passenger room, get good gas mileage (i drive around 20k mi a year), handle great, and accelerate adequately. It did all that.

When I first saw it I thought, "what the heck is that". It was so different I couldn't decide if I liked the look or not. It started to grow on me and I had the opportunity to drive one from a guy I work with. I was soo impressed I bought one.

Despite it's boxy shape, it handles great. It has the VW BMW (german) stiff stearing that is very responsive and predictable. Turning radius is outstanding. It handles has good if not better than my 2003 Mit Eclipse Spyder. Oh, and it is quicker too. Yes, I said quicker. My 5 spd manual Eclipse was only a 4 cyclinder and quite frankly sucked. It was soo slow (weighing 3000 lbs). Keep in mind I got the 5 spd manual Xb. I have only heard of the automatic and how slow it is. See the auto will be at 3200 rpm at 80 mph, while the manual will be at 4000 rpm at 80. The manual gear ratio is very different making it quicker with a lower top end speed. It is an excellent city car. I don't drive over 100 mph. I don't really drive over 80 for that matter. The Xb manual will be at least has quick as the protege or lancer or any other $15k car.

Another thing I like about the Xb is the storage. It has so many spots for storge throughout the dash for just little things like Cd folder or phone.

I've had it for close to a year now and I love it. No regrets. It is very fun to drive. Very zippy for in the city.

I can understand that. I drove the TC and felt cramped for headroom and I'm only 6 feet tall.

While the Xb is no WRX I laugh at people who say it's slow. The Xb has about the same power to weight ratio as the new Mini Cooper, the original VW GTI and many SuV's that weigh over 6k pounds.

The handling is not too shabby either when pitted against these 2 classic handlers (both of which I've owned). Many Americans tend to think in terms of American muscle which, like it or not, is not what most people actually need and is certainly not the future.

I will be getting a vehicle when I turn 18 because my family only has one car that's currently drivable. I'm considering an xB or a used Prius.

Here are my questions about the xB:

1) How loud is it driving 50-60 miles per hour on pavement?

2) How does it ride?

3) Can the driver get used to looking at the right to view speed, engine RPM etc.?

4) (Directed to the gen4 Camry owners) does the xB feel as powerful as a 97-99 Camry with the 4-cylinder engine?

5) How's the ground clearance?

6) Does the heater and A/C heat up/cool down quickly?

7) Does the traction control and VSC work well in the winter?

Those are my questions. Thanks in advance if they're answered. :)

1. not that loud when going under 3k rpm...
2. the ride is stiff (Toyota thinks youth like stiff ride).
3. yes, even everyone in the xB...
4. i drove my cousin's '01 Camry 4-cylinder, it got more power than the xB (duh!).
5. ground clearance is good, 6in of it. i havent scrape the bottom yet.
6. a/c and/or heater takes time to get to the temperature you want.
7. i only driving in the rain (im in SoCal) and i think its ok. i havent been in snow...

hope that helps. of course, thats in my opinion. everyone's opinion is different...

The ride is a bit stiff but it's not obnoxious.

And while it may not have as much power as a camry, the excelleration numbers 0-60 are similar between the automatic 4 cyl. camry and the Xb manual.

Personally I've been surprised to notice that in pulls up hills the Xb is a gear higher than my 5 speed 4.0 6 cylinder jeep wrangler. The lower gearing has a lot to do with it.

It does drone a bit at 75mph but thats to be expected. At 60 it's hardly noticable.

Maybe you should just buy an element instead...
It has more room inside, like 70 more hp, gets 21mpg, drives great, the whole inside is waterproof (including the speakers), and has 64 seating configurations

You can get a DX for around the same price as an Xb

Is there a reason why you need to bump a 14 months thread?

:thumbup:
Thats pretty funny.

I can't imagine anyone looking at a tC in awe.

Maybe in awe of how Toyota came out with a new brand that was supposed to be exciting and innovative then stuck the Scion label on a what is a very basic, typically generic Toyota design. Volvo V40 front end. Saturn Ion rear end, Toyota Paseo for the rest, drop in a Camry 4 cylinder and you have a tC.

Say what you will about the xB, but it is DIFFERENT, INNOVATIVE and PRACTICAL. The tC is none of those things. It's not a proper sports car. It's not fast, it's not exciting looking. It's just an nice looking coupe that is a good value. Nothing extraordinary or head turning about it.

If you think people are dazzled when they see a tC then you're delusional. People who drive Saturn ION's probably think everyone gets a boner when they drive by too. :whatwhat:

Now thats f/en funny

Yeah, sorry about that
I didn't realize it was so old