Check this out ! 500 at the wheels TC

and going to 600 at the wheels :eek:

http://www.jotechracing.com/html/projectcars/projectcar_details.asp?ProjectVehicleID=55

Holy shit..!:eek:

i guess the 2az-fe is a great platform after all...

:eek: wow... impressive!

whoa thats freaking crazy.....

finally someone found more info and pics on this beast....

orginally posted here, http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55924

but thanks for the link and the pics

That is sex..... :whatwhat: wow.. should I keep my cam or chase my original tC dreams from when it first came out...

EDIT: My Cam is worth about $5k (Dealer Trade) @ KBB.com,
97 LE V6, 108kish miles, leather all over, sunroof, etc. Is there anybody here who works at a Scion dealership, would the dealership give me about that much? I "built" my tC at the site and it came up to about 17k. How much would my payments be with fair/poor credit... minus the $5k?

Wow, that's great!! Are you guys spraying nitrous at all? I didn't read that you were, but I was wondering. Also, what kind of turbo are you using? I'm guessing something like a T3/T4R or something similar. Beautiful work though, I wish more people would take this kind of pride in what they do!! Keep up the amazing work!

Zach

:eek:

Wow ... that about sums up everything I just saw.

that car is friggin' nuts. If my car was like that then i can get to work in just under a minute.:lol:

Ruffrydasean (http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/member.php?u=9831) vbmenu_register("postmenu_519104", true); :


with fair/poor credit, you could get your tC for 13200 after trade-in (including 10% apr) and pay about $220/month for 60 months

wow, that is one hella nice TC

wouldnt expect that from a tC. props :thumbup:

Damn :eek:

HIZA! man that Tc is ripped. I think a scion is my next car not sure which one yet though...

i give it: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

pick up the new Modified Magazine, it's on the cover..:clap:

Such An Ill Car

thats hot :smokin:

Wow...

I wonder how much all that cost - they did it really nice. :thumbup:

NOICE!!!! i think i'm in love :naughty:

i just want a tc that car is sex to me just like an rx 7 is sex to some people. plus the fiance loves it, not gonna get rid of the camry tho its here to stay

*insert random holy crap thing*

:thumbsup:

and going to 600 at the wheels :eek:

http://www.jotechracing.com/html/projectcars/projectcar_details.asp?ProjectVehicleID=55
Yeah. The FRONT wheels. :thumbdown

I guess I'll never get the excitement over the porky mini Camry.

You know something is wrong when they discontinue the Supra, begin phasing out the MR2 and all anyone can do is get a hard on for the Camry Slowara Jr.

Does anyone actually know what a sports car is on here?

Mid engine, RWD, uncompromised and well balanced chassis. These are things to get excited about.

This car is a cool project, but come on. 500 hp through the front wheels is just retarded. It will have ungodly torque steer and probably go through CV joints faster than oil filters unless they baby it and then what's the point?

This point is that this isn't a sports car. It isn't a machine that you would drive on the streets. I mean come on, how much do you think they dropped on that Tc? It was an excercise for the people building it and more importantly an advertising tool. It was designed to make people go, "wow, that's cool!" and then shell out a bunch of money on aftermarket parts.

I agree, when you get above 200-250 Hp if you don't have rear wheel or all wheel drive the torque steer is going to drive you crazy, or off a bridge. So, look at the popularity of the WRX and the Evo's. They are excellent "sports cars" for under or around $30k. You can get a Tc for under $17k. So obviously the TC wasn't meant to compete in the same MARKET as these other sports cars. The Tc is a sporty coupe, I wouldn't neccesarily call it a sports car though.

Most people who modify their cars aren't looking for 500hp. They are looking for modest HP and performance gains. I think most people with a Tc who are into modifying them would be happy to get a 30 hp gain with modifications. So you drop a couple thousand to get a 30 hp gain and you're still under 20k. That's okay, isn't it?

This point is that this isn't a sports car. It isn't a machine that you would drive on the streets. I mean come on, how much do you think they dropped on that Tc? It was an excercise for the people building it and more importantly an advertising tool. It was designed to make people go, "wow, that's cool!" and then shell out a bunch of money on aftermarket parts.

I agree, when you get above 200-250 Hp if you don't have rear wheel or all wheel drive the torque steer is going to drive you crazy, or off a bridge. So, look at the popularity of the WRX and the Evo's. They are excellent "sports cars" for under or around $30k. You can get a Tc for under $17k. So obviously the TC wasn't meant to compete in the same MARKET as these other sports cars. The Tc is a sporty coupe, I wouldn't neccesarily call it a sports car though.

Most people who modify their cars aren't looking for 500hp. They are looking for modest HP and performance gains. I think most people with a Tc who are into modifying them would be happy to get a 30 hp gain with modifications. So you drop a couple thousand to get a 30 hp gain and you're still under 20k. That's okay, isn't it?
:werd:

Fair enough. :thumbup:

No it's not ok because the damn car is still 3000lbs! Can you say SLOW? By the time you make it fast, you can get a RSX or 350Z and you don't even have to modify the RSX and 350Z which means you've still got the full factory warranty.

As much as I hate to defend the dull tC...

The RSX is barely 100lbs lighter then the tC.

The 350Z is nearly 400 lbs heavier.

Just for the record.

Oh and both are a hell of a lot more expensive than a tC and the RSX is barely faster.

RSX has 220hp and weighs less yet has better suspension tuning
350z is heavier but it has 280hp and it handles way better than tC.
350z starts at $25K.

RSX isn't that much more expensive because after you add all the mods that you'd need to try and equal the RSX, you'd have end up with a modded tC that'll cost the same as the stock RSX.

You'd have to find 60 more hp while retaining reliability and warranty. You'd have to replaces the shocks and springs on the tC to get similar handling characteristics of the RSX and it'll still be heavier.

The tC is not a racing car. Otherwise, it would have been called "rC" or something along those lines. I don't think anyone believes that the tC is a high performance car; it's just one of the best values in it's price range (personally, I wouldn't consider the RSX high performance either). However, this thread is about turboing a tC to achieve 500 at the wheels for about the same price as an RSX. Yes, the springs can't handle turns given the extra speed, but it goes really, really fast in a straight line (google the video of it's running times) -- and I think that was the whole point of the thread... It's just cool to see someone make a car that many of us here love, go freaking fast. :-) If I wanted a high performance racing to price ratio, I'd get a Lotus Elise or something... But that's just me.

My 2¢

Spyguy

The tCs suspension is not bad at all. Sure its not going to be better than a sports car that costs twice as much. but it is better then Mustangs and other cars in its class. All the tC needs is just to be tightened up a little. And with the money you saved you can easily buy springs, sway bars and whatever mods your little heart desires.

my friend just bought a brand new tC and raced my homegirl who just bought a brand new rsx type-s... i would go with the rsx type-s

now, if he bought an xs engineering turbo kit that adds about 100hp to his tC, he would still only be at like 159hp (115hp due to altitude & at the wheels) so up to 215hp - at wheels, compared to a STOCK RSX Type-S that has 180hp, putting the boosted tC only 30-40hp more.

although it can be made into a decent ride, he could pull pretty nicely if he decided to boost about 8lbs. considering he do the correct engine modifications as well and doesn't just try to slap on a turbo kit.

i made a joke to my friend with the tC - that it stood for Too Cheap lol since he thinks he's hot shit with that car and all.

Where are people coming up with these numbers for the RSX? Has anybody ever actually read any of the literature on the RSX?

The '02-'04 RSX type S has 200 HP at 7400 RPM. The 2005 type s has 210 HP at 7800 RPM and the msrp is $23,670. Are you telling me for $6000 more the RSX type S should be compared to the Tc? Spend $6k more on a stock Tc then come back and tell me it's slower than an RSX.

Don't get me wrong, I like both cars. I use to own a '02 Civic Si which has the same engine as the base RSX. So I think it's more fair to compare the Civic Si or the base RSX with the Tc.

But look at the specs. The Tc gets 160 HP @ 5700 rpm whereas the RSX and Civc Si get 160 HP at 6500 RPM. And look at the torque. The Civic Si and RSX have only 140 ft/lbs where the TC has 160 ft/lbs. The Tc should smoke the base RSX. Now, with my old Civic Si it took a while to get into the power band. And then you hit the redline. I liked the car, but it really annoyed me that I would get it to really start to take off and then it would redline. The RSX type s has the same problem. IT hits it's maximum horse power only a few hundred rpm before redline.

I say get a TC over any RSX. The base RSX is over $20,000 and a stock TC will cream a base RSX anyday. Besides, they are getting rid of the RSX and replacing it with the new Honda Civic SI (available this fall). Sorry to say the new Civic si will be a 200 hp screamer. It's basically the RSX type S drive train with a Honda badge. Toyota will have to do some catching up. Of course, it'll probably be over $20,000. So you can drop a Supercharger in your TC for the same price.

yeah, a supercharged tC is supposed to be making 200 hp at the crank..


should be interesting...

The '02-'04 RSX type S has 200 HP at 7400 RPM. The 2005 type s has 210 HP at 7800 RPM and the msrp is $23,670. Are you telling me for $6000 more the RSX type S should be compared to the Tc? Spend $6k more on a stock Tc then come back and tell me it's slower than an RSX.


So true, spend $6k on a tC and get this:
http://scionspeed.com/
(Scionspeed Stage III turbo running on stock internals pushing 435whp for $5500 preordered)

BTW, yes 425whp is going to put alot of stress on the stock internals and not going to be practical for everyday use in a FWD car. But, my point is the tC really likes boost and you can get a nice turbo for little money if power is what you want. The tC is the best value around.

Where are people coming up with these numbers for the RSX? Has anybody ever actually read any of the literature on the RSX?

The '02-'04 RSX type S has 200 HP at 7400 RPM. The 2005 type s has 210 HP at 7800 RPM and the msrp is $23,670. Are you telling me for $6000 more the RSX type S should be compared to the Tc? Spend $6k more on a stock Tc then come back and tell me it's slower than an RSX.

Don't get me wrong, I like both cars. I use to own a '02 Civic Si which has the same engine as the base RSX. So I think it's more fair to compare the Civic Si or the base RSX with the Tc.

But look at the specs. The Tc gets 160 HP @ 5700 rpm whereas the RSX and Civc Si get 160 HP at 6500 RPM. And look at the torque. The Civic Si and RSX have only 140 ft/lbs where the TC has 160 ft/lbs. The Tc should smoke the base RSX. Now, with my old Civic Si it took a while to get into the power band. And then you hit the redline. I liked the car, but it really annoyed me that I would get it to really start to take off and then it would redline. The RSX type s has the same problem. IT hits it's maximum horse power only a few hundred rpm before redline.Bench racing doesn't really show what will happen in the realworld. You don't need much torque if you have a close ratio 5sp or 6sp. RSX is lighter than the tC too and the engine is i-VTEC, so there's no boost near redline, it's smooth.

arent you the pcengine from beyond3D?

its only a great platform because they re-sleeved the block ... In that case any motor can made great with that many parts and tunning

i saw this on HDNET, they are waiting for a sport clutch in order for them to punch i guess, cuz the boost that's coming out of the engine is took much or some shit...