Rotora Big Brake Kits for AVALON, SOLARA, CAMRY, RAV 4, LEXUS ES300

They're available!!!:clap:
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http://www.rotora.com/press%20release/SOLARA.pdf


http://www.rotora.com/online-store/scstore/HTML/images/rotorabanner.gif

$2095.00 dollars... Shit thats alot for just the front ... I'm having mine done for $1553.00 for 6 pistons in the front and 4pistons in the back .. With 11.75" front rotors with aluminum hat centers and using just the stock v6 rear rotors...

Yeah that's list price on all their stuff. I'm sure a group buy could possibly arranged, What manufacturer are you going with? Wilwood from Precision Brakes?

Wilwood

i'd be down... in the summer time anyway. And i heard rotora was making a mini brake kit for OE replacements.. i wonder what ever happened to those.. I saw an ad and everything

so having a 4 cyclinder sucks huh :sosad: :sosad:
only v6 gets to have a nice brake kit .........

Xrunner and I are tight with some of the people at Rotora (they used his truck to make a kit and will be using mine)... Im sure if enough interest was shown we could get them to give us a nice deal on a big brake kit group buy.

If you guys want some good deals on rotora, let me know. My friend gets the BEST DEALS from them. He has prototyped TWO cars for them so they get a really good deal. Probably the lowest prices from them.

You can email him at paul@350zonline.com Let him know that Yukio sent you about Rotora big brakes.

For some reason I couldn't get the link to work. So is it just for the V6 Camry's or will the front brakes work the same on the 4 cylinder.

:confused: I'm still trying to think other than wriath and tony, who in hell could possibly need larger brakes.
:ugh3:


Drawing a total blank. :disappoin

^ Uhm... you don't nessesarily need 500hp to have big brakes. There are people here who go canyon carving, auto crossing, and road racing that want more response out of their braking. :rolleyes:

:confused: I'm still trying to think other than wriath and tony, who in hell could possibly need larger brakes.
:ugh3:


Drawing a total blank. :disappoin

ME. I take my car to the track... Dont think stock 4 cyl brakes with drums in the rear are enough to slow down a built motor with a turbo slapped on it...

IF a groupbuy would really happen in the near future, can 4 cyl guys like me participate ??????? or there are no BBK for 4 cyl ???

yes yes they will fit 4 cyl models too, rotora has a set that will fit them (loren told me so, regardless of whether its on their list).

there isn't anyone here doing full blown road racing
with basic components there is no reason why every camry on this forum can't do 70-0 in 160-175'. WITH NO FADE...

UfoZ the only time you were pushing 250hp out of that i4 was when you blew it up:rolleyes:

Toyrme...
dude can you please not make statements like these:
UfoZ the only time you were pushing 250hp out of that i4 was when you blew it up:rolleyes:



I think thats insulting... If thats statement was about me ... I would take it as such ... Plus it sounds like you been doing this alot lately... I'm will start to keep my eye on you ...

there isn't anyone here doing full blown road racing
with basic components there is no reason why every camry on this forum can't do 70-0 in 160-175'. WITH NO FADE...

UfoZ the only time you were pushing 250hp out of that i4 was when you blew it up:rolleyes:


It's stuff like this that hinders new products from being produced. If you don't like it or don't feel the need for it yourself then just keep your mouth shut about it. You don't need to talk shit on something because you THINK that nobody would benefit from it.

When I had my camry I did alot of Mountain/Canyon driving and no matter how fresh the brake fluid was or how new the stock sized rotors were. They would eventually warp to all hell after 10k miles. There was also alot of fade with the stock sized rotors. The big rotor kit helped tremendously. And I would have loved to have an actual big brake kit. Just because you don't do the type of driving to where a product like this would be beneficial to you doesn't mean it wouldn't be usefull to other's.

And how about the people that like to take their cars to the track and open it up to high speeds.
Stock sized brakes are worthless in this situation.

Dude... I can't fade my brakes and I roll the heavyest car here LoL!

I can do 120-0 all day... 0-80-0-80-0 as much as I want...
Once i broke my last set of brembro blanks in, they were doing 70-0 in 164'. I've never had them test over 174ft' fully loaded. (almost, or over 3500lbs)
I do the "canyon racing" thing on a road near here about two miles long both ways... Both the corolla, and the protege breaks would not slow the car on return journey. The ES doesn't fade period.
Without all the bloat i've added, and some minor reduction, I'm sure this car could do 70-0 in 160 or less with good tires and deleting some weight. That's porsche terrotory.

If you come down from high (110mph+) with your foot all the way down; ABS is all-ready kicking your foot the pedal to keep the tires from locking.
Don't look at me. Nothing special about my breaks... Just high boil fluid, blank rotors and hawk hps pads...
I don't even remember... ES/camry wagon brakes are v6 up front, and 1" bigger in rear? and add more than a hundred lbs's and ABS standard.



Sorry guys... Not to absilutely try and shoot it down, but for those of us not doing road racing, nor have the ability to do 150mph. I don't really see a reason for larger breaks. Maaaaybe that's just me ;)

there isn't anyone here doing full blown road racing
with basic components there is no reason why every camry on this forum can't do 70-0 in 160-175'. WITH NO FADE...

UfoZ the only time you were pushing 250hp out of that i4 was when you blew it up:rolleyes:



Kinda uncalled for.

there isn't anyone here doing full blown road racing
with basic components there is no reason why every camry on this forum can't do 70-0 in 160-175'. WITH NO FADE...

UfoZ the only time you were pushing 250hp out of that i4 was when you blew it up:rolleyes:


*Yes there is.
*You overestimate the potential of Camry braking systems, even with upgraded components.
*Kiss my ass, I never made any claims to making 250hp. I have not and will not make any number claims until I have dyno sheets to prove it. I dont know you, nor do I like you, so stop talking shit about me. If I want a fucking big brake kit on my car then that is my perogative.

Dude... I can't fade my brakes and I roll the heavyest car here LoL!

I can do 120-0 all day... 0-80-0-80-0 as much as I want...
Once i broke my last set of brembro blanks in, they were doing 70-0 in 164'. I've never had them test over 174ft' fully loaded. (almost, or over 3500lbs)
I do the "canyon racing" thing on a road near here about two miles long both ways... Both the corolla, and the protege breaks would not slow the car on return journey. The ES doesn't fade period.
Without all the bloat i've added, and some minor reduction, I'm sure this car could do 70-0 in 160 or less with good tires and deleting some weight. That's porsche terrotory.

If you come down from high (110mph+) with your foot all the way down; ABS is all-ready kicking your foot the pedal to keep the tires from locking.
Don't look at me. Nothing special about my breaks... Just high boil fluid, blank rotors and hawk hps pads...
I don't even remember... ES/camry wagon brakes are v6 up front, and 1" bigger in rear? and add more than a hundred lbs's and ABS standard.

Sorry guys... Not to absilutely try and shoot it down, but for those of us not doing road racing, nor have the ability to do 150mph. I don't really see a reason for larger breaks. Maaaaybe that's just me ;)

Maaaaybe you have no idea what youre talking about because you dont know what I do with my car... How many times have I said that my Camry actually does see track time and my plans are to make it a time attack car? Also realize that youre talking about ABS- something my car doesnt have, therefore is not an issue with me. And no matter what you tell yourself buddy, there's no way your freakin ES300 with minor brake mods is going to stop as short as a Porsche (maybe one of those old 70s 914s :rolleyes: ). Stop talking about me and my car like you know anything about it, because you obviously dont. And dont forget that some people on the board have SHOW cars (ie Yukio, eddie)- Regardless of whether or not they can break the sound barrier, the car still has to have the right components to do well at shows.

And dont forget that some people on the board have SHOW cars (ie Yukio, eddie)- Regardless of whether or not they can break the sound barrier, the car still has to have the right components to do well at shows.

Hey man, My car did break the sound barrier, and then broke down and blew a rear main seal... :lol:

Seriously though, once my car gets out of the shop from its engine rebuild, I want to get these brakes cuz it's just bad ass.

And Allen, don't let this guy get to you. Remember, "IGNORANCE IS BLISS". ;)

When I had my camry I did alot of Mountain/Canyon driving and no matter how fresh the brake fluid was or how new the stock sized rotors were.
And how about the people that like to take their cars to the track and open it up to high speeds.
Stock sized brakes are worthless in this situation.

:werd: i also take my car to the twisty canyons and have attended an auto-x event at california speedway when there was jgtc/d1gp last dec @ california speedway.... the braking during auto-x with stock brakes, and drums in the back (i have no abs just like allen) was just sluggish.....my car was like "no go and no stop" :rolleyes:

fuck..whats with all the anger in these threads lately... :disappoin

id be interested in a big brake kit for the looks rather than stopping power

Toysrme's comments are uncalled for. Everyone buys parts for their own reasons, you dont need to have a full blown race car to put "race car" parts on your car. I dont need more horsepower than the car came with from the factory but i want it just the same.

What im interested in is the weight difference between this brake kit and the stock v6 Camry brakes. Also, is the kit setup to work with the stock master cylinder (are the v6 and i4 master cylinders the same? Are gen 3 gen 4 master cylinders the same?)

From what Im told, they are set up to work with your stock master cylinder. The kits themselves are different for the different years of each car though, so I dont think that the gen 3/4 master cylinders are interchangeable.

hey yukio... whats hot on the show scene now in terms of wheels? i figure you have about as much insight on it as anyone... Im a big fan of 5zigen FN01 RCs, but EVERYONE and their mother has them now. Ill be using a set of them as my track wheels though.

Regardless of all the comments I'd still be interested. My Sentra has 4 wheel disc brakes, slotted and drilled rotors with Carbotech pads and the stopping power is awesome. My Camry on the other hand leaves a lot to be desired (and yes I have rear drums). When I stop sometimes I hope a parachute will open up in the back or something.

Price will be a factor since I would need to save up. If not a big brake kit, if they have any other breaking upgrades then I would be interested in those too. Please keep me updated.

Keep it civil and on topic.

Anymore crap or post whoring and I'll lock this thread without notice.

Not sure why my post was deleted, but the owner was a real prick to me, which is why I wouldn't support their products. I'm sure he would treat everyone else the same way since he was the same way to his friend that he came out here to visit.

If anyone is contemplating a big brake groupbuy.....we need some ## as far as people and price...if it is a good price...then I'm in.

What I am concerned is how would it be possible to use the stock master cylinder to push these 4-pot suckers... The pad surface on the Rotora is noticably more, plus the fact that there are 4 piston (pretty large ones too by looking at the size of those pads)... I just don't see it possible to retain a firm and responsive brake feel.

I will have to point out though that a car can NEVER have too much braking... The more the better, but cost vs effectiveness vs function is what restricts every car having 13" rotors and such. With us being here on ToyotaNation, I am sure those who are considering this brake kit:

1. would already have 17" wheels
2. would be willing to put the money into their Camry

I would jump onto this Rotora brake kit if it came with a master cylinder upgrade, or suggests the use of a larger MC from another Toyota. It's a lot of work to be retrofitting a larger MC, and the money involved would be insane.

I must agree however that the stock Camry V6 brakes are pretty impressive. I am not sure about the later years, but the 1994 has two piston calipers. With nice carbon pads, I can lock up my tires (BFG G-forces) at about 120km/h. The rotor is decently sized and I didn't notice any fade after 3-4 consecutive hard stops. I would love to have larger brakes, but the money involved would make me stick with the stockers and rather put the money to lighten up the car instead --> stop and accelerate faster at the same time

^Good points... You V6 guys dont have as much to worry about as us dinky braked I4 guys. I wont be doing the Rotora upgrade for a while, just keeping what i have in the front and adding a V6 disc conversion to the rear.

They said they integrate well with the stock MC, and they build them accordingly to the specs of the master cylinders.

I got off the phone with Loren @ Rotora and he said they only sell to distributors, so if we can get one of our vendors on here to order from them, then we can get a groupbuy set up with one of the vendors.

Oh and I might be working in sales with Rotora, so maybe I can already have my first set of orders lined up.
:D

I can get my friend to set something up with you guys...

I can get my friend to set something up with you guys...

You gonna send me some customers or you talking about having a retailer set us up with a group buy. I want the sales yo. :D

Cam2xrunner can you ask around about my question at the company, i swear I saw an ad for mini brake kits in one of my car mags...

I must agree however that the stock Camry V6 brakes are pretty impressive. I am not sure about the later years, but the 1994 has two piston calipers. With nice carbon pads, I can lock up my tires (BFG G-forces) at about 120km/h
I agree... '93 ES 300 has two piston calipers.


I have the cheapie $35 tires and the ABS starts bucking the pedal at 60mph if you keep your foot down hard on dry road.

I know this has been said 300 times already, but CAMRY BRAKES FADE!!!!
I put close to 100 miles per day on my car, and run it down a 7 mile twisted road once or twice a week....thats 7 miles of hell for brakes. 90-30 80-25 70-25.....after the 3rd or 4th turn they start fading....thats maybe 2 miles in. Granted for everyday a-b driving the brakes are fine, But if you want to be able to have consistant brakes for hard driving your going to need an upgrade regardless of hp and engine mods. Everything that is done to a car as far as brakes, suspension, rubber and rims *as long as your not throwing 24 inch spinners on it* will help you in the corners. The way I see it is this, If I can stay at 90 mph a few seconds longer, thats a few seconds I am ahead of my previous self. Think about it, seconds decide races.

^^

Putting larger brakes doesn't mean it is the end of brake fade... Pads are equally important to reduce fade.

I bet if you slap some aftermarket pads (more biased to racing), you will not have any more fade, not until you decide to do 10-20 consecutive braking sessions :)

Larger brakes comes with a cost... as in the need for larger wheels which in turn increase overall wheel weight... now your brakes have to overpower this increased weight. There is a balance in between... So far IMO, the stock Camry rotors are decently sized for its vehicle weight. The pad surface of the stock Camry calipers isn't bad as well.

They said they integrate well with the stock MC, and they build them accordingly to the specs of the master cylinders.

I got off the phone with Loren @ Rotora and he said they only sell to distributors, so if we can get one of our vendors on here to order from them, then we can get a groupbuy set up with one of the vendors.

Oh and I might be working in sales with Rotora, so maybe I can already have my first set of orders lined up.
:D

Brake companies say a lot of stuff... lol I don't trust comments made by themselves who sells their own products.

Honda for example, I have been inside nearly 4-5 big brake Hondas... Most of these kits say they work wonderful with the stock MC... yeah right, not even close. On one car in particular, I had to drop the brake pedal about 3-4 inches of travel before the brakes react. It works, but it does not have a correct brake feel and reaction. On all the other big brake kits using stock MC's, none of them worked out. None of them was able to retain stock brake feel and firmness.

On the Camry, I don't see it being any different. The pistons are larger, holds more capacity, larger calipers, etc... It doesn't take a genius to guess what the end result would be.

You gonna send me some customers or you talking about having a retailer set us up with a group buy. I want the sales yo. :D

I can get a vendor to set this up.

Brake companies say a lot of stuff... lol I don't trust comments made by themselves who sells their own products.

Honda for example, I have been inside nearly 4-5 big brake Hondas... Most of these kits say they work wonderful with the stock MC... yeah right, not even close. On one car in particular, I had to drop the brake pedal about 3-4 inches of travel before the brakes react. It works, but it does not have a correct brake feel and reaction. On all the other big brake kits using stock MC's, none of them worked out. None of them was able to retain stock brake feel and firmness.

On the Camry, I don't see it being any different. The pistons are larger, holds more capacity, larger calipers, etc... It doesn't take a genius to guess what the end result would be.
IMO - Experience is worth it's weight in gold. As Tony eluded to above, if you are looking to improve braking performance, one will likely need to upgrade the MC to take true advantage of the bigger hardware. Brake pedal feel is immensely important, just as suspension feedback is- having a soft brake pedal is not reassuring when you are a$$tearing around the track or roadways...yea they will look like a million bucks but you are better off experimenting with brake pad composition, getting some slotted/coated rotors and slap on some steel braided brake lines. Lastly, suspension is vastly overlooked for positive, accurate, controlled braking. The badest, meanest brakes in the world on your Camry would perform huge percentage gains in stopping distances with a firmer, balanced suspension components working in tandem. In short, they will look great but will they really yield the improvement to justify the cost. Someone try to do some measurements with a buddy b/4 brake upgrade and after brake upgrade to see if the benefit is really there. Though this would tough to since probably none of us work for MotorTrend or have hours to spare. If you have the cash to drop just on looks...make sure we all can see some pics. Peace~

I dunno, but i need something, maybe someone can refer me to some good brake pads. I bought a new set in like august/sept. and need some new pads already.

I am going to take my camry to Rotora late monday night and they will do a test fitting for the Gen 3 Brakes. I will let you know what goes on. :thumbup:

^ good stuff keep us updated

I am going to take my camry to Rotora late monday night and they will do a test fitting for the Gen 3 Brakes. I will let you know what goes on. :thumbup:

Bastard... :lol: You beat me to it. If my fucking car would be fucking running fucking fuck shit!

hahahha... wanna pick me up from rotora? Or do you want to drive my civic and follow me to rotora?