harry
06-10-2005, 08:36 PM
Hi,
Time to change my original tires on Sequoia 2004 Limited.
Read a lot of good responses on The Michelin CT or LTX M/S. Unfortunately
the LTX does not have the right size for Sequoia 265/65/R17 while CT seems
to have it. Though Michelin rates CT and LTX same tread life, the response
on Forum does not seem that way. LTX is definitely winning on votes in
terms of tread life. I really hope not to change tires again in 40,000
miles.
What other choices do I have?
"harry" <harry_liu@lcc.com> sez:
<snip>
> Time to change my original tires on Sequoia 2004 Limited.
The OEM skins are lame, I pulled 'em right from the start off the missus'
Sequoia and off my Tundra D-Cab, sold 'em through the paper to recoup a few
$$$s and put decent rubber on. Being the last line of defense on the road,
I want all the advantage I can get. :-)
> Read a lot of good responses on The Michelin CT or LTX M/S. Unfortunately
> the LTX does not have the right size for Sequoia 265/65/R17 while CT seems
> to have it.
I'm running the 265/70/R17 on the Sequoia & Tundra without any interference
problems and the LTX M/S comes in that size. See:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=LTX+M%2FS
> Though Michelin rates CT and LTX same tread life, the response
> on Forum does not seem that way. LTX is definitely winning on votes in
> terms of tread life. I really hope not to change tires again in 40,000
> miles.
The LTX M/S tires I run on the Tundra, 265/76/R16 LR-E for running
loaded/towing (I have both 16 & 17" rims so have two sets of tires), already
have about 30,000 miles on them and given the amount of tread left they'll
deliver between 60-80,000 mi. total. While a nice long-life tire with quiet
road manners, they leave a little to be desired in the wet and even more to
be desired in the snow.
> What other choices do I have?
Seriously consider the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+A%2FT+Revo
They are excellent tires, very quiet at speed and have much better wet/snow
traction than the LTXs. They likely won't deliver the 60,000+ miles that
the Michelins will, but they'll give you the 40,000+ you are looking for and
probably over 50,000 unless you drive more aggressively.
Check out the survey results at:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=ORAT
My experience with both the LTX M/S and the A/T Revo are spot on with what
the survey reflects.
Good traction to ya,
VLJ
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harry
06-11-2005, 12:50 AM
> The OEM skins are lame, I pulled 'em right from the start off the missus'
> Sequoia and off my Tundra D-Cab, sold 'em through the paper to recoup a
> few
> $$$s and put decent rubber on. Being the last line of defense on the
> road,
> I want all the advantage I can get. :-)
>
>
> I'm running the 265/70/R17 on the Sequoia & Tundra without any
> interference
> problems and the LTX M/S comes in that size. See:
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=LTX+M%2FS
Isn't 70 change the diameter of the wheel and therefore the accuracy of
sppedo and mileage? That is my concern.
What's interference problem?
Is it "quiet" on road than Dunlop?
> The LTX M/S tires I run on the Tundra, 265/76/R16 LR-E for running
> loaded/towing (I have both 16 & 17" rims so have two sets of tires),
> already
> have about 30,000 miles on them and given the amount of tread left they'll
> deliver between 60-80,000 mi. total. While a nice long-life tire with
> quiet
> road manners, they leave a little to be desired in the wet and even more
> to
> be desired in the snow.
It seems LTX is the one to go with if no diameter concern...
> Seriously consider the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos:
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+A%2FT+Revo
>
Yes, I read the review. The main complaint is the same as Michelin
CT--shorter tread life!
"harry" <harry_liu@lcc.com> sez:
<snip>
> Isn't 70 change the diameter of the wheel and therefore the accuracy of
> sppedo and mileage? That is my concern.
Not appreciably ... when the Sequoia speedo indicates 75 mph, the GPS on the
dash sez 76.2 mph ...
> What's interference problem?
The tires rubbing on the frame or rubbing against the interior of the
wheelwell splash shield, etc.
> Is it "quiet" on road than Dunlop?
Probably not, given the deeper and more aggresive tread pattern, but they
are quiet enough that I don't notice them at speed. I didn't spend much
time on the Dunlops and the months that I did had the AC going (which is
rather noisy itself in the Sequoia).
<snip>
> Yes, I read the review. The main complaint is the same as Michelin
> CT--shorter tread life!
True, but with the benefit of additional traction. I run very soft, gooey
and $pendy rubber on my street motorcycle that only lasts for about 3,000
mi. for an outlay of around $200 ea. and they stick like glue. You pays
your money to see the show and you takes your chances. A difference of
10-20 ft. stopping distance may mean the difference between successful
evasion or eating a chrome sandwich.
Good ridin'/drivin' to ya,
VLJ
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Ken Shelton
06-11-2005, 10:25 AM
harry wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Time to change my original tires on Sequoia 2004 Limited.
>
> Read a lot of good responses on The Michelin CT or LTX M/S. Unfortunately
> the LTX does not have the right size for Sequoia 265/65/R17 while CT seems
> to have it. Though Michelin rates CT and LTX same tread life, the response
> on Forum does not seem that way. LTX is definitely winning on votes in
> terms of tread life. I really hope not to change tires again in 40,000
> miles.
>
> What other choices do I have?
>
>
Also consider Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza, the on-road quality
equivalent to the excellent Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo. These top
quality Bridgestone tires are nothing like the cheap OEM
Bridgestones some of our trucks had as OEM tires.
Ken