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Oil filter relocation warning!

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#1 ·
I installed an oil filter relocation kit on my 00' 2.7 Tacoma a few weeks ago. After the install I mounted a mechanical oil pressure gauge on the pillar. The pressure gauge was very slow to react to pressure changes. When the engine revved up the pressure would slowly rise. I knew this wasn't normal so I contacted Auto Meter and asked for suggestions. They asked me to cut the oil lines at both ends and reconnect them by very lightly tightening the ferrule nuts so as not to crush the lines by over-tightening. I knew i didn't over-tighten them but I did as they asked anyway. After completing this I found no change in the gauge response. I returned the gauge per Auto meter's instructions and replaced it with a new one. No change in response from the gauge. At this point I decided to remove the Trans-Dapt filter relocation kit to see what, if any, change this would make. Low and behold the gauge response was instantaneous. When RPM'S increased oil pressure increased right along with it.

With the filter relocation kit installed I would rapidly increase engine speed to 3000 RPM and the oil pressure would take about 5 seconds to reach 36 PSI. The engine specs call for a minimum of 36 PSI at 3000 RPM. With the filter kit uninstalled the oil pressure hits 45 PSI before I reach 3000 RPM.

Oil pressure at an idle is 4 PSI higher without the kit. The pressure at a 2000 RPM cruise is 12 PSI higher without the kit....15 PSI higher at 3000 RPM cruise. These figures are with the engine fully warmed up. The wierd thing is when the engine is started cold, the pressure with the kit would max out at 65 PSI while high idling. Without the kit it hits 90 PSI.

I had the filter mounted on the fender well under the hood about 10" above the stock location. I used 1/2" I.D. Good Year insta grip hose (good stuff). Each hose was 27" long with virtually no bends from end to end. I also tried different oil filters which was a waste of money.

Needless to say I will be climbing into the wheel well to change my oil filter from now on.

If you have a remote filter kit on your 2.7L you might want to check your oil pressure with a good mechanical gauge. I don't know for sure wether the slow response and reduced pressure will harm the engine but I"m not comfotable with it.

Best Regards,

Jeff
 
#2 ·
That is a great observation.

One thing to keep in mind when installing any kind of remote filter system is to never install it higher then the stock filter location. When you do all the oil from the lines and possibly the filter will drain back to the pan on shut down. When you restart the pump has to refill all those lines and maybe the filter before your bearings get the first drop of oil. Never a good thing.

Gadget

www.URDUSA.com
 
#3 ·
I agree. Another reason I'm glad I uninstalled mine.

Jeff
Gadget2317 said:
That is a great observation.

One thing to keep in mind when installing any kind of remote filter system is to never install it higher then the stock filter location. When you do all the oil from the lines and possibly the filter will drain back to the pan on shut down. When you restart the pump has to refill all those lines and maybe the filter before your bearings get the first drop of oil. Never a good thing.

Gadget

www.URDUSA.com
 
#4 ·
Gadget2317 said:
When you do all the oil from the lines and possibly the filter will drain back to the pan on shut down. When you restart the pump has to refill all those lines and maybe the filter before your bearings get the first drop of oil.
Thats exactly why I never installed one, I seriously considered when I first got the truck and why I dont use Fram filters (word is the check valves suck-and I had one do just that). If you don't like changing your oil try synthetic you can go longer without changing. Sounds like you blew at least a full day messing around with that, that sucks but thanks for the warning.
 
#5 ·
There is no reason you should not install a remote oil filter system. You just have to install it properly and use a quality unit.

I ran an AMSOIL dual remote (full flow/bypass) filter system and I had more oil pressure post filter then with the stock filter by its self. I also installed it low on the frame rail and I got oil pressure instantly on engine start. It was simply amazing how clean it kept the oil. Even after 18,000 miles of use it looked like the oil was changed yesterday!!

The only reason it is not still on the truck is that I use that truck off road now and it was exposed to off road hazzards.

If you do it, do it right!!

Gadget

www.URDUSA.com
 
#6 ·
Gadget2317 said:
I also installed it low on the frame rail.

The only reason it is not still on the truck is that I use that truck off road now and it was exposed to off road hazzards.
Yeah my truck's ride height is bone stock. I could not find any place to put it except on the frame rail, but then it hung real low. I suppose I could make some kind of skid plate to protect it . I rarely go off-raoding except for the winter I love going through snow, last thing I want to do is rip that off. Once again thanks for the comments Gadget.
 
#8 ·
hey guys, sorry to dig up a really old thread.... but I just changed my oil yesterday and boy, was it a hassle to get changed. I'm considering a oil filter relocation kit for my "new to me" 2002 tacoma v6.

any suggestions?!?!
 
#9 · (Edited)
In my opinion, you would be better off switching to a high quality synthetic and increasing your oil change interval. If you feel guilty after 5000 miles, change your filter (without dropping the oil) and top the oil level up. 10,000 miles is not asking too much from today's synthetics. The only caveat is if the majority of your driving is short trips. Say, less than 10 - 15 miles.

Removing the skid plate is a bit of a hassle, but it only adds five minutes or so to my oil changes. It's a great opportunity to give the bottom of the engine a good inspection at the same time.

Also, if you don't feel the need for it, you could always leave the skid plate off. It doesn't have to be there.

ps- I happened to check out your website, and noticed an Aussie. What a great looking dog! We have two, both rescues. We love'em!

Best wishes with the third trimester and beyond!
 
#10 ·
Since we're on the topic again, I was wondering how the remote filter setup on stock 2005+ Tacoma V6's is set up because the filter is located at the top of the engine. Anyone?
 
#12 ·
That's what I am saying. If I remember correctly, the stock oil filter location actually has hoses that run down to the side of the block, effectively making it a remote oil filter setup. Correct me if I'm wrong. This is just what I remember from when I checked out the new '05 models back in 2005. I was just wondering how it was setup.